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“I looked out the window and I saw flames out on the field, extremely red flames and lots of smoke. It didn’t look like a fire… I saw a ship coming down close to the flames. Right on top of the ship, I saw a blue flashing light and another light was on the bottom, very bright... I was looking at it for about 10 minutes or so. And then the ship went a little bit back over the trees and it disappeared. I saw all the flames turn out at the same time… I’ve lived here for many, many years and I have never been so scared in my life.
“What am I going to tell them? I’m going to tell them I saw flares out there past 10 o’clock at night and there was a ship up there. And they were going to say, ‘Okay Diane, that’s fine, we’re coming over.’ So that’s why I didn’t call.”
“I searched everything, there was just nothing. The only person I told was my mom and my husband… who is going to believe me that this really happened? So I kept it to myself.”
“On the label was the name “Guardian.” And it was accompanied by a fingerprint. Guardian to me was an enigma, certainly nothing I had heard about in the UFO literature. So, it was a mystery starting from scratch.”
“It’s one of the clearest videos I’ve seen that shows a structured object..”
“It appeared to be so large that it would not be logical to try to set all this up at night, under darkness... Clearly, if there was a hoax involved, Diane would’ve seen evidence of it in advance.”
“I think Guardian has to be connected to the event in some way. I don’t see any way Guardian could’ve just happened on to this. I don’t see Guardian as a UFO investigator. Guardian is much more involved in this than the evidence even suggests, in my opinion.”
“This document is clearly a fabrication. There are way too many errors in the document to make it authentic. Someone with very little effort could have come a lot closer than this.”
“Clearly, this could've been someone dressed up in a costume. …why would anyone contaminate such an extraordinary event with fake images of alien creatures?”
“This is either an extraordinary top secret flying vehicle of somebody’s government, or it is of a non-human origin. Having no contact with Guardian is probably the biggest frustration to an investigation like this. We don’t know who Guardian is, what Guardian represents. We don’t know if Guardian was sent or went on his own. We have no idea what the solution to many of these mysteries are going to be. We may never know.”
…although I could find nothing conclusive to support or disprove any of the witnesses claims. I shall check back around the area later this summer."
No matter what or how good the story is, 50% of the people will believe you, 50% won't. All you have to care about is the 50% that will….'
…As of September 1st 1994, I will be retiring from UFO research and investigation…
This may be the first time that a self-styled 'Professional Full-Time Ufologist' quits as the result of controversy…
In his letter of resignation Oechsler writes: ..."the effects of my involvement have been quite debilitating" ... "The malicious libel, slander distortion and unchecked fabrication that runs rampant in the UFO field is destructive and counterproductive."
Interesting that Oechsler would write those words - that's the way we feel about his 'involvement' in ufology and particularly his 'work' on the Carp/Guardian Case…
… [he] told some of his close associates that he plans to lie-low until "the heat dies down" waiting for us to publish our MUFON ONTARIO REPORT ON THE CARP/GUARDIAN CASE before mounting a defence.
Oechsler seems to think that what he did will be forgotten with the passing of time and he will once again rise, Phoenix like, with yet another 'world's best UFO case'.
MUFON Ontario wants Oechsler to know that he is wrong. Serious ufologists will not forget his unscrupulous actions and we too will be there in the future to point out his reputation to newcomers.
Oechsler once called us "Those stupid fickle Canadians who don't know what they want or how to get it." But, the dogged persistence by Canadian MUFON organisations, other UFO groups and independent researchers across the country working together in uncovering the facts, accomplished what Oechsler never anticipated happening - the truth coming out. This despite the threat of libel lawsuits against our senior members, this publication, we writers, MUFON in Seguin Texas, The MUFON UFO Journal, and several individuals who helped spread this story.
We've amused ourselves by contemplating a class-action suit against Oechsler to recover monies expended by us and spent by the ufologically curious.
At no time since the Carp 'Story' broke, have Oechsler, Maccabee, the Lebeneks, Gill, or Charlebois pointed out any discrepancies in any of our findings, by letter to us, any of the UFO press or on the computer networks.
Oechsler has only bothered to tell a few individuals and MUFON Headquarters in Seguin, Texas that he was going to sue us and anybody else involved in publicizing the true story because we were "taking his livelihood away".
In conclusion our findings are as follows:
1) The Labeneks, Bobby Charlebois, Pavel Farfara and possibly others were involved in creating a Hoax video and distributing it as a recording of a 'UFO landing'.
2) That Susan Gill's story was used to pad the Carp event, even though her 'event' occurred (if at all) at a different time.
3) Oechsler used his manipulative ability to build a story even though he knew of the circumstances and exactly what was going on. Together with Bruce Maccabee, intentionally misled the public, the media and ufology using unethical means, and bad judgement in order to benefit financially and personally.
4) That the Guardian video of a 'UFO landing' has, after analysis, proved inconclusive and likely is either a pick-up truck or (according to the RCMP investigation) a helicopter.
originally posted by: mirageman
Also on the videotape were images which Guardian claimed show an alien being. Bob Oechsler wasn’t convinced:
Still frame of alleged alien on Guardian video
“Clearly, this could've been someone dressed up in a costume. …why would anyone contaminate such an extraordinary event with fake images of alien creatures?”
I wonder why there is a dig on Doty on the card?
originally posted by: Ophiuchus1
a reply to: mirageman
MM….what’s the direct source…links, etc… of the Guardian Document and what month and year was it supposed to have been written?
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Definitely a case of Too Much info when just a little info would have seemed so much more intriguing - as it was before 'Guardian' even appeared on the scene. They overcooked their goose!