God exists, but not the way most people want it to, or recognize.

a reply to: socialmediaclown

That's right, you don't hear things in places you're not present.

a reply to: Untun

Let's say that you are present but you have no ears. Is there a sound?

a reply to: socialmediaclown

Depends on whether there is a sound to hear. When there is a sound and you don't have ears to hear it you don't hear the sound that is there.

a reply to: Untun

How do you know there is a sound if you don't have ears to hear it?

a reply to: socialmediaclown

For those occasions you can use a decibel meter.

a reply to: Untun

Does a decibel meter hear sound? Or does it measure vibration.

a reply to: socialmediaclown

A decibel meter uses a microphone to capture sound. It measures sound loudness so when there is output on your decibel meter it measured sound.

a reply to: Untun

A decibel is a unit used to measure the intensity of a sound. What is actually measured is the wave. The meter picks up the vibration the same way you could pick up the vibration if you placed your hand on the ground. Vibration can be translated to sound however, it first needs something to create the sound. AKA your ears. Without ears, you can still pick up the vibration of the motion. Just as the meter can. But to hear the actual sound, you need to be able to hear. You need your auditory perception. Otherwise, it's simply vibration.

a reply to: Untun


the Creator God or even Trinity Deity did not rest after forming man the Creator went on to Create Panspermia now 'Thats' being inclusive and 'woke'

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a reply to: socialmediaclown

The point is, without ears you do not hear the sound that is there.

a reply to: Untun

Right. Without ears you do not hear sound. This is how our ears translate sound btw:

"The sound waves enter the inner ear and then into the cochlea, a snail-shaped organ. The cochlea is filled with a fluid that moves in response to the vibrations from the oval window. As the fluid moves, 25,000 nerve endings are set into motion. These nerve endings transform the vibrations into electrical impulses that then travel along the eighth cranial nerve (auditory nerve) to the brain.

The brain then interprets these signals, and this is how we hear."
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So if you're not able to perceive sound then how do you know sound exists?
The only thing you would have awareness of is vibration.

a reply to: socialmediaclown

You're saying sound does not exist? I don't agree.

a reply to: Untun

That's not what I'm saying. Obviously sound exists for us because you have ears to hear it. So do I and most others on this planet. However, if no one in this world had ears or any other sensory perception with the ability to interpret that vibration then, no, sound would not exist. Without auditory senses we would have zero awareness of its existence. We would only be aware of it in it's vibratory state. We wouldn't know to call it "sound" because we would have no experience of sound. We would have no knowledge of ears or hearing. Without a point of reference there would be nothing to perceive. Nothing to describe. Sound would be something you don't know that you don't know. It's possible that some humans might have an intuitive sense of sound but it would exist in theory, only.

a reply to: socialmediaclown

So back to your question, do trees make a sound when they fall?

a reply to: Untun

Trees make a sound when they fall because we have the means to measure that sound through our observation. If we did not have the proper components in our brains to interpret that signal then there would be no sound. Perception is everything. Without our senses, this world would cease to exist as we know it.

This thread is a solipsistic nightmare. Please don't do the tree thing.

Does lightning still create thunder without ears to hear the pressure wave?

Does sound exist without an acoustic medium to travel through, like an atmosphere?

Human senses exist as a way to avoid getting hit by the falling tree. I really can't imagine a complex biological specimen that could survive without senses.

They aren't really part of the equation of acoustics.

You can still levitate an object with harmonics, even if you have noise cancelling earphones on. You hearing the wave does not make it exist, because it's not exactly an uncollapsed thing.

And things in atmospheres made waves long before there were sensory organs there to hear it, but the sensory organs may have evolved because there are atmospheric pressure variances to detect.

a reply to: Degradation33

I did not state that without our senses the world would cease to exist, altogether. I stated that without our senses, the world would cease to exist *as we know it*. Energy waves, photons and other massless particles don't require our interpretation to exist. Something would still be in existence but it would be something very different from the reality that we see, hear, taste, touch and smell.

This 3D space is analogous to the 2D screen of your electronic device and the physical objects in it are icons. Your senses act as a biological user interface between your brain and the outside world. Your neurons translate symbols rather than the actual fabric of reality that serves as the backdrop for the world that we experience.

a reply to: socialmediaclown

That's right, all things we don't have the senses or equipment for to measure still do exist.

So what are the "stats" / "specs" of God ?

we know God "was , is and will be" just from the name Yahweh,
Yahweh also means "He Who Makes That Which Has Been Made" , "He Brings Into Existence Whatever Exists"
we also know God is omniscient (all-knowing), omnipresent (everywhere), omnipotent (all-powerful)

what else do we know about God ?

a reply to: Untun

Not in the way that you perceive. Therefore, this world, as we know it and experience it, exists because of our observation of it.