Who's interested in learning how to fly - underwater?

As people begin to think about the future of air flight and the possibilities of having a "flying car", there are meanwhile people working to advance human presence in the sea - not on the sea, but in it.

www.biganimals.com...



This link offers a chance for training on a flying submersible many of you have read about in the past. This is just a reminder it hasn't gone away and continues to be another craft for sea exploration.

I posted this here because it didn't seem to fit anywhere else. To the moderators, my apologies and feel free to relocate as necessary. These craft are really more like planes than subs.

Here is the original site for the vehicles:

www.deepflight.com...

Wow those subs can fly? Pretty cool

Yeah, they rely on dynamic lift to support them underwater, and are extreamly manouvrable

built by hawkes engineering

When I come across a robot that turns into a car that then turns into a cement mixer, I'll post that link for you.

Amphibious craft that can both fly and "swim"...i'm looking into it.

There have been a few R&D efforts to develop a sub that can really fly.

There is a link in Russian which detailed this 1938 effort, as well as some others.

Also, this

Those are very common concepts. They are known as surface-effect or wing-effect craft. Almost similar in principle are hydrofoils and some variations of hovercrafts. When I was a kid, I also read about US Navy's plans for a Surface Effect Ship (SES) that was supposed to do about 200 knots while being as big as a small ship.

it flies in the fact that it doesnt use changes in its buoyancy to submerge and surface. Instead it relies on dynamic forces from the fins. There is nothing in physics that says you can only fly in air!!!!

Exactly... It doesnt use balast to change immersion but water flux on control surfaces, like an aircraft would do in air flux.

It's not (as granitehead told b4) a tranformer that can fly aswell in air and underwater
It would be cool, but state of the art technology doesn't permit this... First because the density of water is far over the density of air

Even sub launched missiles use powder propeller to get out of water, and then split from the booster to launch a reactor and deploy wings.

A thing to invent!

This topic is exactly what I planned to write about.

In USA, there were interesting project by Convair division of General Dynamics for submersible navy aircraft. Parking underwater is very usefull to protect against nuclear attack.

Here is original picture:




And my drawing:

Dear all,

The concept of "flying" underwater was dealt with in a novel called "Steel Albatross". It was written by Mercury astronaut, Scott Carpenter, who also worked on Sealab.

Cheers

BHR

It has been dealt with by many people on many occassions

Paper,

I am sure it has, I was just bringing that book to the attention of the others.

Cheers

BHR

I saw the demo of this machine on one of the discovery channels, just a few days ago..

Quick, and manuverable. Easy to drive (pilot?)
And compared to other submersible types, this looks to be much more intuitive, as far as the learning process goes.

Also, I f remember correctly, time spent on bottom can be increased..Mainly because you can get down there in a more timely fashion..

I am also putting this on my Christmas list if anyone is feeling generous..

Spaced?

Any pics or links for us to view?

Cheers

BHR

Originally posted by BillHicksRules
Spaced?

Any pics or links for us to view?

Cheers

BHR

plenty on www.deepflight.com

Paper,

Thanks for that. They like like fun machines

Cheers

BHR

The underwater flight thing sounds interesting, but for people like my wife and I, it's simply not feasible. I am a "casual diver" with PADI OW and underwater photography certifications; but my wife is only one course away from Master Diver. We dive every chance we get, mostly in Mexico.

But I don't know anyone who can toss away fifteen thousand bucks to ride a submersible in the back seat. And to be honest, I think you'd have a lot more fun at 60-100 feet with nothing on but a tank, BC. and maybe a shorty wet suit. You can see lots of big critters, including whale sharks, blue whales, sea turtles, sea lions, rays, etc. And the total cost (including certification and equipment rentals) is less than ten percent of what you'd pay for a ride in the "underwater airplane".

Originally posted by BillHicksRules
Paper,

Thanks for that. They like like fun machines

Cheers

BHR

the link was in the initial posting too, and by all accounts the are, i remember seeing footage of one doing a near vertical dive over an underwater canyon. Shape the pilot school isnt cheeper.

Paper,

I am sure that over time they will come down in cost.

Just like air flying.

Cheers

BHR

we can only hope that they do. The other problem is that they are only really of use in clear water as their most advanced sensor is the mk. 1 eyeball.