FBI reveals it uses CIA and NSA to spy on Americans

corrupt governments have always being spying on their citizens. Nothing new.

I really, really think you all have to use your mote of intelligence. Listen very closely. This has been going on for years, I did say years. Please look up 5 eyes. This mechanism was set up to do just this. Any and I mean ALL the alphabet agencies in the US can honestly say "we do not spy on our citizens". Correct. But they have got the UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada to do it for them and that mechanism is mutual. IE. they other 4 can spy on the other country so they can say the same "it's not us".

FBI CIA and NSA admit to violating the 4th for 320,000,000+ citizens.

Break any crime that many times and you'd think some punishment would come from it.

They should all be disbanded.

a reply to: musicismagic

People think the slow allowance of drug legalization is all about victimless crime. It's just slow walking soma into the world for the purposes of obtaining easy compliance and control. If you're drugged, you won't care.

Best part of this glaring hypocrisy is The FBI doesn't have the authority to speak like they are the DOJ 🤣
We knew this Comey thing was all bu!!sh!t right "at that point"

a reply to: infolurker

Ha,ha,ha,ha! This is GREAT! THE CIA, NSA and ALL the others ...uses the FBI to get info!!!!!!!!!

originally posted by: NightFlight
a reply to: infolurker

OK, The alphabet agencies are spying on American Citizens.


Just who are they spying for? China? Russia? Communists AKA Democrats?

I don't believe we are in America anymore, Toto...

Yes, who ARE they spying for? The Dem's? The two-party system? Offshore foreign interests? Or ______???

originally posted by: crayzeed
I really, really think you all have to use your mote of intelligence. Listen very closely. This has been going on for years, I did say years. Please look up 5 eyes. This mechanism was set up to do just this. Any and I mean ALL the alphabet agencies in the US can honestly say "we do not spy on our citizens". Correct. But they have got the UK, Australia, New Zealand and Canada to do it for them and that mechanism is mutual. IE. they other 4 can spy on the other country so they can say the same "it's not us".

I'd also suggest that the first Patriot Act actually openly blazed the trail for ALL US intelligence agencies to deconflict and share information between one another.

I don't understand what they hope to find when spying on us. Are they fishing for anything or searching for specific things? What are they hoping to find by investigating someone like me and other nobodies that are trying to stay off the political radar?

I can understand casting a large wide net and hoping to drag up something relevant from the depths, but I can't help but think that they are monetizing this somehow and/or using it as a weapon. Finding and following leads is different then spying on everyone and then selling, I mean sharing, your information or using it as a political weapon against individual citizens. They are misusing this tool, it's like using a screw driver to destroy something rather than just tighten up a screw to fix it.

There are many in this conversation, who I would like to address. I can't, because the answers are so intertwined together that I would be repeating myself over and over again, a tiresome prospect for both me and any interested readers.

FBI = politics. The Federal Bureau of Investigations (as an institution) is now and has been for decades, primarily focused on public/political imagery. They expend more energy on 'appearance' than all 'law enforcement' operations combined and multiplied. This is a function of their leadership being subordinated to a political class of ideologues - all of whom share the same obsession with making "America" believe something specific.

Recently, the FBI was the unfortunate subject of a 'reveal' which they apparently never expected. You see many already knew that they were directly interfering with the public conversation. 50 years ago, people would have been charged and prosecuted for what they are now known to have done. Today, that's not possible since the leadership is so politically vested, they protect themselves... mostly relying on the 'journalist reporting' (press) to create 'imagery' which moves them 'out' of the center of inquiry.

But there is now a 'safety publication' for the FBI as an institution, (the single most powerful 'politically relevant' law enforcement operation in the country.) Now, we see a news piece which dilutes their involvement by spreading the notional guilt around to department of defense agencies which will NEVER reveal their activities (and rightly so.) How convenient.

Hollywood and Madison Avenue think tanks have filled our heads with productions based upon drama, action, and intrigue which 'inform' our imaginations... which is much easier to exploit than facts.

Suddenly, a major news source has issued an article... The Washington Times... relying on reporting from "The Intercept" - which they fail to link in their article (things that make me go hmmm...) who is the primary 'press arm' of the "First Look Institute" (oh boy,) which came into existence back in 2018(?)... are we absorbing this yet?

Any news story that begins with, or focuses on the "FBI" calls into question three important factors:

1 - Which unnamed politically-appointed FBI toady supplied (leaked) the "information" which is being cited here?
2 - Who appointed said toady, who is his direct report?
3 - Which globalist organization does said toady's CABAL adhere to (CFR, some 'Institute,' some "group?")

Think about this...,

The story headline can be accurately rewritten as such... "DOJ enforcement arm uses DOD to spy on American citizens."

Think about that.

Does that sound even remotely feasible? If it were a response to a "national threat" the FBI has no place in it except as support players for a larger DHS/DOD response... otherwise it would be a non-DOD issue... they are already fighting for their own objectives... not helping "police" politically inconvenient dialogue. The highly political DOJ (they weren't always so) might 'want' DOD to expend resources for its' benefit - but lacking explicit executive direction - it can't.

This story may have your hackles up... it may give you a bit of 'cringe' sensation, it may even elicit a "I knew it!" type reaction... But whatever the details missing actually are, know that they are not reported for a reason that has nothing to do with reality... but instead what they are 'selling.'

This is as far from the truth as you could possibly stretch it.

I suggest we pay close attention to the narrative here... not 'feed' it.

a reply to: jerryznv

We can both (maybe a lot of folks) rest easy that the CIA and NSA aren't digging through our stuff on ATS (that we are aware of anyway)!

I'm of the firm belief that they ARE monitoring sites like this to gauge the political/social climate and adjust their next plan of attack, with more than a few member plants.

Say the right words and you're on the Top Secret list; there's a copy in Biden's closet and another in his garage.

Oops! I just got another black check mark.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: jerryznv

We can both (maybe a lot of folks) rest easy that the CIA and NSA aren't digging through our stuff on ATS (that we are aware of anyway)!

I'm of the firm belief that they ARE monitoring sites like this to gauge the political/social climate and adjust their next plan of attack, with more than a few member plants.

Say the right words and you're on the Top Secret list; there's a copy in Biden's closet and another in his garage.

Oops! I just got another black check mark.

Maybe...

I think as soon as I clicked the "Accept terms and Conditions" I was already thinking that I really didn't care if they were monitoring me!

I suppose I am an odd duck though...I have Twitter, Not the Bee, Parler, Facebook, Instagram, TikTok, etc...accounts and being a conservative, Christian, white male, puts me on some kind of watch list anyway.

I guess I don't care...compared to their corruption...mine is a drop in the bucket!

If they really want to know what I'm up to then I'll put some coffee on! As far as a general consensus report about the political/social atmosphere and there being "plants"...well possibly...that would be truly sad though!

Cato Institute senior fellow Patrick Eddington said the updated rule book shows that the FBI is confident that it will not face consequences for its conduct.

“The bureau is continuing to hide the fact that 1) they can and clearly do use informants to penetrate domestic civil society organizations where those informants may, either on their own or at FBI direction, attempt to influence the organization’s actions,” Mr. Eddington said in an email. “And 2) [they] employ searches of CIA and NSA data streams on U.S. persons or civil society organizations absent a criminal predicate via assessments.”

I had heard my neighbor say that he was surprised that the NSA confided in him.

The words CIA and NSA are unredacted in section 20.2 of the 2021 rule book, while the full details of the section remain hidden from public view.

I wonder what else are they up to, that they are not telling us about?

Can You Hear him Now ?

originally posted by: MetalThunder
Can You Hear him Now ?

Biden is part of the game.

FBI reveals it uses CIA and NSA to spy on Americans

Knowing that, I amazed at what some people post on chats, forums, social media etc. There is no anonymity and the feds data mine with other agencies other than the 3 letters. Besides the inhouse operations, they use contractors as well.

Deny Ignorance

originally posted by: olaru12

FBI reveals it uses CIA and NSA to spy on Americans

Knowing that, I amazed at what some people post on chats, forums, social media etc. There is no anonymity and the feds data mine with other agencies other than the 3 letters. Besides the inhouse operations, they use contractors as well.

Deny Ignorance

The internet is easy pickins, but that is not their only data pool. Your cell phone is a better resource than the internet, and there are cameras on almost every street corner, transmitters in almost every newly installed purple light, and cameras and microphones in almost all new household appliances, and some old ones even.

We have been living in Metropia the whole time.

originally posted by: 1947boomer
a reply to: infolurker

Did you catch the part where it said this was authored during the Trump administration?

What exactly was authored?

They've been doing this for long, long before Trump...

The ridiculous amount of money being spent on informants and the crimes that they are being authorized to commit should be investigated and scrutinized.

FBI And Other Agencies Paid Informants $548 Million In Recent Years With Many Committing Authorized Crimes

originally posted by: IndieA
The ridiculous amount of money being spent on informants and the crimes that they are being authorized to commit should be investigated and scrutinized.

FBI And Other Agencies Paid Informants $548 Million In Recent Years With Many Committing Authorized Crimes

That alone would have made a great thread. Very few question this element in the many highly publicized FBI success stories... more than people would likely estimate I would wager. Hollywood has long portrayed 'informants' as a class of heroes... while ironically and simultaneously likening 'whistleblowers' as 'weasels.'