Eighteen to twenty two million left in the Ukraine.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

The US are playing the long game

Who has the resources and time in this long game? is that the EU and US?


Europe’s Rush For Gas Is Starving The Supply To Developing Nations

a reply to: vNex92

Obviously his popularity is because he didn't flee from the war. People don't care much about his other policies as long as this continues.

The price for Ukraine's independence was for Ukraine to be neutral on Russia's borders.

Why would it be neutral?

That was awesome.
Especially the part about Soros.
I will have to look into Redacted now.
It looks like a news source that can be trusted if they are spilling big truths like this.
Ty ty ty for bringing to light a news source that might not be as corrupted as all those that Hide Soros activities and cover them up.
Thank you very much for pointing to this source.
I easily would have just glossed over this source and read through the thread quickly but you sold me good.
I think it's time that Zelensky just drop all the info and data he has on the Biden administration and end this blackmailing and extortion racket.
Doesn't he have a Russian TV show to get back to?
He is a good actor/ comedian though.
Do you think this is a role he is playing NOW?
Like a bond villain.....master extortionist?

originally posted by: BigfootNZ
a reply to: anonentity

Ah yes, Redacted... run by an ex Fox 'News' anchor and real estate investor. Running on the tried an true 'truther' type bs that brings in the crayzies...

They want to set the record straight and bring you the stories nobody else is telling. Along with the facts and the full picture, Redacted offers real-world analysis without an agency driven by corporate overloads. With Clayton’s extensive journalism experience, he isn’t afraid to demand the truth from authorities. Redacted is an independent platform, unencumbered by external factors or restrictive policies, on which Clayton and Natali Morris bring you quality information, balanced reporting, constructive debate, and thoughtful narratives.

Why not just post stuff straight from ruZZian state media outlets? lol 'balanced reporting' followed by 'thoughtful narratives'... information shouldnt have any narrative.

Their analyst in that video Douglas Macgregor was also, for the Iraq War, seems to think NATO is pointless and that the 'cold war ended 27 years ago' so hes clearly ruZZian leaning in terms of what he thinks of them as a threat, dislikes immigration and has said Soros is funding immigration to destroy American culture, calls Muslim immigrants in Europe 'unwanted invaders', is all for ruZZia annexing the Donbas and is pro ruZZia in the current war. Is anti Semitic and called black people an 'underclass'...

So... yeah.

Actually it is most probable that after NATO falls apart and has to be rebuilt from scratch Russia will be so politically strong after this they will probably lead the NATO alliance.
The dirt Zelensky has on the West to be able to extort so much, and so many, must be very great.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: Riouz5
a reply to: BigfootNZ
Russia will succeed with their Objectives,its inevitable.

lol… best case scenario for Russia is they take a small chunk of eastern Ukraine… that’s best case scenario.

Mean while NATO will advance even further to there doorstep, to the point they can barely breath. Ukraine will slowly become apart of NATO and be provided with some of the most high tech military equipment available and Russia will continue to be isolated and eventually become an even more impoverished country than it already is.

Congratulations to Russia, they’ve shot themselves in the foot!

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: all2human
a reply to: IAMTAT

I don't expect Russia will replay it's disaster as before
but more a slow moving scotched earth strategy.
Ukraine doesn't have the numbers,unless NATO countries offer boots
Jets or Tanks are not enough.

A slow grind.

Not shock and awe.

This is, incidentally, how Russia has always fought wars.

Everyone who believed the "They expected to win in a week!" narrative is gullible and ignorant of history.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Thrumbo

No offense, but you have no room to talk. You're very bias towards Russia and I have never seen any of your posts criticize Russia for invading a soveign nation and starting this whole mess. I have only seen you defend Russia.

So really.. you have no room to point fingers at people are bias and one-sided.

a reply to: anonentity

yeah, russia is killing ukraine troops
faster than they can train them

only problem is
they are BREEDING NAZI's faster
than russia is willing to kill THEM
even at their 1000 troop per day average


MOZART GROUP (navy seal team 6ers)
taking 80%+ casualty rate, is
A CRAPPY TRIBUTE COVER BAND,....for WAGNER

getting such a bad name they are re-branding
AND EXPANDING so soon itll be
WE ONLY LOSE 10,000 UKRAINIAN TROOPS PER DAY
80%, and seals use what? 5-man teams?

so,... thats 1 (one) survivor, PROBLY SURRENDERED
wagner let HIM go, to go spread the word

and MOZART laid their fiddles on the ground
at WAGNERS FEET because they knew that they been BEAT
send more troops back if you ever wanna try again.
cause WAGNERS THE BEST THERE:S EVER BEEN


as they pull back the iron curtain
they will find a wall of lead,
as fire rains down upon their head..
count to 3 you'll all be DEAD
and your fields are all stained red
mozart took the cash and fled
cause all the seals have holes that bled
---russian nursery rhymes---


between mozart training ukraine army,
babcock making challenger2 tanks
poland training tank crews from guy that launched
anti tank missile EXPANDING HIS OFFICE.
uk training their anti-air brigades to bring down buildings

and the HERO OF UKRAINE, SAVED KIEV FROM RUSSIA
found with 2 bullets in his head,
dumped in ditch, and left for dead
BY UKRAINES VERY OWN SBU (cia)
gave him a medal

thats the BEST ukraine troops have to look foreward to
AND A COMEDIAN FOR PRESIDENT

originally posted by: Nevercompromise
That was awesome.
Especially the part about Soros.
I will have to look into Redacted now.
It looks like a news source that can be trusted if they are spilling big truths like this.

Redacted never said anything about Soros... the guy they were interviewing in the Video for his opinion on the Urkaine war said the stuff about Soros in the past, elsewhere, it was an example of the mindset and angle of views the guest and type of guests they have on... guess you ignored the bit about him being anti immigrant, anti semitic, racist and anti women in the military... or where they just extra gravy for you after seeing the word 'Soros'? Most of the 'Soros is the debil' crowd tend to have similar views on a big range of things... even if mostly in private.

Do you people ever actually read or simply skim through something for keywords to latch onto for opinion confirmation bias?

Love how for some Soros is this big world manipulating guy with fingers in every pie controlling governments actions the world over... yet there isnt any real proof of any of the things his names thrown onto nor any real big push with anything he throws money at.

He's like the boogeymen man under the bed for Conspiracy folks, stubbed your toe...Soros did it, Wife left you, Soros funded it. Kids being to noisy, Soros gave them money to annoy you. All he is to me is some rich guy I dont even give to damns about to be honest.

Your post came across as misguided sarcasm anyway... my initial post was nothing but pointing out the bias and extreme slant of the channel and the interviewed guest, and to take what they say about the subject with a giant boulder of salt.

Aaaargie is it you??

originally posted by: BigfootNZ

originally posted by: Nevercompromise
That was awesome.
Especially the part about Soros.
I will have to look into Redacted now.
It looks like a news source that can be trusted if they are spilling big truths like this.

Redacted never said anything about Soros... the guy they were interviewing in the Video for his opinion on the Urkaine war said the stuff about Soros in the past, elsewhere, it was an example of the mindset and angle of views the guest and type of guests they have on... guess you ignored the bit about him being anti immigrant, anti semitic, racist and anti women in the military... or where they just extra gravy for you after seeing the word 'Soros'? Most of the 'Soros is the debil' crowd tend to have similar views on a big range of things... even if mostly in private.

Do you people ever actually read or simply skim through something for keywords to latch onto for opinion confirmation bias?

Love how for some Soros is this big world manipulating guy with fingers in every pie controlling governments actions the world over... yet there isnt any real proof of any of the things his names thrown onto nor any real big push with anything he throws money at.

He's like the boogeymen man under the bed for Conspiracy folks, stubbed your toe...Soros did it, Wife left you, Soros funded it. Kids being to noisy, Soros gave them money to annoy you. All he is to me is some rich guy I dont even give to damns about to be honest.

Your post came across as misguided sarcasm anyway... my initial post was nothing but pointing out the bias and extreme slant of the channel and the interviewed guest, and to take what they say about the subject with a giant boulder of salt.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

The US are playing the long game

Who has the resources and time in this long game? is that the EU and US?


Europe’s Rush For Gas Is Starving The Supply To Developing Nations

I have absolutely no idea what kind of point your trying to make with that link dude.

But I will say that if you are some how trying to insinuate that Russia has any kind of chance of going toe to toe with the US, then you are just beyond delusional.

… just sayin.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

The US are playing the long game

Who has the resources and time in this long game? is that the EU and US?


Europe’s Rush For Gas Is Starving The Supply To Developing Nations

I have absolutely no idea what kind of point your trying to make with that link dude.

But I will say that if you are some how trying to insinuate that Russia has any kind of chance of going toe to toe with the US, then you are just beyond delusional.

… just sayin.

Really, when did the US become this successful war machine? Who did they beat over the last 75 yrs? Grenada? They are great at bombing helpless countries, safe in the knowledge that geography saves them from war on their own soil. Though even then once the troops go in the generally lose. There's a reason they won't directly fight any country that can reasonably fight back.

They outproduced the Japanese by depriving them of resources nearly 80 yrs ago, give them their dues there. US soldiers fought very bravely (although the Soviets eventually caused the Emperor to sh1t himself and run to the US as fast as he could to surrender).

They just lost a 20yr war to a bunch of peasants hiding in caves. After 20yrs these peasants controlled more of Afghanistan than when the war started.

Thinking anyone is going to beat Russia in a ground war on their own border is delusional. This will be the end of NATO eventually. No doubt countries are looking for a way out right now. Europe won't recover while the US is yanking their chain. Their eventual recovery will involve the east. After the US becomes just a middling regional power and the 80% of the world that isn't the "west" finds a way out of the economic system the US has controlled since WW2.

By the way, Ned didn't utter those words either. That's also a tall story.

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: JinMI

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

lol… best case scenario for Russia is they take a small chunk of eastern Ukraine… that’s best case scenario.

...what do you think russias goal actually is?

To get NATO of there door step… do you seriously think they’ll succeed?

At this rate, yea.

You seriously believe the US is just going to give up and give Russia whatever they want?

Yeah nah, they have a plan and the resources to just sit back and play the long game… just watch Russia (Putin) have there little tantrum until they eventually run out of steam… lol.

I did hear that the Russians ran out of supplies, equipment and ammo around April last year. From many people who seemed quite certain. When the troops also deserted and all ran home to momma or something.

Strange that they are grinding Ukraine into dust slowly but surely, given this.

a reply to: anonentity

I had seen vids from Ukrainian telegram channels that Ukraine is now using 16 year olds into the service.

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Mwahaha.
How can you say my post looked like "misguided sarcasm" when it is clear from your post it landed right where I directed it.
You being an apologist for Soros is just a delicious icing on the cake assuring me my sarcasm was laser focused and fell exactly where it was intended.
I would not trust your views on anything important geopolitical unless you have insights as to whether Macrons wife is well endowed with both length and girth.


Ty for reminding me to look into "redacted".
Sorry for the sarcasm but sometimes someone posts something with so much slant that sarcasm is the only way to get solid footing.
It is important not to exceed 10% grade otherwise if you extend past that you cannot tow any weight effectively without it sliding back.

Mwahaha @ my post being sarcastic.....duh!quote]originally posted by: AcerM
Aaaargie is it you??

originally posted by: BigfootNZ

originally posted by: Nevercompromise
That was awesome.
Especially the part about Soros.
I will have to look into Redacted now.
It looks like a news source that can be trusted if they are spilling big truths like this.

Redacted never said anything about Soros... the guy they were interviewing in the Video for his opinion on the Urkaine war said the stuff about Soros in the past, elsewhere, it was an example of the mindset and angle of views the guest and type of guests they have on... guess you ignored the bit about him being anti immigrant, anti semitic, racist and anti women in the military... or where they just extra gravy for you after seeing the word 'Soros'? Most of the 'Soros is the debil' crowd tend to have similar views on a big range of things... even if mostly in private.

Do you people ever actually read or simply skim through something for keywords to latch onto for opinion confirmation bias?

Love how for some Soros is this big world manipulating guy with fingers in every pie controlling governments actions the world over... yet there isnt any real proof of any of the things his names thrown onto nor any real big push with anything he throws money at.

He's like the boogeymen man under the bed for Conspiracy folks, stubbed your toe...Soros did it, Wife left you, Soros funded it. Kids being to noisy, Soros gave them money to annoy you. All he is to me is some rich guy I dont even give to damns about to be honest.

Your post came across as misguided sarcasm anyway... my initial post was nothing but pointing out the bias and extreme slant of the channel and the interviewed guest, and to take what they say about the subject with a giant boulder of salt.

The part that is going to really put a twist in your panties is where you find out that Russian military is working with the controlling faction of US military to destroy the last holdout of the satanic Nazi death cult that is at the heart of the UN and their intended stronghold in Ukraine.
I give Ukraine weeks to months at best.
If the tanks are not in place with trained operators before the ground thaws then tanks are worthless against a Russian army already positioned.
The talk of tanks is only a media rallying cry.

Russia owns Ukraine now and Soros has no home.
FTX is money laundering and about to blow up politics.
Terrorists they are

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Subaeruginosa

The US are playing the long game

Who has the resources and time in this long game? is that the EU and US?


Europe’s Rush For Gas Is Starving The Supply To Developing Nations

I have absolutely no idea what kind of point your trying to make with that link dude.

But I will say that if you are some how trying to insinuate that Russia has any kind of chance of going toe to toe with the US, then you are just beyond delusional.

… just sayin.

originally posted by: Nevercompromise
Actually it is most probable that after NATO falls apart and has to be rebuilt from scratch Russia will be so politically strong after this they will probably lead the NATO alliance.
The dirt Zelensky has on the West to be able to extort so much, and so many, must be very great.

That Post caught me off guard!!
US is definitely abandoning the Ukraine, because the RAND corporation says so.
I don't know what Europe will do.

Ukraine is running out of manpower and scrapping written off tanks isn't really going to help them, it will just cost more lives....
The West has lost the African continent (Lavrov was welcomed there last week, several African countries kicked the French out, no african country joined the antirussian sanctions), the West doesn't control India, China or Russia.
The last I heard was that approx 40 countries followed the sanctions, 140 didn't.

Combine this knowledge with the fact that Russia is producing ammo 24/7 and the west needs years to stock up, Poland has already stated they want to have west Ukraine, and the EU has more and more in-fighting....


I think a lot will change in the next couple of years, but Russia leading the NATO (or the current NATO nations), is an interesting thought.

I'm not sure what will happen, but the last I heard from Russia, is that the West has broken so many agreements, laws and treaties, that Russia will not trust a word they say....
So what is Russia's current goal?
It used to be: protect our citizens and get NATO off our doorstep!

I think that has changed.


Oh BTW

And when will China make a move?
Or have they already started causing accidents in the USA....

WW3 has been going on for years....

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: BigfootNZ

The living embodiment of cognitive dissonance.

The opposite of denying ignorance.

You've once again outdone yourself even with your atrocious spelling.

Late reply. i didn't bother to much reading any replies on the first 2 pages when i posted this back then since i knew what was most assuredly coming, and it seems i wont be disappointed.

How was I denying ignorance? I looked up information about the YT channel, the person interviewing, the person being interviewed and found the information about them to indicate a giant bias towards one end leading to me questioning the veracity of the videos content... I took steps to remove my ignorance, ignorance of the people giving the information your side claim or support as telling the truth.

How can my spelling me atrocious when i use fire foxes autocorrect on everything... I just ran my post through again and found I ignored using an ' on shouldn't and didn't bother to auto correct 'crazy's'. Why would spelling matter anyway as long as its decently legible.

So your argument against what I posted came down to basically.... 'you misspelled a word so your wrong'. I mean that is some low level internet-fu there buddy.

originally posted by: nugget1
Is all of NZ living in liberal la la land?

The US-I mean Ukraine-isn't fighting a few million radicals with suicide vests machetes; they're up against fighter planes, tanks and missiles.

I don't see the US as being viewed in a favorable light on the world stage anymore; more like countries are backed into a corner of coerced cooperation. That tide can turn rather quickly.

When/if NATO gets involved every stupid liberal idiot on the planet will be screaming for their mama's, and it will be too late for the peace talks Biden has fought against from day one.

When did the word 'liberal' become a bad thing? I know its mostly just an American Rightwing thing to use the word that way but it is quite a confusing thing to see people use a wholly positive word in a constant negative light... what is bad about being liberal in thought and action? Especially from a side like say the Conservatives and Rightwing around the world where they have this supposedly patriotic boner for 'Freedoms', isnt liberalism the entire ethos of the 'Freedoms'?.

Oh right, the Rights definition of freedoms is 'Im free to do what i want, you how ever aren't'. Which is oddly what they say the 'liberal' Left is about.

NATO wont need to get involved as long as they and the West continue the support Ukraine needs against their attacker, I just find it bizarre that somehow supporting someone in a fight, means you condone the fight... especially when such words come from people who are either advocating Ukraine simply roll over and give up their land and or freedoms/existence for 'peace' or people who are all for the actions of the attacker, ie ruZZia. 'Yeah that guy just punched you and demanded all your money in your pockets, but dude just give it to him... we gotta have peace here', 'You do have money in your pocket, and he's bigger than you, so give it to him its only right'... No, simply no.