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posted on Jul, 23 2003 @ 08:43 PM
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Hey, ive had quite a few obe's over the past year, i get them 3 times a week usually at around 3 or 4 in the morning. Usually im dreaming and the dream fades out and im aware that im in my bed, but im always in the paralysis state which freaks me out because its always so sudden, but theres always a pitched buzzing sound in my head that gets louder and louder then i can feel myself floating out of my body slowly, as i float out i hear a really high pitched ripping sound and then im out, i have to admit though its so easy to move around you just have to think where you want to go and you automatically float there. Ive never seen any entities though, i sometimes wake up in the sleep paralysis with the high pitched sound and when i try to move my astral/etheric body moves like its in slow motion or something anyone ever experience this? Also when i have obe's in the morning when its dark, its always dark in the astral, if i have one during the day its daytime in the astral.



posted on Jul, 23 2003 @ 11:44 PM
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"How to induce an OBE?"

Imagery Techniques

It is possible to use imagery alone but it requires considerable skill. a) Lie on your back in a comfortable position and relax. Imagine that you are floating up off the bed. Hold that position, slightly lifted, for some time until you lose all sensation of touching the bed or floor. Once this state is achieved move slowly into an upright position and begin to travel away from your body and around the room. Pay attention to the objects and details of the room. Only when you have gained some proficiency should you try to turn round and look at your own body. Note that each stage may take months of practice and it can be too difficult for any but a practiced OBEer.

b) In any comfortable position close your eyes and imagine that there is a duplicate of yourself standing in front of you. You will find that it is very hard to imagine your own face, so it is easier to imagine this double with its back to you. You should try to observe all the details of its posture, dress (if any) and so on. As this imaginary double becomes more and more solid and realistic you may experience some uncertainty about your physical position. You can encourage this feeling by comtemplating the question 'Where am I?', or even other similar questions 'Who am I?' and so on. Once the double is clear and stable and you are relaxed, transfer your consciousness into it. You should then be able to 'project' in this phantom created by your own imagination. Again, each stage may take long practice.


Ophiel's 'Little System'

Ophiel [Oph61] suggests that you pick a familiar route, perhaps between two rooms in your house, and memorize every detail of it. Choose at least six points along it and spend several minutes each day looking at each one and memorizing it. Symbols, scents and sounds associated with the points can reinforce the image. Once you have committed the route and all the points to memory you should lie down and relax while you attempt to 'project' to the first point. If the preliminary work has been done well you should be able to move from point to point and back again. Later you can start the imaginary journey from the chair or bed where your body is, and you can then either observe yourself doing the movements, or transfer your consciousness to the one that is doing the moving. Ophiel describes further possibilities, but essentially if you have mastered the route fully in your imagination you will be able to project along it and with practice to extend the projection.

Ophiel states that starting to move into OBE will produce strange sounds. He says that this is because the sense of hearing is not carried over onto the higher planes, and that means that your mind tries to recreate some input, and just gets subconscious static. He asserts that the noises can take any form, including voices, malevolent, eerie, and get worse and worse, more and more disturbing, until eventually they peak and then just fade to a constant background hiss while one has OBE. Apparently, his 'final noise' sounded like his water heater blowing up. He says, anyway, to ignore the noises, voice or otherwise, as they are only static or subconscious rambling, and do not represent any being in any way, not even the self really.

The Christos Technique

G. M. Glasking, an Australian journalist, popularized this technique in several books, starting with Windows of the Mind [Gla74]. Three people are needed: one as subject, and two to prepare him. The subject lies down comfortably on his back in a warm and darkened room. One helper massages the subject's feet and ankles, quite firmly, even roughly, while the other take his head. Placing the soft part of his clenched fist on the subject's forehead he rubs it vigorously for several minutes. This should make the subject's head buzz and hum, and soon he should begin to feel slightly disorientated. His feet tingle and his body may feel light or floaty, or changing shape.

When this stage is reached, the imagery exercises begin. The subject is asked to imagine his feet stretching out and becoming longer by just an inch or so. When he says he can do this he has to let them go back to normal and do the same with his head, stretching it out beyond its normal position. Then, alternating all the time between head and feet, the distance is gradually increased until he can stretch both out to two feet or more. At this stage it should be possible for him to imagine stretching out both at once, making him very long indeed, and then to swell up, filling the room like a huge balloon. All this will, of course, be easier for some people than others. It should be taken at whatever pace is needed until each stage is successful. Some people complete this part in five minutes, some people take more than fifteen minutes.

Next he is asked to imagine he is outside his own front door. He should describe everything he can see in detail, with the colors, materials of the door and walls, the ground, and the surrounding scenery. He has then to rise above the house until he can see across the surrounding countryside or city. To show him that the scene is all under his control he should be asked to change it from day to night and back again, watching the sun set and rise, and the lights go on or off. Finally he is asked to fly off, and land wherever he wishes. For most subjects their imagery has become so vivid by this stage that they land somewhere totally convincing and are easily able to describe all that they see.

You may wonder how the experience comes to an end, but usually no prompting is required; the subject will suddenly announce 'I'm here,' or 'Oh, I'm back,' and he will usually retain quite a clear recollection of all he said and experienced. But it is a good idea to take a few minutes relaxing and getting back to normal. It is interesting that this technique seems to be very effective in disrupting the subject's normal image of his body. It then guides and strengthens his own imagery while keeping his body calm and relaxed.

Robert Monroe's Method

In his book Journeys out of the Body [Mon71] Monroe describes a complicated-sounding technique for inducing OBEs. In part it is similar to other imagination methods, but it starts with induction of the 'vibrational state.' Many spontaneous OBEs start with a feeling of shaking or vibrating, and Monroe deliberately induces this state first. He suggests you do the following. First lie down in a darkened room in any comfortable position, but with your head pointing to magnetic north. Loosen clothing and remove any jewellery or metal objects, but be sure to stay warm. Ensure that you will not be disturbed and are not under any limitation of time. Begin by relaxing and then repeat to yourself five times, 'I will consciously perceive and remember all that I encounter during this relaxation procedure. I will recall in detail when I am completely awake only those matters which will be beneficial to my physical and mental being.' Then begin breathing through your half-open mouth.

The next step involves entering the state bordering sleep (the hypnagogic state). Monroe does not recommend any particular method of achieving this state. One method you might try is to hold your forearm up, while keeping your upper arm on the bed, or ground. As you start to fall asleep, your arm will fall, and you will awaken again. With practice you can learn to control the hypnagogic state without using your arm. Another method is to concentrate on an object. When other images start to enter your thoughts, you have entered the hypnagogic state. Passively watch these images. This will also help you maintain this state of near-sleep. Monroe calls this Condition A.

After first achieving this state Monroe recommends to deepen it. Begin to clear your mind and observe your field of vision through your closed eyes. Do nothing more for a while. Simply look through your closed eyelids at the blackness in front of you. After a while, you may notice light patterns. These are simply neural discharges and they have no specific effect. Ignore them. When they cease, one has entered what Monroe calls Condition B. From here, one must enter an even deeper state of relaxation which Monroe calls Condition C -- a state of such relaxation that you lose all awareness of the body and sensory stimulation. You are almost in a void in which your only source of stimulation will be your own thoughts. The ideal state for leaving your body is Condition D. This is Condition C when it is voluntarily induced from a rested and refreshed condition and is not the effect of normal fatigue. To achieve Condition D, Monroe suggests that you practice entering it in the morning or after a short nap.

With eyes closed look into the blackness at a spot about a foot from your forehead, concentrating your consciousness on that point. Move it gradually to three feet away, then six, and then turn it 90 degrees upward, reaching above your head. Monroe orders you to reach for the vibrations at that spot and then mentally pull them into your head. He explains how to recognize them when they occur. 'It is as if a surging, hissing, rhythmically pulsating wave of fiery sparks comes roaring into your head. From there it seems to sweep throughout your body, making it rigid and immobile.' This method is easier than it sounds.

Once you have achieved the vibrational state you have to learn to control it, to smooth out the vibrations by 'pulsing' them. At this point, Monroe warns it is impossible to turn back. He suggests reaching out an arm to grasp some object which you know is out of normal reach. Feel the object and then let your hand pass through it, before bringing it back, stopping the vibrations and checking the details and location of the object. This exercise will prepare you for full separation.

To leave the body Monroe advocates the 'lift-out' method. To employ this method think of getting lighter and of how nice it would be to float upwards. An alternative is the 'rotation' technique in which you turn over in bed, twisting first the top of the body, head and shoulders until you turn right over and float upwards. Later you can explore further. With sufficient practice Monroe claims that a wide variety of experiences are yours for the taking.

Dream Development

Many OBEs start from dreams and since, by definition, one has to be conscious to have an OBE, they tend to start from lucid dreams. The dreamer may become aware that he is dreaming and then find himself in some place other than his bed and able to move about at will. He may have another body and may even attempt to see his physical body lying asleep. This topic is covered separately in the later section on lucid dreams.

Palmer's Experimental Method

In the search for a simple and effective method of inducing an OBE Palmer and his colleagues [PL75a, 75b, 76, PV74a, 74b] use relaxation and audio- visual stimulation. Subjects went through a progressive muscular relaxation session and the heard oscillating tones and watched a rotating spiral. One of the interesting findings was that many of the subjects claimed that they had been 'literally out of' their bodies, and there were indications that their experiences were very different in some ways from other those encountered in OBEs.

[Edited on 24-7-2003 by Toltec]



posted on Jul, 28 2003 @ 10:00 PM
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Thanks toltec for the indepth of how to do OBE's. I will try some of those different methods and hope one of them works.

A question for any one who has had a lot of OBE's. Should i only stay in my house when i am out of my body? I really want to go to other places kind of like remote viewing.



posted on Jul, 31 2003 @ 10:50 PM
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Ilovepizza would sugest that its a big universe out there go where ever you can.

Would as well add the following technuiqe...

Meditation and Chakra Meditation

Meditation has two basic functions -- achieving relaxation and improving concentration. Therefore the ideal state for OBE is familiar to meditators and indeed OBEs have occasionally been reported during meditation and yoga. The two main types of meditation are concentration meditation (focusing) and insight meditation (mindfullness). Most kinds of meditation are the concentrative type. One simply focuses his attention upon a single physical object, such as a candle flame; upon a sensation, such as that felt while walking or breathing; upon an emotion, such as reverence or love; upon a mantra spoken aloud or even silently; or upon a visualization as in chakra meditation. Concentration meditation is, simply put, a form of self-hypnosis.
The other main type of meditation, insight meditation, is the analysis of thoughts and feelings in such a way as to cause realization of the subjectivity and illusion of experience. Such meditation is done in an effort to attain transcendental awareness.

Chakra meditation is a special type of concentrative meditation which is basically kundalini yoga -- the practice of causing psychic energy (kundalini) to flow up sushumna, energizing the various chakras along the way. A chakra is 'a sense organ of the ethereal body, visible only to a clairvoyant' [Gay74]. As each chakra is energized by this practice, it is believed to add occult powers (sidhis), until at last the crown chakra is reached, and with it, full enlightenment is attained.

According to East Indian philosophy, man possesses seven major chakras or psychic centers on his body. In theosophical scheme there are ten chakras, which permit those trained in their use to gain knowledge of the astral world (three of the ten are used in black magic only). Each of the chakras forms a bridge, link, or energy transformer; changing pure (higher) energy into various forms, and connecting different bodies together. The chakras are located along the nadies (a network of psychic nerves or channels) and follow the autonomic nervous system along the spinal cord.

The first chakra, located at the base of the spine at the perineum is the root chakra, muladhara. The second chakra, known as the sacral center, svadhisthana, is located above and behind the genitals. Third of the chakras is the solar plexus, manipura, located at the navel and it is said to correspond with the emotions and also with psychic sight (clairvoyance). The heart chakra, anahata, is the fourth chakra, located over the heart and corresponding with the psychic touch. The fifth chakra is the throat chakra, vishuddha, located at the base of the throat (thyroid) and corresponding with psychic hearing (clairaudience).

The remaining two chakras are believed to relate mostly to elevated states of consciousness. The frontal chakra, (or 'third eye') ajna, the sixth chakra, is located between, and slightly above, the eyebrows. Ajna is the center of psychic powers and it is believed to be able to produce many psychic effects. Finally, the crown chakra, sahasrara, located atop the head, (pineal gland) is the seventh chakra. It is referred to as the thousand-petaled lotus and corresponds with astral projection and enlightenment.

To practice this chakra meditation, you simply concentrate on the chakras, beginning with the root chakra, and moving progressively up, as you visualize psychic energy from the root chakra traveling up shushumna and vivifying each higher chakra. As mentioned above the chakras have certain properties associated with them, so that this type of visualization may 'raise consciousness,' promote astral projection, and other things -- once you have reached ajna and eventually the crown chakra.



posted on Jul, 31 2003 @ 10:57 PM
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What is it really? Does your "soul" leave your body?



posted on Aug, 1 2003 @ 12:01 AM
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That's a good question...

One potential answer is that your body is an aspect of all things. As such your soul or spirit from what you think is separate from you appears to leave you body.

But in reality what occurs is a redistribution of energy from what seems apparent to what is not.

What is not apparent is simply an extension of what is but appears not to be so.

We are bodies made of flesh but that also means we are bodies made of quarks (as they are defined in modern science). As a result what we do not see of ourselves is an inherent interconnectedness which from what we currently understand includes reversed time.

Any thoughts?



posted on Aug, 1 2003 @ 10:05 AM
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How can you go back to your body?



posted on Aug, 1 2003 @ 10:32 AM
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I only had it happen twice...

Once, I was beaten unconscious (when I got mugged), so I "lept" out. (at least I broke one of their noses and knocked him out too, hehe...)

The other time, me and the guys were fooling around, mock combat and such, and someone put a good sleeper hold on me, and I just "lept" out then too.

So, no set plan, just seems to happen when I get knocked unconscious, hehe...
Personally, it isn't a method I plan on practicing often...

I've tried other means, and so far, I can't seem to quite detach fully and go far from my body. I will say this though, that bit about the silver cord, I always thought was a load of bull....but it's there alright....go figure?



posted on Aug, 1 2003 @ 10:37 AM
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How do you get back? Other than dreams (where I simply see the path coming home), the other 2 times I mentioned, I never left eyesight with my actual body...but I did see the cord more vividly, whereas in dreams, the cord is extremely faint).

Sorry Mag, didn't read the whole thread.

During self-initiated attempts, I do feel a sinking, then detachment feeling...but I can never quite "break free" for some reason. During the 2 times I mentioned, I literally jumped out of my skin, and floated up (I remember fighting the urge to float higher and higher), and simply looked down on everything....talk about an epiphany....



posted on Aug, 1 2003 @ 07:04 PM
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As long as you are alive you never completly separate from your body. This is with respect to an extent that during any type of OBE you will be able to return.

[Edited on 2-8-2003 by Toltec]



posted on Aug, 2 2003 @ 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Gazrok
I only had it happen twice...

Once, I was beaten unconscious (when I got mugged), so I "lept" out. (at least I broke one of their noses and knocked him out too, hehe...)

The other time, me and the guys were fooling around, mock combat and such, and someone put a good sleeper hold on me, and I just "lept" out then too.

So, no set plan, just seems to happen when I get knocked unconscious, hehe...
Personally, it isn't a method I plan on practicing often...

I've tried other means, and so far, I can't seem to quite detach fully and go far from my body. I will say this though, that bit about the silver cord, I always thought was a load of bull....but it's there alright....go figure?


That would have been scary. I would have thought I died.



posted on May, 5 2009 @ 07:37 PM
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Hello,

I have had in the past oh Ten years or so and counting only about Seven times were I feel some have been

I hear and feel a loud vibration and can hear around me, But the last Two times I had the vibration and then I hear wind in my ear very srongly.
anyone else ?




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