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Germany's Scholz bets on immigration

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posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 02:59 PM
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With Germany's far right not doing anything to stop immigration.

Italian Far right Meloni hasn't done enough to crack down on the NGO immigration fiery service/Human trafficking from Libya at all.
Only 2 out of 7 NGO boats had being prevented.

With more NGO boats on the way towards Italy and Italian Naval coast guard nowhere to be found active.

Germany's Scholz is betting on immigration.



Germany's Scholz bets on immigration, more working women to counter labour shortages




The German government last month agreed plans to reform immigration law, as Berlin seeks to open up Germany's job market to much-needed workers from outside the European Union.

German govt doesn't care about the German people.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:04 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Great topic that is pretty much being ignored in US media.

I recently saw a video on Irish men confronting men from the Ukraine that were refugees there.

The Irish people were asking them why aren’t they fighting for their own country. The Irish said their elderly and young are suffering and don’t have enough money so why are they helping people from the Ukraine.
It’s happening ALL over the place, and it has nothing to do with race.

I think most share this sentiment. This is 100% about economics and
We all have our own problems and don’t want more added to the place.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:07 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

This is not about opening the country to more labor, that is a lie, just like in the US they want fresh meat to be able to change the political Lanscaping in the country, immigrants hold no loyalties to the nation they are invading, that takes years if ever.

Countries are going to use immigrants to hold to power.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:21 PM
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a reply to: marg6043

Its not about labor it never was about Labor.

If the mass immigration were about Labor why the majority of the current migrants in Western Europe are all either men out of African origin?

Why are they bringing just men out of African Origin for Euporean Labor?


In one small Italian town there is a number of African men migrants and some Kurds that ended up in this town that was left by Italians who moved on to Cities or bigger towns for opportunities.
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posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

As much as I dislike Scholz and as much as I dislike how the immigration is handled, you're wrong when you think we don't need immigration.

Just today I saw statistics in a video that pointed out that we need 400k immigrants for workforce. Per year for the next two decades. We have a shortage of workers and it's only getting worse with the baby boomers retiring currently.

Germany needs the immigration dire, no matter how I personally feel about diluting our culture.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: TDDAgain
Germany needs the immigration....


When you say "needs" that implies something bad will happen if Germany doesn't get the immigrants. Tell me, what is this bad thing that will happen if no immigrants come?

And is that worth losing your homeland and your natural culture and identity for?



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:49 PM
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a reply to: starviego

Collapse of the rent system, collapse of the medical system, collapse of economy in general, because we can't even find workers for basic jobs like laying tiles and similar. It is of course a homemade problem as the German population has a reproduction rate lower than 1.5 and the big steal from the rent system decades ago.

It's basic math really. And I am not fond about "loosing my homeland and your natural culture and identity", a sentence I find slightly histrionic though.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: TDDAgain

You do realize the more immigration, migrants come the less German culture it would be? and than you wonder why the far right are rising in Germany and Europe?




Just today I saw statistics in a video that pointed out that we need 400k immigrants for workforce

You actually believe the mainstream news media lie.

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posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:52 PM
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Collapse of the rent system, collapse of the medical system, collapse of economy in general, because we can't even find workers for basic jobs

The more you bring the more rent and collapse of the system increases.




because we can't even find workers for basic jobs

You have a Government in Germany that doesn't care about its own German people.
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posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:54 PM
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You do realize the


No, I am just dumb and evidently I believe everything I get told or see and make threads about it on the internet.




There are number of Euporean/German People who are German/German that could be working but is the working giving the Europeans in Germany a chance?

Yeah but they don't work so go figure, someone else will take the job. It's that easy! I was on the lookout for an apprentice but could not find one because today everyone wants to study and earn big cash instead of doing honest work. And then there is also Harz4, something you as a foreigner have little idea about so why don't you actually educate yourself about my country before you make a thread about it and then just nullify my input with your flat out conspiracy mindset?

Why don't you?



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

Sherlock...




The more you bring the more rent and collapse of the system increases.

No, actually the more people pay into the rent system, the better it is for our current situation when you do not have enough young workers paying into it.




You have a Government in Germany that doesn't care about its own German people.

You don't say *gasp*. That you felt the need to point this out to me, in return, tells me that you think I actually defend what my stupid government is doing. But unlike you and others here, I am very capable of discerning between my own wishes (preserving culture) and naked reality.

I don't need you to tell my my government does not really care about us. Maybe you get off your high horse and understand that not everyone bringing arguments against what you claim, is a friend of the state and a brainwashed enemy of the people.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:00 PM
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originally posted by: TDDAgain
Collapse of the rent system, collapse of the medical system, collapse of economy in general..


Now who's histrionic? Where have worker shortages(assuming that's even true, which I doubt) ever caused an economy to collapse?



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:05 PM
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a reply to: vNex92

The Germaan has emigrated all over
we in UK are 1/2 Saxon ish.............. geream wentbtoi Namibia///////// Lots of Krauts over there especiallly in Swakopmund and Windhoek

I ACTUALLY LIKE THGE German. i'm pretty much 3/4 Kraut and 1/4 Yiddish like most Youropeans


Deutschesland Ober Alles



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:08 PM
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No nation 'needs' immigrants to survive. The only one who 'needs' immigrants is the New World Order, in their drive to destroy all national cultures and identities and borders.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:09 PM
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a reply to: TDDAgain

So ever consider the reason you need 400k poorly trained immigrants to do manual jobs is you filled the local youth with ideas that the manual Job is beneath them.

Having social credits that pay the same or more than manual jobs who would work?

The migrants aren't coming to work they are coming for free stuff, they have no intention of working.

Most of the field workers are on legal contracts and work seasonal on year after year contracts.

Add now you can steal almost anything from the shops with out fear of a consequence, who needs to work.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:21 PM
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originally posted by: puzzled2
The migrants aren't coming to work they are coming for free stuff, they have no intention of working.


Agreed. What proportion of immigrants who have come to Germany in the last five years are actually working?

I'll bet that number is pretty low.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:22 PM
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a reply to: puzzled2
Nobody says we are looking for poorly trained immigrants or it's what we need. It's my government making a bad job. I say intentional. And again, I AM NOT GERMANY. I did not "fill the local youth with ideas".

You're barking up the wrong tree, all together.

And you too don't need to educate me, I have made my fair bad share with immigrant interactions. What you forget is that Germany is highly industrialized, job density is very high and also specialized. We have over two million open jobs and people rather sit on their asses.

So cold hard logic dictates, we need migration of workers. That's all I said. I didn't say that I welcome uneducated immigrants or what I think about them. I am sorry you and the other two smart asses are not mentally capable of grasping and discerning between that.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:33 PM
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originally posted by: TDDAgain
We have over two million open jobs..


Well you've got more than two million unemployed as it is:

tradingeconomics.com...
The seasonally adjusted unemployment rate in Germany edged up to 5.6 percent in November 2022... It was the highest jobless rate since July 2021, as the number of unemployed increased by 17 thousand to 2.538 million.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:43 PM
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a reply to: starviego

I tell you we have two million open jobs and your response is to tell me we have more than two million unemployed?

Guess what? That's the whole problem and what I keep repeating. At this point, if you don't grasp it, I can't help you.

Do you understand that, even in the current economic situation, everyone unemployed is unemployed because they either are too sick to work, unqualified for the open position or just flat out declining jobs because it's not what they want?

This is so pointless, the whole thread is pointless because I write and write and write and no one actually tries to understand what I say. But yeah, I am out of this, not worth my time arguing with stupid that counter like you just did. FFS lol.



posted on Dec, 11 2022 @ 04:53 PM
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a reply to: starviego

Exactly in eastern Europe.

In some Eastern Europe countries they are rewarding families that have more children. So why cant woke Western Countries do the same?

Is that because they are trying to replace their population?


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