Infertility due to vaccine. Just doing some statistics.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: ntech

Forget about the social security system, it's company pensions that you need to worry about first and foremost.

Google "Enron", and see what happened when the company collapsed and took its pension system with it. People who paid into their pensions their entire adult lives were left with nothing. If they ad individual investments then their money would have been safe.

Also, look at the postal service. The pensions of people who retired a decade ago are dependent on people delivering the mail today. When you pay into a post office pension you're not saving for your retirement, you're paying for the retirement of someone who have already retired.

You just better hope that by the time you retire there is enough money going into the system to support you.

Yes our government has created and allowed dozens of different Ponzi schemes and eventually they’re all going to collapse… there will be nothing left for anyone sooner than later and when the great reset happens the obese and ignorant will solve a huge problem for the rest of us that have been keeping them alive and living high on the hog…

That aside birthrates are dropping rapidly and there is only one reason for that which you will never concede to no matter how much evidence is ever presented so… so enjoy wasting your breath…

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

originally posted by: nugget1

That adds a lot of context to what we're seeing on the world stage. It's not about overpopulation; it's about too many elderly people overloading the system.

Which is why country's need to start transitioning to a system where people save for their own retirement in independently managed funds, rather than one where the current labor force pays in while the retired labor force takes out. As with social security.

Not useful at all when the government and the financial cartel are crashing the economy and destroying the value of the currency you've saved in.

a reply to: incoserv

So, off shore it. Or invest it in land.

a reply to: SwissMarked

That aside birthrates are dropping rapidly and there is only one reason for that which you will never concede to no matter how much evidence is ever presented so… so enjoy wasting your breath…

The problem here is that I'm old enough to know that this isn't a new thing. It's been going on for decades, and it's happening all over the world. The common factor isn't some shadow cartel wanting world domination, it's the rise of the educated middle class. It happened in Japan and South Korea, it happened in most of Europe, and it's happening in the US.

We're currently seeing it happening in big Chinese cities like Shanghai too.

I'm also well-travelled enough to know that the declining birth rate doesn't apply to much of Africa, where their birth rates are climbing, and they have demographics that are heavily skewed towards the young rather than the old.

On top of this, Roe V Wade absolutely nails it. Surely if you wanted to reduce the population you would increase access to abortion, not decrease it.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: SwissMarked

That aside birthrates are dropping rapidly and there is only one reason for that which you will never concede to no matter how much evidence is ever presented so… so enjoy wasting your breath…

On top of this, Roe V Wade absolutely nails it. Surely if you wanted to reduce the population you would increase access to abortion, not decrease it.

Bait and switch… vaccinate the people dumb enough to succumb to the pressure and cause them to become infertile while keeping them pissed off about something that doesn’t matter or apply to them any longer so they don’t bite the hand that’s beating them…

Abortion numbers are down… why… it’s not because people aren’t screwing anymore… it’s because they aren’t getting pregnant anymore… STD rates are flying through the roof yet pregnancies are down… again… why…

You know the answer… and I don’t know what personal stake you have in pushing and protecting vaccinations but it’s disturbing and disgusting…

a reply to: SwissMarked

STD rates are flying through the roof yet pregnancies are down… again… why

STD rates are up because people are having more sexual partners, and because they are using non-barrier contraception such as IUDs and the Pill.

Fertility is down because of things such as those exact same STD, as well as factors such as obesity, women waiting until later in life to try for children, and men wacking it to porn too much.

Again, this started decades ago.

a reply to: AaarghZombies

We had such an uptick tendency per year the last decades? That's why you can not be taken serious, you omit facts and try to solve it with a simplistic answer.

People are not as dumb as you think they are. But nice try though. Since you are a self proclaimed math nerd, SHURE you can bring us a statistic that shows what we are seeing currently with birth rates, has been ongoing for decades.

originally posted by: nugget1
Models have shown for some years now that birth rates are plummeting and we are nearing the point where there aren't enough younger people in the workforce to support those aging out and retiring.

That adds a lot of context to what we're seeing on the world stage. It's not about overpopulation; it's about too many elderly people overloading the system.

No clue to what you are saying here...lol Make little sense.

We have been in decline for like 2 decades, so now its the vaccine...OK Also, what does the older population have to do with reproduction?

a reply to: DaRAGE

Even without Covid/Vaccines birth rates are down all over.

I’ve read there are so many reasons, obesity, synthetic clothing, food & supplements,
Lack of health of both genders, endocrine disrupters in food, air, water, clothing, grooming products.

We had a 20% twenty percent drop in just one year and people are like "birth rates declined for years".

Yes, yes, that's true but does not muster the intelligence to grasp that a 20% decline is not normal and has not happened for decades on a yearly basis.

Sheeesh I wished some would use their brains instead of making flat simplistic comments like that.

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

How about the fact that the covid lockdown effectively locked people out of fertility services

I really don't think people have put into context just how bad health wise the lockdowns were, especially for kids.

originally posted by: DaRAGE

www.nichd.nih.gov...

The above article has references/citations listed and is from 2/8/2018.

So what does all have to do with the vaccine since it is from Feb 2018?

This quote you pulled is also from 2018..

About 9% of men and about 11% of women of reproductive age in the United States have experienced fertility problems.1

originally posted by: TDDAgain
We had a 20% twenty percent drop in just one year and people are like "birth rates declined for years".

Yes, yes, that's true but does not muster the intelligence to grasp that a 20% decline is not normal and has not happened for decades on a yearly basis.

Sheeesh I wished some would use their brains instead of making flat simplistic comments like that.

When people were in lock down were they able to go out and reproduce?
Think about college students and young people alone as a demographic. They had to go back to their parents house and lock down. There were no parties, no meeting people.
Then the young people that lived on their own and could get pregnant may have thought this was NOT the type of world they wanted to bring a child into. Fights over toilet paper, lock downs, sickness from Covid etc.

Add in some unhealthy behavior while on lock down and I can easily see how “fertility”

a reply to: incoserv

Never attribute to malice that which can more readily be explained through incompetence.

originally posted by: JAGStorm

Even without Covid/Vaccines birth rates are down all over.

I’ve read there are so many reasons, obesity, synthetic clothing, food & supplements,
Lack of health of both genders, endocrine disrupters in food, air, water, clothing, grooming products.

Except outside of some African countries most of the world population is in low birth rate of below 2.1 per woman needed. Most is social and economic issues. People today do not want to have kids because they do not see them as a part of their life's desires and they are also very expensive with a ton of responsibility young people just do not want. Add in the whole thing about women taking a big part of the work force today and they just do not have time or desire to have kids too. The sad part is when they hit 45+ and all they have is a small 401k at best as their only success in life it becomes kind of a bitter pill to take.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Actually it's the other way around. It is known historically that people have more sex when they have nothing else to do. Prolonged power outages, snow storms and other similar crisis. We even have jokes here about that, old jokes. You are trying to connect not getting new partners with instant baby generation decline. That's not how it works.

We all were in such a situation and the birth rates decline by a huge amount more.

a reply to: DaRAGE

This question was investigated via direct experiment about a year ago:

"A Prospective Cohort Study of COVID-19 Vaccination, SARS-CoV-2 Infection, and Fertility"

Abstract:
"Some reproductive-aged individuals remain unvaccinated against coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) because of concerns about potential adverse effects on fertility. Using data from an internet-based preconception cohort study, we examined the associations of COVID-19 vaccination and severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) infection with fertility among couples trying to conceive spontaneously. We enrolled 2,126 self-identified female participants aged 21–45 year residing in the United States or Canada during December 2020–September 2021 and followed them through November 2021. Participants completed questionnaires every 8 weeks on sociodemographics, lifestyle, medical factors, and partner information. We fit proportional probabilities regression models to estimate associations between self-reported COVID-19 vaccination and SARS-CoV-2 infection in both partners with fecundability (i.e., the per-cycle probability of conception), adjusting for potential confounders. COVID-19 vaccination was not appreciably associated with fecundability in either partner (female fecundability ratio (FR) = 1.08, 95% confidence interval (CI): 0.95, 1.23; male FR = 0.95, 95% CI: 0.83, 1.10). Female SARS-CoV-2 infection was not strongly associated with fecundability (FR = 1.07, 95% CI: 0.87, 1.31). Male infection was associated with a transient reduction in fecundability (for infection within 60 days, FR = 0.82, 95% CI: 0.47, 1.45; for infection after 60 days, FR = 1.16, 95% CI: 0.92, 1.47). These findings indicate that male SARS-CoV-2 infection may be associated with a short-term decline in fertility and that COVID-19 vaccination does not impair fertility in either partner."

academic.oup.com...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: AaarghZombies

How about the fact that the covid lockdown effectively locked people out of fertility services

I really don't think people have put into context just how bad health wise the lockdowns were, especially for kids.

I watched a bunch of the government covid briefings back in 2020, most of what you're talking about was put to the government by journalists, and most of the concerns were answered in some fashion.

What we're seeing was predicted at the time.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
a reply to: JAGStorm

Actually it's the other way around. It is known historically that people have more sex when they have nothing else to do. Prolonged power outages, snow storms and other similar crisis. We even have jokes here about that, old jokes. You are trying to connect not getting new partners with instant baby generation decline. That's not how it works.

We all were in such a situation and the birth rates decline by a huge amount more.

Yes, but back then they didn't have netflix and Instagram.

Couples had less sex, not more, because they had far more other things to occupy their time.

originally posted by: TDDAgain
We had a 20% twenty percent drop in just one year and people are like "birth rates declined for years".

So where did you get that?

Couples seemed to have been busy during the pandemic.

For the first time in seven years, birth rates in the United States increased – albeit by only 1%.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s National Center for Health Statistics revealed there were 3,659,289 babies born in 2021, the first rise in births since 2014. Past years had seen a steady birth decrease of 2%, according to ABC News.

The data comes after births dropped 4% — dubbed the “baby bust” — in 2020 during the pandemic. Combined with COVID-19 deaths, it caused a decrease in population.

Here is birth rates in the US

U.S. Birth Rate 1950-2022
Fertility Rate

The current birth rate for U.S. in 2022 is 12.012 births per 1000 people, a 0.09% increase from 2021.
The birth rate for U.S. in 2021 was 12.001 births per 1000 people, a 0.09% increase from 2020.
The birth rate for U.S. in 2020 was 11.990 births per 1000 people, a 0.09% increase from 2019.
The birth rate for U.S. in 2019 was 11.979 births per 1000 people, a 0.09% increase from 2018.