1561 Celestial Phenomenon Over Nuremberg

Over the town of Nuremberg Germany in the early hours of April 14th, 1561, the citizens noticed hundreds of little fireballs exploding in the sky, objects of all shapes and sizes—spheres, triangles, cylinders, and crosses—were whizzing past each other in battle form. The war in the sky, some called it. Some histories believe it was a hoax and the story was just passed down as fact
Funny enough the strange account was recorded on a broadsheet, by Hans Wolff Glaser, who published the broadsheet for over thirty years until his death in 1573. He believed.
‘A broadsheet a large piece of paper printed on one side only with information on it.’
What’s your view, fact or fiction?

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a reply to: sixpaque

You have a period at the end of your URL, so the link does not work.

a reply to: Archivalist

Try this one... Just backspaced the period in the URL bar.

Try this

As for the info on this, it's the first time I have read about it with many more details than anything I've seen before on this case.

Seems it happened, and not explained nor understood fully still to this day.

I had a dream once as a kid, it was much like the story presented in that woodcut. The sky was filled with many different kinds of UFOs battling it out with some falling down as burning wreckage. That was all I remember other than I was at the grand parents' farm in this dream. I may have been influenced by this story though as my grand parents had a couple of unexplained paranormal books that I read and they may of had this one.

No matter what really happened, just to have the idea of a battle in the sky as described way back then is amazing. If it were fabricated, then why not knights (like in similar stories of that time as stated in the article) or devils and angels or the Virgin Mary? Why would they make up a story about simple geometric forms that sound a lot like current UFO sightings of cigar shaped mother ships and black triangles? Maybe this is the real thing and the report was more or less accurate for it's time and place.

With the burning spheres crashing to the ground, you'd think the local people would have keep relics (or even other records) in a church or something. That was over 400 years ago, so there would likely be no real evidence left other than this report.

Hans Glaser was a sensationalist that did whatever he could to sell his printing.

cool story but nah, just atmospheric phenomena that helped him sell.

Maybe it was the first Squid Game?

Sorry, poor attempt,

Bally out!

FWIW there was another allegedly viewing like this in Basel Switzerland described and drawn the same way five years later

montrealparanormal.com...

and mentioned here

a reply to: sixpaque

If the epic huge battle took place, there sure be lots of physical proof around.

Thanks, I just notice that but they won't let me change it now.a reply to: Archivalist

a reply to: Sakrateri

Have you ever seen a UFO? Well I have and until you see one you will always be on the fence. Some can be videoed. Some cant. I and others have seen a silent black triangle along with pulsating-flashing orange UFOs and those [5] color pulsating-flashing red, blue, green, white and yellow UFO's that I reported to NUFORC and The Black Vault. Lets forget about Hans as the event was seen by many as reported:

April 14, 1561

A news report of the incident stated the event started with objects seen on the Sun, witnessed by “many men and women.” These various shaped and colored (mostly red or black) objects appeared to be fighting with each other. The report further states that the “fight” lasted over an hour until the objects were “fatigued” and fell to Earth in smoke, though no mention is made of any evidence on the ground. A woodcut broadsheet illustration of the phenomenon was also made, later featured in the 1958 book by Carl Jung, Flying Saucers: A Modern Myth of Things Seen in the Skies. Jung, the famous psychiatrist that was a contemporary of Sigmund Freud, preferred to label the sightings as religious and military misinterpretations of natural events. Natural explanations such as “Sun Dogs,” flying swarms of insects, clouds, birds, or other such normal things, have been postulated, but no definitive explanation has been made.

Then we have this:

Not exactly a one-time event, a similar mass sighting took place in 1566 over Basel, Switzerland, in which multiple objects were witnessed by throngs of people, those UFOs also appearing to be fighting with each other. This incident was also reported in the news of the day.

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: sixpaque

If the epic huge battle took place, there sure be lots of physical proof around.

It was almost 500 years ago, FWIW as well as I believe the story says that when they crashed into the ground they would disappear. Not saying I believe that necessarily but it was in the story IIRC

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: sixpaque

If the epic huge battle took place, there sure be lots of physical proof around.

The Nazi's in the 1930's dug up huge areas under were the battle if that is what it was may have happened and built there huge national parade grounds there landscaping much of the area, afterwards they developed technology's that were odd such as Die Glocker or The Bell (an acorn shaped object that was claimed to float off the ground among other things) which may have ended up in US hands after the war and some have linked to the Kecksburg UFO incident and of course there are other claims of exotic Nazi technology such as the claims of ongoing Nazi enclave development of technology's, AKA operation high jump which was definitely not to text equipment and gear in arctic conditions I mean the US has northern Alaska for that and possible active Nazi enclaves in central and south America (So likely if the Nazi's did find something they probably could not fully understand or replicate it hence we are still here and not living under official Nazi rule today but they did their damned best to learn the technology behind whatever they found apparently - luckily for us probably one of the losing sides craft).

Also think on the time period, something made of metal was going to be turned into farm implements if they could melt it down, but it is a fact we simply only have a hand carved image made after the incident by someone who probably did not see it for a printing press very far away based on the accounts of the incident which is still used as reference to the incident today, still it is interesting that the wood carving used to illustrate the original newspaper pamphlet of the period does show at least one plume of smoke rising from the ground outside the city.
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Meanwhile inane modern interpretations by sceptics have even tried to claim that it was nothing but a rare weather event while UFO believers are often equally imaginative - note my own opinion.

This hole site is about the unexplained and this interesting story was documented, truth, fiction or someplace in-between? I heard and read manuscripts about that story when I was 12, and that was a long time ago. So believing some of this sH*&% is in my DNA. 😀 Watch for my story on crop circles, truth or fiction??? a reply to: LABTECH767

Maybe someone needs to take their metal detectors over there and do some prospecting. Find us some artifacts. I always found the woodcut intriguing.

Sun dog , pretty similar

a reply to: Spacespider
That is the only thing that makes me wonder too.

If it was thousands of years ago "evidence" could have simply eroded away but only 500 years ago?
Stretching but you could argue it was then destroyed by allies to stop the technology being recovered by us simply folk at the time. I mean they did it with the black helicopters during the osama bin ladin raid so why couldnt they here?

originally posted by: sixpaque
This hole site is about the unexplained and this interesting story was documented, truth, fiction or someplace in-between? I heard and read manuscripts about that story when I was 12, and that was a long time ago. So believing some of this sH*&% is in my DNA. 😀 Watch for my story on crop circles, truth or fiction??? a reply to: LABTECH767

Shall do, I am inclined on that subject to believe that it is 60/40, some crop circles are manmade, but some are truly unexplainable unless we do attribute them to some other intelligence.

Seen a UFO myself and may have seen more as a child but childhood memories are not reliable so leaving them out it was nothing too interesting just an unilluminated object that was reflecting the old orange sodium streetlights we had back then (like a mirror or shiny metal under belly no self-illumination) surface, circular or spherical I could not say and dipping in and out of cloud in the early hours of the morning about 2.30 to 3am or so as I walked home from work one night over here in West Lancashire in the UK over a small village called Westhead between the towns of Ormskirk and Skelmersdale, it was flying Against the wind which was blowing a gale and in the direction of the nearby Pilkington laboratories, I would guestimate between two to four hundred feet up, the only reason I saw it was because I sensed it for lack of a better way of describing it, like when you feel someone watching you and you turn to look I stared right at it and if anything I gave whatever was in it a shock as it darted off as soon as I looked up directly at it, I could only follow it for a short ways as it flew off so fast.

Folklore stories a reply to: Spacespider

interesting OP

i went through the many documented events collected by Jaques Vallee
and even discarding the superficial ones ,
many "torches" and "battles" and "piillars of fire" "moving from east to west" seem credible
over the past 2000 years
[in fact until the 1800 ds]

(138) nr 124 1322 AD UK
a fiery pillar in the night sky , out of the frond came a red flame w/ beams of light ,
speed increased , sounds of combat [nuremberg]
nr 125 1347 AD Italy
cigar-shaped object crossed sky ; causing the plague (? comp 166 below)
many animals fell dead from the sky [research]
(150) nr 145 1456 AD Italy
4 stars almost forming a cross moved from east to west [see nuremberg]