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German Health Minister Warns Of Incurable Immune Deficiency Caused By Corona

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posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 07:59 PM
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So, in the last few days we have had an information dump that relays similar information about "Immune Dysfunction" related to the mRNA vaccines messing with igG4 in the body causing this. Now the German health minister is saying Covid is doing it or doing it as well (they don't specify and they may be doing CYA saying it is indicative of Covid itself as to not incriminate the vaccine) So, my question is "Does this happen to non- mRNA vaccinated people as well"? The German article below is blaming it on Covid only but who knows if the unvaccinated are having this issue.

I am sure they will never tell us that one though but it would be nice to know if this happens to unvaccinated or just people who got suckered into the mRNA. Looks like all that talk of V Aids has some truth to it.

IgG4 Antibodies After Repeated SARS-CoV-2 mRNA Vaccination

www.abovetopsecret.com...

MAJOR - After Four Shots, Covid Jabs Sharply REDUCED Immune Function

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Use Google Translate For English:

www.n-tv.de...



Anyone who gets infected with corona more often runs the risk of developing an incurable immune deficiency. According to Health Minister Lauterbach, this is indicated by various studies that are currently being further researched. As a result, the risk of chronic diseases such as dementia would increase.

According to Federal Minister of Health Karl Lauterbach, several corona infections in one person can have serious consequences for the immune system. "It is worrying what we observe in people who have had several corona infections. Studies now show very clearly that those affected are often dealing with an immune deficiency that can no longer be cured," said Lauterbach of the Düsseldorf "Rheinische Post". .




www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...


In addition, in vivo studies have shown that lipid nanoparticles (LNPs) accumulate in the liver, spleen, adrenal glands, and ovaries [6], and that LNP-encapsulated mRNA is highly inflammatory [7]. Newly generated antibodies of the spike protein damage the cells and tissues that are primed to produce spike proteins [8], and vascular endothelial cells are damaged by spike proteins in the bloodstream [9]; this may damage the immune system organs such as the adrenal gland. Additionally, antibody-dependent enhancement may occur, wherein infection-enhancing antibodies attenuate the effect of neutralizing antibodies in preventing infection [10]. The original antigenic sin [11], that is, the residual immune memory of the Wuhan-type vaccine may prevent the vaccine from being sufficiently effective against variant strains. These mechanisms may also be involved in the exacerbation of COVID-19.

Some studies suggest a link between COVID-19 vaccines and reactivation of the virus that causes shingles [12, 13]. This condition is sometimes referred to as vaccine-acquired immunodeficiency syndrome [14]. Since December 2021, besides COVID-19, Department of Cardiovascular Surgery, Okamura Memorial Hospital, Shizuoka, Japan (hereinafter referred to as “the institute”) has encountered cases of infections that are difficult to control. For example, there were several cases of suspected infections due to inflammation after open-heart surgery, which could not be controlled even after several weeks of use of multiple antibiotics. The patients showed signs of being immunocompromised, and there were a few deaths.

As a safety measure, further booster vaccinations should be discontinued. In addition, the date of vaccination and the time since the last vaccination should be recorded in the medical record of patients.


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posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 08:03 PM
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….remember the public shaming for not getting vaccinated?

Remember when it was not going to be mandated?

Remember the dumb arse liberals who all shamed everyone for not getting it?

I remember all of it.




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posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 08:12 PM
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Yep, this is the pivot to blame everything on Covid instead of the vaccine.

That virus is so crafty, doing things no virus has ever done before.


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posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

I had Covid, not jabbed, feel fine.

My wife had Covid, not jabbed, feels fine.

My neighbour had Covid, not jabbed, feels fine.

My brother in law had Covid, not jabbed, feels fine.

My neighbour’s dad had Covid, he was jabbed, he’s dead.

My neighbour’s father in law had Covid, he was jabbed, had a stroke.

My wife’s sisters mother in law had Covid she was jabbed, had a stroke.

My neighbour across the alley had Covid, he’s jabbed, had a heart attack.

My coworkers mom had Covid, she’s jabbed, had serious heart issues. In icu at the moment.

Should I go on?



posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 08:29 PM
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I got the original two, and I have not gotten COVID. I know too many people who stay current and keep getting COVID. I refuse to get boosted when it does nothing really for me.



posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 08:32 PM
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originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Yep, this is the pivot to blame everything on Covid instead of the vaccine.

That virus is so crafty, doing things no virus has ever done before.


Hell, it may be both.

We ALL know that Covid was tailor made to infect humans utilizing multiple entry points (ACE2, CD-147, etc)

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...



Despite lesser affinity towards COVID-19 virus, as compared to ACE2, this receptor provides a suitable justification behind elevated blood glucose levels in infected patients, retarded COVID-19 risk in women, enhanced susceptibility in geriatrics, greater infection susceptibility of T cells, infection prevalence in non-susceptible human cardiac pericytes and so on. The manuscript invokes the title role and distribution of CD147 in COVID-19 as an entry receptor and mediator of endocytosis-promoted entry of the virus, along with the "catch and clump" hypothesis, thereby presenting its Fundamental significance as a therapeutic target for potential candidates, such as Azithromycin, melatonin, statins, beta adrenergic blockers, ivermectin, Meplazumab etc. Thus, the authors provide a comprehensive review of a different perspective in COVID-19 infection, aiming to aid the researchers and virologists in considering all aspects of viral entry, in order to develop a sustainable and potential cure for the 2019 COVID-19 disease.



Maybe this is why the Chinese were so TERRIFEIED of covid that they stayed in lockdown hoping it would go away. Could they have known this was an incurable degenerative disease upon repeat infections?

Interesting Hypothesis.
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posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 08:56 PM
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originally posted by: infolurker

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Yep, this is the pivot to blame everything on Covid instead of the vaccine.

That virus is so crafty, doing things no virus has ever done before.


Hell, it may be both.

We ALL know that Covid was tailor made to infect humans utilizing multiple entry points (ACE2, CD-147, etc)

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...



Despite lesser affinity towards COVID-19 virus, as compared to ACE2, this receptor provides a suitable justification behind elevated blood glucose levels in infected patients, retarded COVID-19 risk in women, enhanced susceptibility in geriatrics, greater infection susceptibility of T cells, infection prevalence in non-susceptible human cardiac pericytes and so on. The manuscript invokes the title role and distribution of CD147 in COVID-19 as an entry receptor and mediator of endocytosis-promoted entry of the virus, along with the "catch and clump" hypothesis, thereby presenting its Fundamental significance as a therapeutic target for potential candidates, such as Azithromycin, melatonin, statins, beta adrenergic blockers, ivermectin, Meplazumab etc. Thus, the authors provide a comprehensive review of a different perspective in COVID-19 infection, aiming to aid the researchers and virologists in considering all aspects of viral entry, in order to develop a sustainable and potential cure for the 2019 COVID-19 disease.



Maybe this is why the Chinese were so TERRIFEIED of covid that they stayed in lockdown hoping it would go away. Could they have known this was an incurable degenerative disease upon repeat infections?

Interesting Hypothesis.



There's no one who will escape getting infected by it, it's only delaying the inevitable. The AIDs proteins and ACE2 / furin cleavage site seems to be done for human transmisibility. The vaxx on the other hand seems to be huge mystery box of dangerous sh#.



posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 09:15 PM
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Since the vaccine makes one more likely to getting covid, I wonder how many people have had immune issues after an infection that weren't vaccinated. I bet that's a number we're not likely to ever learn, if they're even keeping track.



posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 10:32 PM
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I think that both the virus and the vaccine have this property of immune deficiency. The difference is that if your innate immune system fights the coronavirus part of the virus and destroys it's ability to replicate, this will not happen. Since the vaccine is using a part of the spike protein and replicating it in cells to gain immunity, it bypasses the innate response and it will be more of a problem in vaccinated healthy individuals than if they got the virus. This is my opinion of evidence I read over the last few years, and I had this opinion quite a while already because the virus has a few HIV markers on the spikes.

The choice of using the spike protein to make the vaccine was not good in my opinion. But I do realize they could not target the coronavirus since all attempts in the past to make a vaccine against the coronavirus common cold failed to produce a safe vaccine for some reason. Some virologists speculate that since coronaviruses have been around for thousands of years that it has caused changes in our cells, and targeting it caused problems with cells dying or something I have read. The coronavirus is not the only virus that they cannot directly target I think, there are other viruses with the same kind of issue. But this reasoning of why it causes problems to make a vaccine for the coronavirus and others is just a hypothesis, they actually do not know for sure if that is why they cannot target the coronovirus itself.

I have read a lot of virology articles over the last five years, now many of them only give just a little summary, before they went into detail. Why? I think they are censoring what we can read in medical research now so we cannot challenge those making our medicines and regulating it.



posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 10:52 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

In my country, there has been a study showing that many of the people who thought they had long covid( didn't have long covid at all ), and their health problems have a different explanation.

It's a big crime that all this isn't investigated properly!

We need the answers NOW!



posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 10:58 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

I got no clue but if your second quoted article is true and the spike proteins are to blame and the vaccine contains those too, logically I can't see how it would make a difference where you got it from, the virus, the vaccine or a combination. Right?

I'm sorry but I almost have to laugh...
Since the vaccine plus booster number 2, 3, or 4 doesn't prevent you catching the virus, but makes you more likely to become lifelong 'high-roller' customer for Big Pharma... everything according to plan, right?
The biggest #ing scam in history.
That's why you don't trust the person who gains from your addiction.



posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 10:59 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

Without getting into it
they are both bad
but together they are worse


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posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 11:39 PM
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a reply to: infolurker

That part about it reactivating the chicken pox for shingles happened to my cousin shortly after another vax booster. The doctors are saying "it's normal to get the chicken pox repeatedly especially if you were a kid and it was minor"

I thought it suspicious as hell she is in her 30s and magically got a case of it.

But truth is you never actually lose that virus, once you get it you ha e it forever and your body suppresses it. So we all know they full of #. But people actually believe the B's they spew. My uncle is on his fifth shot, and he has all sorts of issues going on.. but he's blinded by what the doctors keep saying and doing.

He refuses to read the science and has suffered liver damage and more. He only listens to what the doctors say. Even when every time he gets a new booster he is injured in one way or another. They keep telling him different excuses. But there ain't much you can do about it.

Reinfection/activation is suppose to be as rare as winning the lottery. As it's only seen in those that have a severe and sudden compromised immune system.
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posted on Jan, 21 2023 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: infolurker


Their odd claim is obviously BS . This is just their tactic to make people look elsewhere than the real culprit.

Notice the timing , we been years now with this , and thousands or millions years together with all sort of viral stuff, our bodys itself.

More than half your body is not human


Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.





posted on Jan, 22 2023 @ 12:55 AM
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Hmm, I would expect a severely compromised immune system widely spread among the population would be reflected by a notable increase of cancer diagnoses. Both new and recurrences from past cases that were previously considered as being under control.

That other shoe has yet to drop. And it could be a real doozy. Imagine the french revolution on a planetary scale.

If I were a younger, more ambitious, man I would start a business building and selling guillotines.

IMHO.



posted on Jan, 22 2023 @ 01:07 AM
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originally posted by: Rich Z
Hmm, I would expect a severely compromised immune system widely spread among the population would be reflected by a notable increase of cancer diagnoses. Both new and recurrences from past cases that were previously considered as being under control.

That other shoe has yet to drop. And it could be a real doozy. Imagine the french revolution on a planetary scale.

If I were a younger, more ambitious, man I would start a business building and selling guillotines.

IMHO.



Turbo cancers are exploding. I know many people who just "got" a stage 4 cancer out of no where in the last year. Previous to this I've known 2 over many decades who had gotten it.



posted on Jan, 22 2023 @ 01:33 AM
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Well if you don't remember they claimed that the increase in cancer patients was because "people didn't go to appointments". News flash they were open, and I know ppl who had cancer prior to covid who continued to get screened, and treatments.

Considering ppl flood the er for headaches and splinters I called bull# on their original claim that the detection is "higher only because ppl stayed home and didn't go to the Dr". Most drs already came out and said most patients that had cancer and were in remission have it again and this time it's like 500% more aggressive then. Previous - which means instead of years from previous diagnosis it's weeks or months max.

So that "uptick" exists it was just masked by a bs excuse. A lot of healthy ppl had virtual Dr appointments. Those that needed physical exams were called in.
Newayz look at the diagnosis rate, it's like 12x 2019 levels, so even if what they claimed was true, instead of 100k new cases it would be 200k for the lockdown year. but it's in the millions right now. So again mathematically their claim never made sense.

Last but not least severely compromised doesn't automatically mean you will get cancer. There is a huge list of other ailments that fall under compromised immunity. It only means that "a cold can kill you". Pneumonia is deadly to those with immunity impairments. Pnocoocle (h/e it's spelled) will kill a immune impaired person in 2 hrs (Drs have told me they have SEEN this for those without their immune system in tact, and there is legit nothing they can do for the infected person. P.s I don't have an immune system, cancer screened twice because of this, due to white blood cells differences and new doctors tend to not understand what's going on til they get info from specialist. I hear the same thing every time).



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posted on Jan, 22 2023 @ 03:58 AM
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They knew back in 2021 that the Corona virus disrupted the immune system...



"We had actually expected that DCs isolated from patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 would activate T cells more potently than DCs obtained from healthy donors," says Krug. "However, we discovered that, in the course of the disease, the proteins present on the surface of the DCs in patients' blood were altered in a way that made them more likely to inhibit T cell responses." In spite of this, by 15 days after diagnosis 90% of these patients had generated antibodies directed against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and many of them had also activated a T cell response. -- these responses are the hallmarks of a robust immune reaction against the virus. "So, the drop in the numbers and reduced functionality of DCs does not seem to have a negative impact on the immune response to the coronavirus itself," Krug says.




"We had actually expected that DCs isolated from patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 would activate T cells more potently than DCs obtained from healthy donors," says Krug. "However, we discovered that, in the course of the disease, the proteins present on the surface of the DCs in patients' blood were altered in a way that made them more likely to inhibit T cell responses." In spite of this, by 15 days after diagnosis 90% of these patients had generated antibodies directed against the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein, and many of them had also activated a T cell response. -- these responses are the hallmarks of a robust immune reaction against the virus. "So, the drop in the numbers and reduced functionality of DCs does not seem to have a negative impact on the immune response to the coronavirus itself," Krug says.


www.sciencedaily.com...

Getting the virus may just be a death sentence for many people.

Also it would appear they are studying one's gene expression or one's genetic makeup, because this seems to have a bearing on the severity of illness of Covid-19:

www.sciencedaily.com...




The group found that, in some cases, the immune system mistakenly flagged and q attacked proteins called type I interferons (IFNs) that help regulate immune response. Normally, antibodies attach to foreign invaders, marking them for destruction by other immune cells. But the researchers discovered that some people made “auto-antibodies,” antibodies against their own type I IFNs. Nearly 20% of the people who died from COVID-19 created auto-antibodies.

“Their immune systems mistakenly depleted their IFNs, making them more susceptible to the virus,” Casanova said. These IFN-targeting auto-antibodies are found in uninfected individuals too, suggesting that they may contribute to the development of severe COVID-19. “Critical COVID-19 pneumonia probably results from insufficient type I IFNs in the first days of infection,” Casanova said.


covid19.nih.gov...

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posted on Jan, 22 2023 @ 05:02 AM
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He almost told the truth......he means the Covid jab.....not the virus.

a reply to: infolurker


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posted on Jan, 22 2023 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: BlackArrow

Yes, except they were predicting that it would be an effect of the lockdowns from the very beginning, and not the people claiming it now, but those against the concept of lockdowns.



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