Old film clip from wreckage 1947-48

These films have never been debunked and not many have seen them . One shows a disk crashing - that is White Sands with unknown particulars.

I don’t like creepy music in the background but I think they are legitimate

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a reply to: play4keeps

anything that is that grainy, intentionally edited with effects is fake. always has been, always will be.

and i'm fairly sure that the one you claim was a crash has been debunked as a missile test and there is a thread here somewhere from years ago.

truth doesn't need to be edited to conceal the fake sh!!.

originally posted by: play4keeps
These films have never been debunked and not many have seen them . One shows a disk crashing - that is White Sands with unknown particulars.

I don’t like creepy music in the background but I think they are legitimate

youtu.be...

Some of this for sure is BS…..if not all…previously debunked vids and pics have been thrown into this compilation of stuff and given the Ol black and white with film specks and streaks special effects routine.

For example



What it really is….


Etc…

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a reply to: play4keeps

This is a complete fake. The maker used clips from a variety of documentary and sci-fi films, converted it to black & white, and made it look old and scratchy.

Some of the identifiable images include a picture of a NASA Viking Mars lander aeroshell following a drop test at White Sands Missile Range, in 1972, a test missile striking the ground at White Sands sometime in the 1980s or 1990s, and the NASA Genesis sample-return capsule crashed halfway into the ground at Dugway Proving Ground in 2004.

a reply to: play4keeps

When there is that much editing and ageing added to a video, there has to be fackery going on. And as others have already started, some of the shots are easily identified as known objects.

a reply to: play4keeps

I'm starting to think the UFO's and Saucers from the 40's are just Nazi Tech , I'm starting to think all of it is just Top Secret Government tech and it always has been .

It's a good Psy-Op probably one of the greatest in history , but with modern telecommunications and everyone having cameras in there hands if there were UFO's in the sky we would have Videos 'REAL' videos .

Perhaps Extra-terrestrials are real but I promise you this they are not Crashing metal saucers in the New-Mexico Desert nor are they flipping around in the sky showing off to people .

a reply to: play4keeps
I don't think video or images will ever be accepted as proof, no matter how good or bad the quality. It's too easy to fake, even if it isn't fake. Such is the state of ufology in the 21st century.

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Nice debunk!

Cheers…..

Fun vid though, aside from the stupid music and “we are your friends, ova n ova n ova…..
Makes me wonder, again, who does the fake vids?
A bored shill, or………


da pirate 😎






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Nice collection of faked UFO clips put together in Microsoft movie maker with added effect "old scan lines" and "black and white" and res generalized to the worst possible, could be a primary school project perhaps 4th grade material.

Yes another example of someone who creates something just for the attention.
It's been happening for centuries, but now it can be mass distributed.

Humans are a strange species.

originally posted by: havok
Yes another example of someone who creates something just for the attention.
It's been happening for centuries, but now it can be mass distributed.

Humans are a strange species.

Strange and yet very predictable too!

I suppose that's why we (whoever) look to debunk this stuff...because human predictability says someone created it for attention (probably) and that is more likely than it actually being a video of some unexplainable phenomenon (or whatever the video is)!

originally posted by: havok
Yes another example of someone who creates something just for the attention.
It's been happening for centuries, but now it can be mass distributed.

Humans are a strange species.

I haven't bothered to watch a UFO video for a long time now. I'm getting tired of the same old same old.. in the 50s and 60s we had some guy with a clay model flying saucer, then there was photoshop, and along came drones... you want proof? It's going to have to be something a lot more multifaceted than a video or image. By that I mean, add in, burnt patches of grass, strange material analyzed, a person who is suddenly glowing neon green for no good reason in the dark... then it might be alien UFOs. But a picture or a video? It's all little personal hollywoods now.

Ever since the advent of digital technology... ALL media can be faked. ANY media can be faked.

How to overcome this potentiality will have more to do with the creator than with the platform.

This "imagery" fails to rise to the level of verifiability. Most will.

Sad, because any of the 'evidence' which may be shared with us could be genuine, but once it is digitized and uploaded, there is NO WAY TO TELL. Even genuine submissions are subject to this weakness.

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: play4keeps

I'm starting to think the UFO's and Saucers from the 40's are just Nazi Tech .

Ah, yes, Die Glocke!

All of the modern space program is based off Nazi technology. Many scientists surrendered/defected towards the end of the war. Others were picked up in Operations Paperclip and Osoaviakhim.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: play4keeps
I don't think video or images will ever be accepted as proof, no matter how good or bad the quality. It's too easy to fake, even if it isn't fake. Such is the state of ufology in the 21st century.

Ya damn right…..

Article: UFO Hoaxes? There’s an App for That!

It has now gotten to the …..”landing or crashing, in highly populated areas”….. stage for me, where I need to see either one on the main media world news before believing.

My UFO entertainment now comes from Paranormal Caught on Camera.

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The video is a mash of extra grainy quality old military/NASA footage.

Including the Mars Voyager aeroshell



And the Viking Space Probe after tests in the desert.



Look 'em up.

This follows on from the last post by this OP which was actually known charlatan Linda Moulton Howe trying to pass off lifted artwork from Philipe Kling David as genuine alien footage. She even had the cheek to try and copyright it. Illegally!!!

a reply to: mirageman

This is why it is so difficult to be a Ufologist. People like Linda, Gray Barker, etc going to great lengths to fabricate sightings for the sake of attention, and sometimes for more nefarious purposes. Gray once wrote a foul-mouthed poem about his acquired disdain for the UFO crowd later in his "career" as a writer. I won't repeat his words here or I will be sitting in the corner with soap in my mouth. This poem was published in "Gray Barker's Book of Bunk" written by John C. Sherwood. Barker really didn't seem to like his own clientele very much towards the end.
The bottom line here is that some people just like to mess with people.

originally posted by: cmdrkeenkid

originally posted by: asabuvsobelow
a reply to: play4keeps

I'm starting to think the UFO's and Saucers from the 40's are just Nazi Tech .

Ah, yes, Die Glocke!

All of the modern space program is based off Nazi technology. Many scientists surrendered/defected towards the end of the war. Others were picked up in Operations Paperclip and Osoaviakhim.

it seems the most logical explanation , Flying Saucers started appearing coincidentally around the 30's and 40's .

and funny thing is I don't believe in Coincidence nor should anyone else , It's anti-gravity tech cracked by the Nazi's during the 30's and 40's , the Crash in Roswell New-Mexico was clearly Reverse Engineered Nazi Tech and people thought it was Aliens so the Government let the Media run with the Alien Story.

Now like I said in my other response , I don't doubt the existence of Extraterrestrials , I doubt what people think they know about them.

And No one can edit film AFTER to show NASA built it!
Nasa and CIA would NEVER do that.
it would be unfair!

originally posted by: Ophiuchus1

originally posted by: play4keeps
These films have never been debunked and not many have seen them . One shows a disk crashing - that is White Sands with unknown particulars.

I don’t like creepy music in the background but I think they are legitimate

youtu.be...

Some of this for sure is BS…..if not all…previously debunked vids and pics have been thrown into this compilation of stuff and given the Ol black and white with film specks and streaks special effects routine.

For example

What it really is….

Etc…

👽

a reply to: play4keeps
Thank you for all the input. My feeling has always been legit has been mixed with phony and illligit disinformation. It is difficult to trust anything at this point with images and film. When Scan lines and Microsoft can even change old BW film , you have a hard time discerning anything even made to look “old”. So now we are left with the videos are always presumed to be fakery.

“Some of the identifiable images include a picture of a NASA Viking Mars lander aeroshell following a drop test at White Sands Missile Range, in 1972, a test missile striking the ground at White Sands sometime in the 1980s or 1990s, and the NASA Genesis sample-return capsule crashed halfway into the ground at Dugway Proving Ground in 2004.”

The Dugway video has been used in others to show a supposed ET craft crashing. That’s not what it was, of course but speaks to my point of insertion

The question begets the asking - is the stuff bait click hounds with CGI skills or something about disinformation in some contracted shop ? Probably the former but some swear the later is occurring.

anyway, another year past and nothing néw or Earthshaking. This is sad coming from someone who knows a small part of what is occurring- and that “interests” and “influence” have kept a nice lid on the pot.