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originally posted by: karl 12
originally posted by: nugget1
The bottom line always comes back to the same place; follow the money.
Don't about about this specific thread subject but the Canadian government are quietly involved in all sorts of insane plans for humanity - this Canadian government document is well worth a read and also involves 'Policy Horizons Canada' and the WEF.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: The2Billies
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: nugget1
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: nugget1
I wonder what effect the vaccine has on donated organs?
I've always been an organ donor, but recent events have given me reason to rethink my choice. The medical field has turned into as big of a corrupt monster as the political field, and we all continue to feed the machine thinking we're making a positive difference.
So then with that I have a question for addressing OP's premise.
If government has a clandestine evil plot to allow us to do away with ourselves for any reason, to harvest organs (for whom?) (who gets these organs now?) - let's say gov't agrees to let mentally ill people do away with themselves if they just don't want to do life any more - why would they taint the organs with the evil mRNA vaccines that would otherwise render the organs damaged and/or useless? There's two conspiracy theories rolled up in one, so what is government's end goal?
I honestly don't know. What I DO know is there's a hell of a lot of money to be made vis transplanting organs whether they end up only working for a week due to clotting or whatever.
As long as the money machine keeps turning the outcome is an afterthought.
We're told the vaccine will save lives to this day, even though the evidence is beginning to show just the opposite.
The bottom line always comes back to the same place; follow the money.
I followed the money and the Canadian government is paying the bill for all organ donations as well as the organ transplant operation, so the buck stopped there.
How much money do they save in the long run? The old, the infirm, the depressed, the disabled, even healthy disabled, those with a mental illness (even under control with medication) - are all eligible for euthanasia in Canada now. The very people most likely to be a drain on tax money, and receiving care from the government.
Killing them means they no longer have to pay to care for or have any sort of compassion for "useless eaters".
It is a huge boon to the finances of the Canadian government. A win/win for the elite political class who get filthy rich off of just being politicians. They get rid of having to pay for any sort of care or compassion for what they consider the useless tics of humanity sucking resources, or those elderly who have worn out their bodies in service to society - and turn it into a net financial gain for the nation by not having to care for them when killing them is much cheaper.
Well, government is still holding out on allowing severely sufferering mentally ill people access to assisted dying, these people still have to kill themselves and that is a hit or miss thing.
As for the $ saved, you would also have to subtract what the gov't would otherwise collect in taxes from these useless eating consumers who also employ many people in their care who also generate tax dollars.
Does the buck also stop there?
Entire Human Body Including All Organs, Bones, Muscles, Ligaments, Etc: $45,000,000 That’s right. $45 million. That is assuming that all organs and parts can be successfully harvested.
originally posted by: The2Billies
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: The2Billies
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: nugget1
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: nugget1
I wonder what effect the vaccine has on donated organs?
I've always been an organ donor, but recent events have given me reason to rethink my choice. The medical field has turned into as big of a corrupt monster as the political field, and we all continue to feed the machine thinking we're making a positive difference.
So then with that I have a question for addressing OP's premise.
If government has a clandestine evil plot to allow us to do away with ourselves for any reason, to harvest organs (for whom?) (who gets these organs now?) - let's say gov't agrees to let mentally ill people do away with themselves if they just don't want to do life any more - why would they taint the organs with the evil mRNA vaccines that would otherwise render the organs damaged and/or useless? There's two conspiracy theories rolled up in one, so what is government's end goal?
I honestly don't know. What I DO know is there's a hell of a lot of money to be made vis transplanting organs whether they end up only working for a week due to clotting or whatever.
As long as the money machine keeps turning the outcome is an afterthought.
We're told the vaccine will save lives to this day, even though the evidence is beginning to show just the opposite.
The bottom line always comes back to the same place; follow the money.
I followed the money and the Canadian government is paying the bill for all organ donations as well as the organ transplant operation, so the buck stopped there.
How much money do they save in the long run? The old, the infirm, the depressed, the disabled, even healthy disabled, those with a mental illness (even under control with medication) - are all eligible for euthanasia in Canada now. The very people most likely to be a drain on tax money, and receiving care from the government.
Killing them means they no longer have to pay to care for or have any sort of compassion for "useless eaters".
It is a huge boon to the finances of the Canadian government. A win/win for the elite political class who get filthy rich off of just being politicians. They get rid of having to pay for any sort of care or compassion for what they consider the useless tics of humanity sucking resources, or those elderly who have worn out their bodies in service to society - and turn it into a net financial gain for the nation by not having to care for them when killing them is much cheaper.
Well, government is still holding out on allowing severely sufferering mentally ill people access to assisted dying, these people still have to kill themselves and that is a hit or miss thing.
As for the $ saved, you would also have to subtract what the gov't would otherwise collect in taxes from these useless eating consumers who also employ many people in their care who also generate tax dollars.
Does the buck also stop there?
Most of the caretakers of the useless eaters are paid for by the government through various programs, or at least pay the majority of the expense of having a caretaker.
Canada is supposed to pay far more in health care for individuals, for free, than the US. Medicare pays for many home health services. I know I was just with my Mother's PT person who comes to her house. It also pays a portion of many home health services. My aunt had her nursing home fully paid for when she was declared eligible for hospice. I would assume that Canada's healthcare system pays for much more than the US and doesn't charge the person receiving care.
I just looked it up Canada pays for the vast majority of nursing home expenses with residents paying a small co-pay. hillnotes.ca...
Canada pays out $5billion a year for mental healthcare for citizens.
journals.sagepub.com...
Provinces pay for home support workers for the people who need it in their homes.
www.cbc.ca...
Canada pays for a wide range of support and care for people who are disabled.
www.ontario.ca...
So Canada would save BILLIONS by euthanizing as many as possible.
But what if we don't break it all the way down? What if we look at the market value of the organs and complex molecules that make up the body? Well, Di Justo calculates that your lungs are worth $58,200 each, that your heart will fetch $57,000, and your kidneys are good for another $91,400. But even more valuable than organs are the body's fluids, tissues, and proteins. Your liver has a market value of $54,100, but it's also the source of a bit more than 22 grams of transferrin, which the body uses to process iron, at $18,900 per gram, or a total of $419,920.20, or more than seven times the value of the organ itself. Your DNA, Di Justo says, will fetch more than $9 million, while your bone marrow, your most valuable possession, is worth $23 million all by itself. Your total market value: $45,618,575.82. That's a big improvement on a buck ninety-eight. I have to say that it gives me an odd feeling of satisfaction to know that I walk around in a sort of mobile bioproduction facility that's turning out such a splendid array of products, even though I don't foresee cashing in on them. But, truth be told, I think I'll be happier when the value of my body crashes like the stock of a bad dot-com.
originally posted by: TheToastmanCometh
a reply to: karl 12
Wouldn't it be more ethical for headless human clones really?
originally posted by: TheToastmanCometh
ehh.... but to be fair, i am for extinguishing babies born with profound disabilities because they have poor quality of life despite some of the best care out there.
• "A newborn baby is not an autonomous being, capable of making choices, and so to kill a newborn baby cannot violate the principle of respect for autonomy."
Bioethicist Peter Singer
Video
originally posted by: AccessDenied
That was a deeply disturbing read.
Alzheimer's Association Hides New Partnership With Lobbying Group for Assisted Suicide
Once at loggerheads, Compassion & Choices and the Alzheimer's Association announced last December that, together, they will focus on a shared effort to improve "end-of-life care" to people with dementia in the "Black, Latino, Asian American Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander (AANHPI), and LGBTQ communities," according to a press release from Compassion & Choices. Together, the organizations will create national webinars, host conferences and local events, share data, "and more," according to the press release.
originally posted by: AOx6179
Ran across this this morning.
Alzheimer's Association Hides New Partnership With Lobbying Group for Assisted Suicide
freebeacon.com...
Once at loggerheads, Compassion & Choices and the Alzheimer's Association announced last December that, together, they will focus on a shared effort to improve "end-of-life care" to people with dementia in the "Black, Latino, Asian American Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander (AANHPI), and LGBTQ communities," according to a press release from Compassion & Choices. Together, the organizations will create national webinars, host conferences and local events, share data, "and more," according to the press release.
originally posted by: karl 12
a reply to: The2Billies
Yes mate according to 'bioethicist' future proposals the Hippocratic Oath should become 'obsolete' and 'people should 'choose to die at the age of 75'.
Bill Gates Senior's Planned Parenthood Federation founder Joseph Fletcher promotes 'killing babies with Down's syndrome or other kinds of idiots' and bioethicist Peter Singer is arguing in favour of 'infanticide' stating that 'there is no relevant difference between abortion and the killing of severely disabled infants'.
You've also got Alberto Giubilini and Francesca Minerva actually promoting infanticide via 'after-birth abortion' arguing that 'the moral status of an infant is equivalent to that of a fetus'.
originally posted by: quintessentone
originally posted by: AOx6179
Ran across this this morning.
Alzheimer's Association Hides New Partnership With Lobbying Group for Assisted Suicide
freebeacon.com...
Once at loggerheads, Compassion & Choices and the Alzheimer's Association announced last December that, together, they will focus on a shared effort to improve "end-of-life care" to people with dementia in the "Black, Latino, Asian American Native Hawaiian Pacific Islander (AANHPI), and LGBTQ communities," according to a press release from Compassion & Choices. Together, the organizations will create national webinars, host conferences and local events, share data, "and more," according to the press release.
If I am ever told that in one year's time I won't recognize any of my family or friends and will lose basically every once of autonomy over my body, then give me that paper to sign because I don't want to live like a vegetable.
Keyword in your post: CHOICES.