the ufo conundrum

the ufo topic is complex and confusing to say the least, we tax payers pay for the salaries and benefits of govt employees as well as all the euipment they use, they have supposedly captured "compelling" evidence in the form of photos and videos for decades but for some reason they classify it so the public cant see what they paid for? all we ever wanted from the govt was the evidence

the question of are we alone in the universe as somewhat intelligent beings we ponder, is there evidence? is there proof? what if the us govt has captured that evidence and even undeniable proof over the decades but refuses to release it the the public? it seems a small group of people have handed the baton of secrecy over time probably in a good faith effort to protect the technilogicval advantage the might be gained from a break through, i wouldnt hold your breath, some want it out and some want to hold on to their positions of we know something you dont nah nah nah nah nah nah, im glad that congress is about to turn on some lights

they say they have compelling evidence then show us, they wont even tell us what theyve seen but the problem is theres actual proof in the form of recovered technology and bodies of non human lifeforms according to leaks and testimony, now this could all be one big psyop balloon but what if it isnt? doesnt anyone else want to know who are they? where do they come from? what do they want? what can we learn from them? etc.

so the keepers of this secret arent just hiding it in plain sight with playing dumb and some of them are really good at it btw as well as the ambiguity of it all but theyre hiding the fact that theres plenty of intelligent life in the universe and probably in many different forms or realms that we humans have no clue about at this point and thats unfortunate but hopefully one day soon the truth will be known

do you believe in ufos? or more importantly do you believe in the evidence of ufos existing? discuss down below please

a reply to: saskwatch

Question:

IF there was "compelling proof" of intelligent extraterrestrial life, evidenced via the phenomenon of UFO'S/UAP'S,..


Why haven't the extraterrestrials made themselves unequivocally evident to the public, en masses, instead of contacting only a select few civilian (leaving them with scant convincing evidence) and playing "catch me if you can" with military assets on the regular?


It would seem to me that these ET's do not themselves wish to reveal their existence (if they do, in fact, exist) to anyone except the military.

a reply to: saskwatch

I definitely think they exist. I was just thinking about it actually because I had read the article about seeing the first galaxies less than a billion years after the big bang.

Existed before? Had to have, if you consider the odds of elements and conditions coming together like they did with our planet. At least I'd say they've come and gone for sure like we will. Currently existing? Probably. Then you narrow it down to galaxies because, lets face it, it becomes exponentially rarer for life that currently exists to be able to travel from galaxy to galaxy. Isn't there literal billions of those, or is it just millions?

So what we'd really be concerned with is in the galaxy, that can travel from solar system to solar system in a fast way that we'd have no clue about trying to replicate or even understand.

And you think that "they" have crashed alien materials or dead bodies?

a reply to: saskwatch
What I can be sure of is they are lying about it . Any press statement has an agenda to it.... I look around myself and the world how it is...and how it was 150 years ago .. and look at what's happened to the world with tech ... Where did this wave of development come from ... Or the SciFi movies of old that are now becoming reality it's like they knew back then what was coming (because its planned )
The way the world changed and how it is developing does not feel natural ...our tech does not support life it causes cancers and other health issues ...that all leads me to ask where does this tech advancement come from ... Who's really in charge of the world ? And it does appear to have an anti human and anti life agenda to it .. gmo everything alter nature

originally posted by: Mantiss2021
a reply to: saskwatch

Question:

IF there was "compelling proof" of intelligent extraterrestrial life, evidenced via the phenomenon of UFO'S/UAP'S,..


Why haven't the extraterrestrials made themselves unequivocally evident to the public, en masses, instead of contacting only a select few civilian (leaving them with scant convincing evidence) and playing "catch me if you can" with military assets on the regular?


It would seem to me that these ET's do not themselves wish to reveal their existence (if they do, in fact, exist) to anyone except the military.

They dont want the responsibility for revealing themselves. Teh Gov of the worlds made deals with them and part of those deals was also not revealing themselves.

a reply to: yuppa
The best way to conquer is from behind the scenes ..do it slowly ....shape society ...the way tech has come in .... The way society is being changed now.....

Growing up there were two distinct types of aliens I knew of.

One that works with physical bodies, technologies and material craft (UFO's) and were Materialists (the Greys), and the others that were a form of Conscious Intellectual Energy Forms, and who were more Spiritually Inclined (they simply move at the speed of light).

They had different proficencies, skills and purposes but worked together in tandem when it came to certain individuals.

As far as I can gather it's an Experiment in Evolution and also a way to sell things to the right people to facilitate a certain Socio-Pyscho-Evolution in order to achieve a desired result that we can only speculate on.

(Your results may vary.)

I am a Military Brat and have been having known visitations and various communications since I was eight.

That's why I'm awake at this hour to contribute to this thread.

It's not easy being cheesy.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
Growing up there were two distinct types of aliens I knew of.

One that works with physical bodies, technologies and material craft (UFO's) and were Materialists (the Greys), and the others that were a form of Conscious Intellectual Energy Forms, and who were more Spiritually Inclined (they simply move at the speed of light).

They had different proficencies, skills and purposes but worked together in tandem when it came to certain individuals.

As far as I can gather it's an Experiment in Evolution and also a way to sell things to the right people to facilitate a certain Socio-Pyscho-Evolution in order to achieve a desired result that we can only speculate on.

(Your results may vary.)

I am a Military Brat and have been having known visitations and various communications since I was eight.

That's why I'm awake at this hour to contribute to this thread.

It's not easy being cheesy.

it's easy to lie though, right?

speed of light... what a load of horsesh.t.

a reply to: jedi_hamster

Just sharing observations.

Your results may vary.

What if they are like Time Travelers from the very distant future man, coming all the back in time in some grandfather clock experiment. And that all the prophecies that the primitive religions got right were all just ancient history from the Future that got leaked, an it pissed off God or set off some temporal paradox.

And that we can’t know cause it would knowing the future, which would just piss a literal butterfly that would not only endanger the present, but themselves too so they might have to kill or something to persevere their own existence.

Which is why they are so secretive an covert, cause they could be our descendants, an saying who knocked up who is going mess with them. Then there’s the whole praying an the meditating acting like save points an beacons, while all they want is a thank you a without asking #.

it some far out whacky stuff man, but seems plausible an likely.

a reply to: jedi_hamster

Once again. you can get to parity with light speed by reducing your mass to zero(fuel included). the trick is to get faster you have to make the field even stronger to warp the space around you.

a reply to: yuppa

Not to mention they're making remarkable observations about Quantum Entanglement these days.

Superpositioning, being in two places trillions of lightyears apart simultaneous and influencing one another instantly with no discernable method of communication or informational transference.

It really is fascinating to see science catching up with the times.

Back in my day we just called it "Magic" or "God's Will".

Part of me thinks it would be absolutely hilarious to live to see the day when Science finds undeniable proof of a Creator, just to watch the smug Atheists heads explode.

If God turns out to be an alien, #'s really gonna get interesting, doncha think?

the Universe is under no obligation to make sense to you. — Neil deGrasse Tyson

good to know.

thanks.