Kremlin Urges Global Response Over Shelling of Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Plant

(Reuters) -The Kremlin said on Monday it was concerned by what it said was repeated Ukrainian shelling of the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant and called on global powers to ensure that Kyiv ceased attacks on Europe's largest nuclear power station.

Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, which is under Russian control, was rocked by shelling on Sunday, drawing condemnation from the U.N. nuclear watchdog which said such attacks risked a major disaster.

"This cannot but cause our concern," Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters. "We call on all countries of the world to use their influence so that the Ukrainian armed forces stop doing this."

Kremlin Urges Global Response Over Shelling of Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Plant

Will it matter anymore if one of these sides manages to cause Chernobyl 2.0?

I'm not too concerned about which side is doing this, more concerned with how insane it is and what the disastrous outcome might be.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Everyone retreats, a buffer zone is created and the site handed to UN peacekeepers then the relevant international agencies shut the site down.

I can't possibly see what's wrong with my suggestion. That's sarcasm btw, I could write pages on why neither side would accept an idealistic compromise.

a reply to: MykeNukem

I don't know who's doing it, but you have to be seriously worried about the mental stability of anyone who would intentionally target a nuclear reactor.

sh** could get real bad, real fast.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: MykeNukem

I don't know who's doing it, but you have to be seriously worried about the mental stability of anyone who would intentionally target a nuclear reactor.

sh** could get real bad, real fast.

For sure.

This is absolute insanity, without even bringing sides into it.

Though, Russia has no reason to do this, at least none that I could fathom, but that's for another thread, lol.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: MykeNukem

I don't know who's doing it, but you have to be seriously worried about the mental stability of anyone who would intentionally target a nuclear reactor.

sh** could get real bad, real fast.

Especially Russian built reactors that look like they don't have containment towers like those required in the west

It's hard for me to believe some so-so comedian is in chagre of this fiasco. The whole thing screams of pure politics and 'destroy Russia on the world front BAMN' being directed by a country with a very long history of playing dirty to remain dominant.

How anyone can honestly believe the Russian is delibertly destroying themselves is a mystery to me.

Occams razor. Nobody in Ukraine is directing this war against Russia. Two world powers are squaring off, and the more one of them resorts to dity tactics, the greater the chance that the other will eventually so the same.

a reply to: MykeNukem

It would fit with Russia's strategy of destroying infrastructure, wouldn't it?

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: MykeNukem

It would fit with Russia's strategy of destroying infrastructure, wouldn't it?

Most is Russia's anyway .

a reply to: Gothmog

Most of what?

Russian Disinformation!

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: MykeNukem

It would fit with Russia's strategy of destroying infrastructure, wouldn't it?

The plant is within Russian held territory 500km from Chernobyl, so, no, that doesn't fit.

Not sure if it's currently in operational status, but they could easily shut off power transmission from it, if that's what they wanted to do.

a reply to: MykeNukem

But they destroyed the infrastructure in Kherson too before they retreated, when it was still under their control. So how is this different? And I don't know what Chernobyl has to do with it? Not even in use anymore.

a reply to: MykeNukem

After getting caught lying about the Ukrainian missile bombing Poland and risking a nuclear war...should we believe Zelenskyy and his military command when they deny they are now shelling nuke plants?

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: MykeNukem

But they destroyed the infrastructure in Kherson too before they retreated, when it was still under their control. So how is this different? And I don't know what Chernobyl has to do with it? Not even in use anymore.

How is it different???

Literally killing their own troops w radiation and causing a massive strategic problem while trying to maintain a war footing that's how

Makes no sense for Russia to do this

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

Literally killing their own troops w radiation

That did not happen. They did not destroy the reactor itself or even shell it afaik. Other parts of the plant got damaged. So it makes no sense for you to say this:

Makes no sense for Russia to do this

Because it didn't happen. I'm talking about things that happened.

🤦‍♂️you asked how it was different....

Thats how it would be different. They wouldn't shell their own plant and risk that outcome

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: MykeNukem

After getting caught lying about the Ukrainian missile bombing Poland and risking a nuclear war...should we believe Zelenskyy and his military command when they deny they are now shelling nuke plants?

Nope. I don't believe any of them. Especially after the fast one Zelensky tried pulling on us.

But the only way it makes sense to me, is if Ukraine is doing it and blaming Russia, so they can whine and cry for more money and assistance, or more Western/NATO involvement. That makes sense to me.

If Russia did it, that doesn't make sense to me. Why create a nuclear waste land from there to the other side of Chernobyl? While risking the intervention of the West/NATO? Makes no sense.

I'd say a nuclear plant meltdown incident would escalate this pretty quickly and that doesn't benefit Russia in any way I can see.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

I don't know what your problem is with what I asked. I'm just trying to focus on reality here and not speculate about alternate history scenarios where Russian troops got radiated.

Thats how it would be different. They wouldn't shell their own plant and risk that outcome

How that would that be different for Ukraine by the way? Are you aware that the plant is very close to both sides? Just some water separating it from Ukrainian troops. The freaking atoms don't care if it's Russia's "own" plant right now. The fallout would spread to a wider area.

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask
"Makes no sense for Russia to do this"

Russia seems to be in the habit of doing stuff that on the face of it,makes no sense-at least to many of us.

Of course,we are not told the whole picture,we just get a narative etched in granite which shall not be altered-so what does not make sense,may make sense if we knew the whole truth.

The shelling of ZPP has been done by both sides according to the UN-which seems to usually be very pro Ukrainian-so in this case its pretty certain the Ukrainians have attacked the plant at some time.

We know Ukraine has been talking about a possible "Black Swan" event-although I think such events are something that cannot be planned for or prepared for-rather than something which is planned.

A planned attack resulting in ZPP releasing a radioactive cloud could therfore be seen as more of a false flag than a black swan-if Russia gets blamed,wouldn't than mean a whole load of newer more advanced weaponry for Ukraine?

I'm not saying its right-But I think most countries,when faced with such a huge enemy would pull the same kind of stunts if they thought it would give them a fighting chance of survival.

Its a desperate and risky strategy though.

a reply to: Silcone Synapse

I concur that's a very real possibility at this point its hard to sift through whose doing what because they both play those cards so often

I also agree about the black swan definition I saw that too and thought the same thing