This Guy Just Threw the Senate Election Into Chaos From His Basement

Any system that encourages the silencing of a single platform from an individual should be wholly, and utterly, REJECTED. And that is basically what we have now. A self-reinforcing feedback loop of a two party system, complete with pundits who will gladly spend millions, if not billions to keep it that way. BAD BAD BAD.

To those voting libertarian or green, your votes DID matter, even if you keep losing. And this guy just proved that. People need to vote on their conscience, and not be intimidated by big money. Only then will the system change.

originally posted by: Nyiah

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: chiefsmom
Good for him.

I wish more people would get involved.
The two party system is broken. Money buys the vote.

And seen yesterday, at least in MI., BS fear campaigns rule the day.

We are screwed, if we don't grow a set.

And , in what way would a 3 or 4 or 5 party be different ?

Well, I don't know about others, but I'd like to think that the prospect of more # sammiches to choose from in the mix, would yield higher odds of one of them actually being a palatable -- and non-e.coli inducing -- # sammich for once.

But I guess if you think Maruchan is fine, why try some other brand of crud food, eh?

Nope.
You do know that the US already has about 6 parties , yes ?
Careful , I do throw trick questions in every now and then
We even had "the rent's too high party" one year.

a reply to: Maxmars

I agree with you Wholeheartedly and I Do not want to burn it all down that is a terrible decision with an even more terrible outcome I say again NOT what I want.

Our core system the one that was founded by our Revolutionary Founding fathers is enough and we simply need to reestablish that core system . Now I know there is no going back things do not work like that . But that's not to say we cant take what once was and make it Modernized and more palatable for the Society we have to day.

Socialism does not work and yet there are so many people pushing to take this Capitalist master piece and make it socialist . I would ask why but I fear the only answer I would get is " Your a Bigot " .

You may feel motivated to express your passionate disapproval - but let it not include harm.

Clearly you've never made an Omelet.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: chiefsmom
Good for him.

I wish more people would get involved.
The two party system is broken. Money buys the vote.

And seen yesterday, at least in MI., BS fear campaigns rule the day.

We are screwed, if we don't grow a set.

And , in what way would a 3 or 4 or 5 party be different ?

We need a NO party system. People get randomly selected in advance, we vet them down to 4 or 5 and have an election. Thus keeping it down to real people not some shill for big corporations or Federal Agencies. The winners who occupy the state legislatures would then vote for US Senate like the old days. Then the Senators, like the Representatives can be held accountable every two years in the state legislatures. Forcing them to do the state legislatures requests over the D or R party.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: chiefsmom
Good for him.

I wish more people would get involved.
The two party system is broken. Money buys the vote.

And seen yesterday, at least in MI., BS fear campaigns rule the day.

We are screwed, if we don't grow a set.

And , in what way would a 3 or 4 or 5 party be different ?

We need a NO party system. People get randomly selected in advance, we vet them down to 4 or 5 and have an election. Thus keeping it down to real people not some shill for big corporations or Federal Agencies. The winners who occupy the state legislatures would then vote for US Senate like the old days. Then the Senators, like the Representatives can be held accountable every two years in the state legislatures. Forcing them to do the state legislatures requests over the D or R party.

What I am trying to say , people will be people no matter the party .
You have some good , some bad everywhere .

There would be no change in any case .

a reply to: putnam6

Well, if we had the balls to vote anyone out that was an incombant, and let them know we would keep doing that until they got the message that it would keep happening until they voted the way their people wanted them to vote, it would happen.

May take 4 to 8 to 12 years, but it would sink in.

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: Gothmog

originally posted by: chiefsmom
Good for him.

I wish more people would get involved.
The two party system is broken. Money buys the vote.

And seen yesterday, at least in MI., BS fear campaigns rule the day.

We are screwed, if we don't grow a set.

And , in what way would a 3 or 4 or 5 party be different ?

We need a NO party system. People get randomly selected in advance, we vet them down to 4 or 5 and have an election. Thus keeping it down to real people not some shill for big corporations or Federal Agencies. The winners who occupy the state legislatures would then vote for US Senate like the old days. Then the Senators, like the Representatives can be held accountable every two years in the state legislatures. Forcing them to do the state legislatures requests over the D or R party.

What I am trying to say , people will be people no matter the party .
You have some good , some bad everywhere .

There would be no change in any case .

I agree with that. I think my idea would make it where the elite entrenched in society to keep "theirs" would have to do without. They can be rich, they just can't control the Earth and all things on it.
ETA

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: putnam6

Well, if we had the balls to vote anyone out that was an incombant, and let them know we would keep doing that until they got the message that it would keep happening until they voted the way their people wanted them to vote, it would happen.

May take 4 to 8 to 12 years, but it would sink in.

That is a good plan. We have to bring a pair though as you stated.

a reply to: FowlerstoadI did not return any sort of judgment against anarchist in my statement I simply stated that this person demonstrates the behavior of an anarchist more than a libertarian and I pointed out the fact that it is a indeed fine line after all.

a reply to: machineintelligence

Hey, yeah that makes sense to me now. You are more discerning than most ...

originally posted by: putnam6
When you think about it, this probably is a good thing, perhaps we need to add the 2nd and 3rd choice to our elections like I believe Alaska does. As well as cap spending and decrease that threshold of 50% because now virtually every 3rd part candidate could force an expensive and delaying runoff

on a side note, Warnock and Walker spent a quarter billion that crazy in itself


www.vice.com...

Yes, he knows a lot of people are now frustrated that, by scoring 2 percent of the Senate vote in Georgia, he may have just kept Democratic Sen. Raphael Warnock or GOP candidate Herschel Walker from the 50 percent threshold needed to win, forcing a runoff on Dec. 6. Because Senate control now hangs on three uncalled toss-up states—Georgia, Arizona, and Nevada—the runoff he helped cause could be the whole shebang.

For Oliver, who supports gun rights, legal weed, access to abortion, and immigration reform—and who detests America’s two-party duopoly—this runoff smells like sweet success.

“I knew when I started this campaign, I wanted to force a runoff to force these issues, and I think I succeeded,” Oliver told VICE News in an interview on Wednesday morning, as votes were still being counted. “Could I have done better? Absolutely. But I think I did very well, all things considered.”

It’s hard to overstate how outgunned Oliver’s DIY campaign was, considering its tectonic impact. His mainstream opponents spent almost a quarter-billion dollars blanketing Georgia’s airwaves with attack ads and driving their supporters to the polls. Millions of dollars flooded their accounts from New York, California, Texas, and Florida.

November 12, 2022

Will OLIVER send his supporters (2% of the voters) to WARNOCK or to WALKER?

Analysis: www.msn.com...

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: putnam6

Well, if we had the balls to vote anyone out that was an incombant, and let them know we would keep doing that until they got the message that it would keep happening until they voted the way their people wanted them to vote, it would happen.

May take 4 to 8 to 12 years, but it would sink in.

It could never work that way.

First and foremost, the elections process itself must be fixed. Until that happens, no election can even be trusted to properly reflect 'the will of the people'.

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chiefsmom
a reply to: putnam6

Well, if we had the balls to vote anyone out that was an incombant, and let them know we would keep doing that until they got the message that it would keep happening until they voted the way their people wanted them to vote, it would happen.

May take 4 to 8 to 12 years, but it would sink in.

It could never work that way.

First and foremost, the elections process itself must be fixed. Until that happens, no election can even be trusted to properly reflect 'the will of the people'.

11.27.2022 -Update-

Senator Raphael Warnock's re-election campaign has been busted (again) for gathering votes OUTSIDE OF GEORGIA, which is illegal.

Source: redstate.com...

Nothing was done about it in 2020...we'll see if Georgia Republican leaders have more guts, and investigate these activities, this time around.