Is Madonna a "Recovering Catholic"?

I have never been Roman Catholic myself, so I am not speaking from personal experience.

But I've heard people I've spoken to personally refer to themselves as a recovering Catholic. My understanding for the reason for using such an expression is that children, while growing up being raised in a Roman Catholic household and being disciplined by nuns at Catholic school and being traumatized by the fear of dying and eternal damnation, once reaching adulthood psychoanalyze themselves and say to themselves, "I have to put this behind me."

I remember what Madonna was like when she was interviewed in the early days. She seemed perfectly normal.

But she's anything but normal now.

I wonder whether the Satanism she portrays now has anything to do with her Catholic upbringing? Did she go from one extreme to the other?

a reply to: DevotedResearcher

In what way do you think Catholics are extreme?

a reply to: underpass61

Did you read my post?

If you did, please try again!

a reply to: DevotedResearcher

You really should go to a couple catholic masses. The structure, repetition, responses, actions, and verbiage is pretty awakening for those who have never witnessed it. Yes the nuns can be mean bitches. Called nuns because they get none. And not getting any can make a person bitchy. Imagine how silly they all feel meeting St. Peter at the gate and having him smile, shake his head, and tell each one of them "it was supposed to be 'celebrate', not 'celibate'."

some are very happy with that structure, and some not so much. But regardless, it's good to get the context.

a reply to: DevotedResearcher

She's does practice and study the Kabbalah (Hebrew, not Christian).

originally posted by: DevotedResearcher
I have never been Roman Catholic myself, so I am not speaking from personal experience.

But I've heard people I've spoken to personally refer to themselves as a recovering Catholic. My understanding for the reason for using such an expression is that children, while growing up being raised in a Roman Catholic household and being disciplined by nuns at Catholic school and being traumatized by the fear of dying and eternal damnation, once reaching adulthood psychoanalyze themselves and say to themselves, "I have to put this behind me."

I remember what Madonna was like when she was interviewed in the early days. She seemed perfectly normal.

But she's anything but normal now.

I wonder whether the Satanism she portrays now has anything to do with her Catholic upbringing? Did she go from one extreme to the other?

The answer to your question more than likely revolves around money. Too much money ruins people because you can only buy so much happiness before the misery destroys you.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: DevotedResearcher

You really should go to a couple catholic masses. The structure, repetition, responses, actions, and verbiage is pretty awakening for those who have never witnessed it.

I remember talking to someone at work many years ago who casually said to me, "I like ritual." I was impressed with that sincere statement.

originally posted by: DevotedResearcher

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: DevotedResearcher

You really should go to a couple catholic masses. The structure, repetition, responses, actions, and verbiage is pretty awakening for those who have never witnessed it.

I remember talking to someone at work many years ago who casually said to me, "I like ritual." I was impressed with that sincere statement.

LOL, as I said, if you witness it, with those thoughts in mind, you will walk away with a unique perspective.

a reply to: mysterioustranger

What little bit I've read about that twists my brain into knots.

I don't know if that's why she's rebelling against the 'establishment' or not. My guess is she's being used as a tool to further the SG agenda without even knowing it. Stars are the 'woke-est' of us all, it seems.

Hell fire and damnation was the preaching method for decades, and it's been my experience that a lot of people in their 80's and above who were raised in a strict religious setting have a terrible fear of death.

During the 60's I saw the hippie era rebel against fear-driven agenda of control via religion. They didn't want a 'mean' God, and church membership began to sharply decline.....along with their bottom $$$$.

The churches have adapted to become more inclusive, and now most anything goes. You no longer get told you're a sinner if you have piercings, tattoos, or wear work clothes to church on Sunday. Women no longer get turned away for wearing pants to church, and even the gender issue has become a nonissue in the eyes of the church.

That leaves to to puzzle over who's really running the show; God, or man?

If the churches have to keep turning a blind eye to woke-ism to keep their doors open, I think it's fair to say the entirety has also been highjacked to direct society down whatever path our world planners want us on, and Madonna is just another asset to be used up and eventually discarded when no longer useful.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: DevotedResearcher
I have never been Roman Catholic myself, so I am not speaking from personal experience.

But I've heard people I've spoken to personally refer to themselves as a recovering Catholic. My understanding for the reason for using such an expression is that children, while growing up being raised in a Roman Catholic household and being disciplined by nuns at Catholic school and being traumatized by the fear of dying and eternal damnation, once reaching adulthood psychoanalyze themselves and say to themselves, "I have to put this behind me."

I remember what Madonna was like when she was interviewed in the early days. She seemed perfectly normal.

But she's anything but normal now.

I wonder whether the Satanism she portrays now has anything to do with her Catholic upbringing? Did she go from one extreme to the other?

The answer to your question more than likely revolves around money. Too much money ruins people because you can only buy so much happiness before the misery destroys you.

I have seen the business side of religion being a computer repair guy, and it was enough to make me not interested in organized religion for that reason. I get the operating expenses and all, but the money perverts the entire idea of religion existing to nourish the soul. It seems to exist to make sure there is a place for the 10% to go. (if you don't know, you better axe somebody)

a reply to: DevotedResearcher

Like politics the farther you go up the ladder, the more corrupt and disgusting things get. I still like what the church does on the community level it's the hierarchy that I have issues with.

a reply to: DevotedResearcher
According to Wiki,she was raised a catholic.
And has dabbled/appropriated/jumped on the bandwagon of many religions..

en.wikipedia.org...

Always thought her religion was money and fame through attempting to shock,but maybe thats just my cynical nature.

After 12 years of private Catholic school I no longer went to church or are part of organized religion. I never have called or considered myself a recovering Catholic though. And yes, there was physical and verbal abuse. Although I was not aware at the time there was sexual abuse by one of the Preists who when it finally came out, was just moved to another parish. One school mate who struggled with depression did commit suicide years later, and not speaking up for a friend of his that had been abused was frequently a topic of guilt he spoke of often.

Besides the constant claim we were going to hell for various reasons, the abuse, one thing really comes to mind even now. The forced watching of a movie against abortion when I was 10. They showed buckets of fetuses, etc. I always felt that was so wrong to do. At 10 we had no clue about that stuff. It made me angry they did that to us girls.

As for why you didn't say anything about it, or if you did, parents really didn't do anything. I come from at the time(they've become more liberal now) a conservative Italian family. It was common to have a priest or nun in the family and children were to always respect their elders and behave. I can say, I guess because we were forced basically that I did get a good education and got college scholarships easily.

My experience is pretty common from what I've seen online. I do not know if this is still common. I sent my daughters to public school. We do not attend church.

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: DevotedResearcher

I still like what the church does on the community level it's the hierarchy that I have issues with.

Me too.

When there are claims to authority, watch out.

originally posted by: Silcone Synapse
a reply to: DevotedResearcher
Always thought her religion was money and fame through attempting to shock,but maybe thats just my cynical nature.

Maybe more than one thing has motivated and then controlled her.

originally posted by: DevotedResearcher

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: DevotedResearcher

I still like what the church does on the community level it's the hierarchy that I have issues with.

Me too.

When there are claims to authority, watch out.

I'm fine with my donations going to house, feed, and council the local homeless/drug addicts or single moms - buying the pope a new gold-plated Popemobile not so much.

a reply to: DevotedResearcher

Is Madonna a "Recovering Catholic"?

Yes.

Religion Was Heavily Imposed On Her
Madonna’s parents were both devout Christians, and during an interview with People, she went so far as to call her mother a “religious zealot”. She declared that her parents took religion so seriously that it truly became their mandatory lifestyle and not just a belief system to aim towards. Religion was forced upon her, and living a life that was right by the rules of the church was insisted upon.

She Was Visited By Priests And Nuns
During her interview with People she went on to say that her “home was frequented by nuns and priests”, all of which were close family friends of her parents. Imagine how hard it would be to be growing up as a child in a home that was so rigidly enforcing religion that prominent religious figures regularly attended family dinners. It must have been strange for her to have priests and nuns casually spending time in her home, and essentially watching her every move.

She Rejected Religion
Without her mother to impose religion upon her, and feeling betrayed by her father for his new relationship, there was nobody that was able to keep Madonna aligned with her religion. She stopped going to church and was quick to publicly make blasphemous comments. Anything to do with the church was rejected, and she remained dedicated to her newfound rebellious attitude.

www.thetalko.com...

The churches have adapted to become more inclusive, and now most anything goes. You no longer get told you're a sinner if you have piercings, tattoos, or wear work clothes to church on Sunday. Women no longer get turned away for wearing pants to church, and even the gender issue has become a nonissue in the eyes of the church. Text

I do not belong to any church due to the above reasons and more issues....
The last church I attended the female pastor baptized a lesbian. Prior to the baptism I spoke with the pastor and was told to shut up. Her eyes were full of hate.

Protestant churches in Stuttgart Germany are run by women pastors.

1 Corinthians 14:34 - 33.For God is not a God of disorder, but of peace—as in all the churches of the saints. 34. Women are to be silent in the churches. They are not permitted to speak, but must be in submission, as the law says. 35.If they wish to inquire about something, they are to ask their own husbands at home; for it is dishonorable for a woman to speak in the church.…

a reply to: nugget1

With that new, bow wow face of hers, she worships the devil. I've read about her performances. You'll never convince me otherwise.