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Why Russia hasn't completely destroyed Europe....yet?

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posted on Jan, 18 2023 @ 09:22 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

One thing of this conflict which has destroyed Europe and its relationships with Russia.

Russia has cancelled all treaties that Russia had done with Europe to be frankly clear with you. The one who losses in that area is not Russia.



It is Europe.

I had seen several articles from twitter how Euporean Official MEPs are still hoping that after the war they hope that they still get the resources and energy supplies from Russia for cheap again.

Do you honestly think and believe after all the lies that Europe had said to Russia the Russians will ever trust Europeans again after the ruse with the Minsk Agreements?



Europe had shoot themselves in the foot with this conflict because clearly they bend the knee to the US by pressue that those who want further escalation in Ukraine.

Even further.


This conflict could have ended this month this year if the US breed war lovers and War Hawks just accepted the loss of the four provinces in Eastern Ukraine.




Unfortunately there are those in the US who are just hell bent on war nor are they interested in real and actual peace.



posted on Jan, 18 2023 @ 09:24 PM
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BRICS interest is growing that is something that some are being ignored by some.


edit on 18-1-2023 by vNex92 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 19 2023 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Irishhaf

I know there are some Ukrainian supporters and supporters of zelensky.

Its amusing considering you still believe that Russia will be defeated in Ukraine.

The only one way that happens if they ever do an direct military intervention with boots on the ground in Ukraine. But Russia said it before.

Its already an war between US and Russia/East.





Ya your folks keep saying this yet are afraid of outdated offensive hardware? Well.....ok then.
AND nO this is not a war against NATO, because if it was your bum wouldn't be along here speaking to us. NATO is far beyond your comprehension it is laughable.
And just to make one thing clear, I don't know a single person that fully supports the current government of Ukraine but we all know damn sure Putin is NEVER to be trusted. Hence his current hopscotch maneuver which just sp
read forces among three feeble fronts.
Russia will gain in the next few months. My prediction will be that they over exhausted supply lines which are pretty much non existent. And if outin really wanted to prove his world worth he would have already.
He is not a big player but just a dumb one.

edit on 2/19/2013 by Allaroundyou because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 19 2023 @ 03:45 AM
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a reply to: Dizle81

Why hasn't NATO stepped in and stomped Russia?

In a conventional war, it appears that it could do just that...but, there's the little problem of mushrooms beginning to sprout throughout the West...

Escalation to Nuclear War. Generally speaking, most want to avoid that, if at all possible.

So, proxy war. Supply Ukraine with the material aid required to smack the Russians upside the head with a clue stick, without, hopefully, triggering Tsar Vlad the Mediocre to escalate to a point none of us want.

That would be why.



posted on Jan, 19 2023 @ 03:48 AM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Remind us how anyone has faired...

I don't think anyone has had much luck in Afghanistan.



posted on Jan, 19 2023 @ 03:56 AM
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a reply to: vNex92

What is the state of the Russian economy now??

At the beginning of the fiasco Russia had a rather substantial war chest to finance its war. It's half the size it was. Do the math, by this time next year Russia will be in financial ruin.

They can not afford to build any more weaponry such as tanks, they have no access to Western electronic components for missiles, and other things of that nature...so they're very limited on what they can do to replace what's already been burned through in the past 11 months.

So it sounds to me like the US/NATO, through their support of Ukraine, are doing a fair job of defeating Russia.



posted on Jan, 19 2023 @ 04:10 AM
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a reply to: vNex92


BRICS interest is growing that is something that some are being ignored by some.


Is it?
Evidence?

China has obviously been quite restricted in offering any sort of practical support for Russia - in fact China and Turkey are probably the best two avenues for brokering any sort of peace deal.
India initially voiced tentative and limited support for Russia but is gradually distancing itself from them.

That leaves South Africa and Brazil.

The largest investors in South Africa are by far European countries - UK, Netherlands. Belgium, Germany and Luxembourg - along with the US and Japan.
I can't see them jeopardising that.

Largest investors in Brazil?
Netherlands, US, France, Spain, Canada, Austria, Japan, Luxembourg.
I think the same can be said for them.

So....that sort of leaves the likes of Iran, North Korea and other rogue nations.



posted on Jan, 19 2023 @ 09:53 AM
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originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Irishhaf

One thing of this conflict which has destroyed Europe and its relationships with Russia.

Russia has cancelled all treaties that Russia had done with Europe to be frankly clear with you. The one who losses in that area is not Russia.



It is Europe.

I had seen several articles from twitter how Euporean Official MEPs are still hoping that after the war they hope that they still get the resources and energy supplies from Russia for cheap again.

Do you honestly think and believe after all the lies that Europe had said to Russia the Russians will ever trust Europeans again after the ruse with the Minsk Agreements?



Europe had shoot themselves in the foot with this conflict because clearly they bend the knee to the US by pressue that those who want further escalation in Ukraine.

Even further.


This conflict could have ended this month this year if the US breed war lovers and War Hawks just accepted the loss of the four provinces in Eastern Ukraine.




Unfortunately there are those in the US who are just hell bent on war nor are they interested in real and actual peace.


Do you really think the US will bend a knee to the little cub Russian Putin child?
Hahaha you guys just don't learn do ya?
Go eat your bugs and report back to your leader. Tell him you done real good and would like an additional piece of bread for you servitude.
BTW you did nothing to help your cause brah.
You just continue to put on display the desperation that is coming from Russia.
So keep it up so we know how much of a failure that country is.



posted on Jan, 19 2023 @ 10:44 PM
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a reply to: DarthTrader

lol, sure you totally are the expert here, all of Europe is in the UCTE network 220kV to 400kV three-phase-alternating current of 50Hz achieved through transformers, Ukraine is part of that since March 16 2022.
Which means your attack would make it exactly to the next transformer and that's it.
You'd blow up that transformer.



posted on Jan, 20 2023 @ 01:25 PM
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originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: DarthTrader

lol, sure you totally are the expert here, all of Europe is in the UCTE network 220kV to 400kV three-phase-alternating current of 50Hz achieved through transformers, Ukraine is part of that since March 16 2022.
Which means your attack would make it exactly to the next transformer and that's it.
You'd blow up that transformer.


That bottleneck is critical - it's a huge strategic mistake. The inertial load of the current EU is now vulnerable with significant lack of redundancy which means massive changes to inertia if Ukraine is cut off from the grid. That's going to cause mechanical damage to the power plants remaining on that grid. It's not a simple matter of "cut off the problem and be isolated" because it's all one synchronized machine all spinning together as one giant inertial machine.

You all ignorantly act like you can just turn off 10% of its inertial capacity and everything will be fine.



posted on Jan, 20 2023 @ 01:26 PM
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originally posted by: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: Irishhaf

One thing of this conflict which has destroyed Europe and its relationships with Russia.

Russia has cancelled all treaties that Russia had done with Europe to be frankly clear with you. The one who losses in that area is not Russia.



It is Europe.

I had seen several articles from twitter how Euporean Official MEPs are still hoping that after the war they hope that they still get the resources and energy supplies from Russia for cheap again.

Do you honestly think and believe after all the lies that Europe had said to Russia the Russians will ever trust Europeans again after the ruse with the Minsk Agreements?



Europe had shoot themselves in the foot with this conflict because clearly they bend the knee to the US by pressue that those who want further escalation in Ukraine.

Even further.


This conflict could have ended this month this year if the US breed war lovers and War Hawks just accepted the loss of the four provinces in Eastern Ukraine.




Unfortunately there are those in the US who are just hell bent on war nor are they interested in real and actual peace.


Do you really think the US will bend a knee to the little cub Russian Putin child?
Hahaha you guys just don't learn do ya?
Go eat your bugs and report back to your leader. Tell him you done real good and would like an additional piece of bread for you servitude.
BTW you did nothing to help your cause brah.
You just continue to put on display the desperation that is coming from Russia.
So keep it up so we know how much of a failure that country is.


Biden took it in the bum for Taliban, so yes. US will bend the knee. Especially when trannies have to pay more for their makeup. Too hard a fight for them.



posted on Jan, 20 2023 @ 02:32 PM
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a reply to: DarthTrader

No, you can actually. They're called 'islands' if I remember that right, you can totally separate them and it takes about 5-18 hours or so to synchronise them again, because there was some incident in Italy 2003(?) where exactly that happened.

I'm too lazy to look it up, but ...close enough for your turbine phantasy to be laid to rest in peace.



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