Chilean Military Release 2014 Navy Helicopter UFO Encounter Video ... in Full

Italian UFO investigator and youtuber "Omega Click" has given John Greenewald the unedited raw video and documentation he received following a FOIA request to the Chilean military.

Extract from the email sent to John Greenewald.

The video in question has been circulating on the internet for years and has often been considered as an airliner landing (a conclusion that the Chilean government considers absurd) once the case was addressed, I contacted the email on the SEFAA website who replied giving me all the information to make a formal request for access to the documents. About 10 days later I had the material released by a DGAC government mail shared me a drive which I pledge to send you in full. There are internal letters, forms (from the pilot and the official who used the FLIR camera) information (with all the analyzes done by external consultants), the flight track and the high resolution video. I manage the largest Italian youtube channel of ufology and related phenomena.I translate documents pursuant to the FOIA and in my country it has never happened that a foreign government has granted UAP documents to an ordinary citizen.

The video is 14 minutes long , the UFO appears from 4.28 ... enjoy.

The file of the French GEIPAN which ran to help SEFAA to study the phenomenon (it concluded in a very inopportune way that the phenomenon was PROBABLY due to a landing plane) Not that a whole series of accessory documents. In the meteorological report it is written in black and white “a meteorological phenomenon is excluded” In the report of the department of photogrammetry of the air force it is written that “it’s not a bird. It’s not a hang glider, it’s not an airplane, it’s not a flying insect, it’s not an unmanned aircraft, it’s not a parachute, the object has control of its movements, you observe that has a volume, is not disturbed by the wind, the object reflects light, emits a certain type of energy”

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a reply to: gortex

Am I seen that right that it is invisible to the normal camera but not the other lens? infrared?

a reply to: chris_stibrany

That's what I was thinking , the operator changes to different modes but can't seem to find or see it ... curious.

Thanks for posting, interesting clip. Seen before but not with the extra context of a fuller clip.

Strange emmission of cloud/vapour towards the end and the appearance of the "thing" seperating into two.

Only rational thought would be a group of helium balloons which seperated into two groups when some of them burst and left the trail behind from the gas released.

I was waiting for a quick movement from "it" but it only seemed to be travelling at air speed despite what was said in your quote above about it having "control".

One more to put in the pot I suppose.

Cheers.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: chris_stibrany

That's what I was thinking , the operator changes to different modes but can't seem to find or see it ... curious.

I often wonder if these kind of sightings, the Tic-Tac craft included, are man-made "drones" that have some unknown-to-us capabilities that are used for testing and calibration of equipment in research and development designed to keep up with spy technology around the globe.

Keeping it secret in plain sight and using the carefully released clips to keep everyone guessing while a secret agenda continues behind the scenes.

Maybe.

All these different militaries/governments around the globe releasing all these declassified videos and materials at the same time is dubious. The American government just dropped another round of nothing burgers yesterday.

They are up to something and I believe William Cooper has(had) the answer...

a reply to: gortex

Curious indeed but here's the skeptical take on it. Lots of good info here and lots of well researched facts. I'm can be a pretty staunch believer myself but this one dings my skeptic-bells. You have to read the whole article for their take. I won't quote it all as not to plagiarize, but I have to put a few big chunks so you get the idea, sorry if it's too much quoting. Anyway, I thought the airplane excuse was ridiculous at first too until I read this sucker:
Skeptoid's Take

Either it's an invisible UFO with the heat signature of an Airbus, or it was a limitation of the camera looking at a plane that was basically the same color as the clouds. Here are some quotes from the Skeptoid article.

So when they contacted ground stations to ask for any radar contacts, they were told no because they were looking in the wrong place. The camera on the helicopter was a WESCAM MX-15 electro-optical/infrared imaging system, mounted in a ball on a gimbal at the nose of the helicopter. It's a close range camera system, used in applications like police, search and rescue, and certain non-combat military applications like surveillance. It's very different from anything you'd find on a fighter plane, for example, that needs to identify and target objects that might be 50 or 100 miles away. It's not a radar and provided no useful positioning data on the UFO; the pilots were estimating the distance, and they estimated way short. Without triangulating data, there is no way any human observer can reliably judge the distance of an object in the sky. That's a limitation imposed by geometry, and no amount of training can circumvent the laws of geometry. So they were told there's nothing on radar because they were looking in the wrong place.

IB6830 was an Airbus A340, a four-engined plane, with a group of two engines on one wing and two on the other. To a low-resolution camera like the MX-15, these two groups of hotspots look like two blobs from behind, from far enough away — an exact match for what's shown on the video. It's an illusion that would be familiar to anyone used to looking at airplanes on infrared, but incredibly, Leslie Kean's article includes a quote from a spokesperson from CEFAA that says it was the first time they'd ever dealt with infrared video.

The pilot's attempt to hail the UFO received no response because of standard procedures. If you want to address an airliner, you need to address them by their flight number, or at least have some pretty darn specific identifying information like their correct position. If you don't, or if the position you describe is as far wrong as their estimate was, they're not going to respond, nor should they.

What about those black clouds extruded by the UFO? Although Leslie Kean made a valiant effort to claim they were unexplainable and couldn't possibly be contrails, this is trivially disproven by the entire history of looking at aircraft through infrared. Contrails look exactly like that; they show up the same black color as warm, dense clouds. This is why they were invisible against the cloudy background when the operator switched the camera to optical. Fuel-burning aircraft produce water vapor in about the same volume as fuel they burn, and if the ambient temperature and humidity are right, that water vapor quickly condenses into a persistent cloud. Atmospheric conditions are never homogenous; there are pockets of warm air and cool air, high humidity and low humidity. If conditions are right on the edge, contrails stop and start as the aircraft flies through the various bubbles. This is visible in countless videos of planes leaving contrails that you can watch online, and it's exactly what the helicopter crew witnessed.

Their take on why the Chilean officials couldn't figure it out:

According to the CEFAA's website, they trace their lineage back to members of the Chilean Commission for the Study of Unidentified Space Phenomena — a purely civilian, amateur UFO group going back some 50 years, and based in Santiago. They were friends, like-minded guys who liked to meet and talk about aliens and UFOs, very much like the amateur UFO groups we have in the United States and all around the world. Their director was Sergio Bravo Flores, a local airport meteorologist, who got into it originally because his was the phone number people called when they wanted to report a UFO to someone.

After a few relatively high-profile UFO cases happened in Chile in the 1990s, another UFO enthusiast — one who happened to be an Air Force officer — lobbied the Commander in Chief to create the CEFAA as part of the DGAC, the Civil Aeronautics General Administration. It's a small group of UFOlogists, less than a dozen, and it's not clear if it's a volunteer organization or what, as they are all listed along with their actual professions — things as disparate as medical doctors and law enforcement. UFOlogists are represented by the same cross sections of society as other groups.

So the mystery of why the Internet figured this out in five days when the Chilean government couldn't in two years looks a little less mysterious. It wasn't "the Chilean government" so much as it was a small group of UFO enthusiasts. They may be experts in whatever their fields are, but when it comes to UFO reports, such people tend to only see alien spacecraft and come up with whatever rationalization is needed to reject anything that doesn't agree with that — to a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Their group did not include anyone experienced with spotting the "usual suspects" that explain optical illusion videos like this; but the Internet includes countless such amateur experts. It's the same reason that these online communities also have very thorough explanations for all of the current US Navy UFO videos, while the UFOlogists staffing these Pentagon offices and trying to advise Congress have only claims of inexplicability.

Mick West, who runs the Metabunk website, wrote up an analysis of how this all went so wrong for Chile and so right for Internet crowdsourcers and published it for Skeptical Inquirer magazine, later in 2017, and included other examples of large communities quickly solving puzzles that small numbers of experts in the wrong fields could not. I'll close with Mick's money quote:

The lessons learned here are that groups of experts are no guarantee of success when investigating obscure phenomena, and the smaller the group, the less likely they are to have the exact obscure mix of knowledge that is needed. Experts should not be put on unassailable pedestals, especially with UFOs, since by definition it's impossible to be an expert on something if you don't know what it is.

Thus, after two years of lacking familiarity with optical illusions, the CEFAA was satisfied they had a real alien spacecraft, so Leslie Kean was at the top of their call list. And the result? Once again, the media had a field day with it, and the general public once again had an ignorance-based explanation reinforced instead of an informed one.

Could be a bunch of "we don't know" soup, but oh well. If it really is an alien UAP, it did a pretty good job disguising itself with the heat signature of an A340. Those clever ETs... he he

ETA maybe the "separating in two" visual effect was the plane changing direction in relation to the camera lol

originally posted by: servovenford
ETA maybe the "separating in two" visual effect was the plane changing direction in relation to the camera lol

Maybe it was two hot air balloons tethered together until they reached altitude. They then seperated becoming two objects, added hot air to one or more of the balloons, and that is what the trail is made from, an injection of hot air into cold surrounding air.

The next couple of minutes of clip could have offered more conformation of something like this.

a reply to: JAY1980

They are up to something and I believe William Cooper has(had) the answer...

Everything he says ties in perfectly with what's been happening since Covid hit and how rapidly things have ramped up.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: JAY1980

They are up to something and I believe William Cooper has(had) the answer...

Everything he says ties in perfectly with what's been happening since Covid hit and how rapidly things have ramped up.

It’s amazing what tremendous patience TPTB have. They’ve been patiently waiting for technology to catch up. Thousands of years this has been in the works…

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: chris_stibrany

That's what I was thinking , the operator changes to different modes but can't seem to find or see it ... curious.

I see evidence of magnetic fields at 4 primary locations like an atom with the orbital clouds that are glimmering at about the 4:30 -4:50 mark. Yes, it is shaped like the target of the camera and could be an artifact. I would have to see Airplanes in a similar recording to compare if that was the camera. If not it would not surprise me to be a magnetic levitation type craft. I am sure we have them in our own military of much weaker sophistication than these video recordings are revealing in the "wild".

a reply to: gortex

Its not too far off the gimbal ufo in shape.

Cant upload a pic to compare.

Great video Gortex thanks for posting

On the first sighting you can see in a X shape
4 faded blury circles. It is Drone!
with can can of smoke!

you dont see it do ANY think a drone can not do!
I bet this is a Traing exercise.
some one in china is making fun of you.

has any one got infrared film a drones?
and they can be easly made to Not show much heat.

I am pretty sure 99% of what we see are great big super fast/non human made Drones all right. They defy our version of Physics on many occasions and therefore require more than some "its a drone" comment that was meant to say nothing ever to see here.

Try hard to think for yourself when you see evidence of UFO's moving at speeds and turning at angles that would destroy life forms inside the vessel. When we can answer the Physics defying movements, we will be real close to understanding this phenomena. Until then we should be following the data and not emotions at all.

originally posted by: buddha
On the first sighting you can see in a X shape
4 faded blury circles. It is Drone!
with can can of smoke!

you dont see it do ANY think a drone can not do!
I bet this is a Traing exercise.
some one in china is making fun of you.

has any one got infrared film a drones?
and they can be easly made to Not show much heat.

Hmmm, I don't know what to make of it.

At first glance they look like balloons, but it becomes clear they are not.

Why we couldn't see it in standard setting but in flir is what unnerves me.

Not visible in our spectrum, what a nice stealth skin. However on flir? What a massive signature! I'm betting they were thinking no one would be flying around with a flir attached, what are the odds? Derp.

Could be a number of things.

Aliens and their exotic technology having inadvertent adverse effects in our atmosphere and level of gravitational pull.

Balloons emitting a concoction of helium and plastic filament, ala party materials.

Could be a biological uap, emitting methane as it floats along, still yet to be discovered.

Could be Crypro Terrestrials doing something wierd and utitilizing surprisingly similar simple technologies like controlled weather balloons and trying to be discreet.

Idk, but something is definitely happening in that video.

a reply to: gortex

Interesting video thanks for posting!



Can a fuel dump only seen in infra be ruled out ?

Could be a UFO I suppose, I can only see shapes and no identifying details ... so who knows?

a reply to: gortex

The craft does not appear to be moving at a super fast speed….but perhaps at conventional aircraft speeds….



I’m leaning towards an aircraft fuel dump of sorts……from a smaller aircraft (not the size of an airliner)



As for not being able to see it with normal camera view lensing…….it seems to me that when the normal camera view is on, it’s pointing to scattered cloud cover….perhaps the craft is embedded into the cloud cover not to be seen until the camera is switched to thermal or IR.

A temperature difference of the fuel exiting the aircraft and mixing with the temperature of the surrounding atmosphere……would, imo……show up as contrasting differences on a thermal/ IR camera.

👽

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Yep it's not doing any big tricks like some of the other UAPs in videos do, it doesn't appear to be going all that fast, and it does look like a fuel dump.
Fuel dumps happen more than you think. When a plane is going to be above its maximum landing weight, it has to dump fuel. There was some controversy about one dumping fuel over a kid's playground on youtube a while ago.
This could happen for a lot of reasons, the flight didn't burn as much fuel as expected or has to turn back around due to a minor issue (sick passenger, landing gear won't go up, or some other common ailment) and has too much weight to make a safe landing, so it has to dump.

I don't know if I agree that it may have been a smaller plane because the analysis about the position of the A340 sounds pretty solid, but you could be right for all we know, might have been a charter jet or a 737 sized bird.

Take it from a pilot, white airplanes can very hard to see from a far on a white background (clouds/bright sky, especially lower on the horizon). It would make sense that the camera would be having a hard time picking it up.