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originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
What I said has zero to do with fear mongering and is straight facts.
The only fear mongering was for a virus with a 0.15% infection fatality rate with the rediculous sensationalism by the media. Then when people bring the facts you call THAT fear mongering.
originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
A 32 year old buddy of mine died of a heart attack on a plane to Bali over the weekend - He just got the booster to fly
originally posted by: DeviantMortal
Without going into two pages of details my wife and her dad have both been vaccinated. They both have a lot of other health issues and decided that the vaccine was worth the risk even if all it did was reduce the chances of hospitalization.
6 months later we all got the virus, it was rough for all of us. They had worse and longer lasting symptoms than me, but I have a naturally better immune system than them.
It doesn't do great at preventing me from getting sick. But I get over being sick quicker than most people I know.
Long story short, I know a lot of people who have gotten the jab, none of them are dead, yet.
I don't trust those who pushed the jab, I don't trust the jab, but at least in my circle I have not seen any evidence that it kills people. Let alone within 2 weeks.
The only thing I have noticed is that my wife seems to randomly have bouts of her heart beating rapidly, could be unrelated. She already some pre-existing heart issues.
originally posted by: AaarghZombies
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
All of these people dead, and yet absolutely none of them has a name?
A couple of years back some kid swallowed one of those batteries that looks like an old penny. Their parents were all over the media, the kid's name was in the papers, their picture was on TV, and their parents were holding press conferences.
In another case, a kid swallowed a couple of those miniature high powered magnets and they stuck together in their stomach. Same thing. Name and picture all over the media, parents taking interviews.
Man get's shot by cops during a felony, picture in all of the papers, parents giving interviews, gofundme for the funeral expenses.
Over and over again, person is killed or injured, name and picture in the media, family speaking out. Everybody who ever knew them is posting on social media.
Person dies right after getting vaxxed ... silence.
Who are these people who were apparently killed by the vax, how old were they, what were their histories, why is absolutely nobody who knew them talking about it?
Now, take the case of Lisa Shaw, a British journalist who we absolutely 100 percent know died after being vaxxed. A real person with a family and friends.
Here name and picture were all over the media for months. Her friends and family were demanding answers, the MSM were demanding answers, the British authorities pulled out all of the stops to find out what happened, and there was an inquest. I can even tell you the name of the coroner who conducted it, it was Karen Dilks, she ruled that the vax did indeed kill Lisa Shaw.
So, why is it that you can't come up with anything for all of those other people?
No one is forced to take aspirin to keep their job. Stop with the false equivalency. They make you sound stupid.
originally posted by: LordAhriman
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowedAnything "safe and effective" needs no pandering as it speaks for itself with 100 percent results. But that has not been observed, only "peddled".
Aspirin kills ~3000 people per year.
originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: fencesitter85
You might say that, I, couldn't possibly comment!
I won't give up on calling out this nonsense about his/her claim to know plenty of people who have dropped dead of PTSD because of "masks and lockdowns".
It truly is an absolute farce.
It is making this place a joke.
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
Vaccines were never needed.
originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: Saloon
Understand what?
There was something, natural or man made, spreading through the population that was causing deaths. Someone came up with a worst case scenario estimate that caused people to panic.
The cause was isolated and drug companies came up with vaccines and governments ok'ed their use.
They don't seem to work well but may have helped some and caused some people to have serious side effects, including death, everyone else seems to be unaffected.
Some are running around peddling doom porn in regards to the covid vaccines and some of us are not buying into it.
You come along and ask those who are not buying into the doom porn if we believe that those pushing them are doing so doing so out of their concern for the health and welfare of humanity? Some might and some might not but, in the grand scheme of things, what difference does it make?
1. You don't vaccinate during a pandemic. It allows for selection of viral mutants making the pandemic become prolonged.
2. Vaccines for respiratory viruses are garbage.
3. It's not a vaccine, it's an experimental gene therapy that was never properly tested.
4. Vaccines require 10 years of safety data.
5. By the time it was available it was obsolete, using a spike protein for an older strain.
6. The spike protein is a horrible choice for an antigen as it takes the worst part of the corona virus and pumps fragments into all over the body and allows mrna via LNPs to go anywhere which allow any cell to be spike protein production factories.
7. The synthetic mrna doesn't breakdown like it's supposed to and spike proteins have been observed being produced many months after injection unlike the virus.
8. The virus has a 0.15% infection fatality rate which is ridiculously low compared to real pandemics and does not require a stupid vaccine like this
9. Darpa admitted via classified leaked documents that the government knew ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine were curative for covid 19, there was already a known cure.
10... blah blah blah it's the dumbest sh# I've ever seen
originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
originally posted by: Ravenwatcher
a reply to: v1rtu0s0
A 32 year old buddy of mine died of a heart attack on a plane to Bali over the weekend - He just got the booster to fly
Sorry to hear. The new normal is for 32 year olds to die from heart attacks. The astronomical chance that it could happen means it can happen all the time and everyone pretends its normal.
What vaccines historically have been tested for ten years before being used? Where does it state that the rule is for a vaccine to be tested for 10 years prior to approval?
There is no typical length of time it takes for a drug to be tested and approved. It might take 10 to 15 years or more to complete all 3 phases of clinical trials before the licensing stage. But this time span varies a lot.
The creation of a vaccine involves scientists and medical experts from around the world, and it usually requires 10 to 15 years of research before the vaccine is made available to the general public.
3 different websites..........easy to find.
Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years, and involves a combination of public and private involvement.
Does this also mean that an extremely deadly infectious pathogen, say one likely to wipe out the human race in 5-10 years, should wait until the species is entirely dead, before roll-out of a vaccine?
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: chr0naut
What vaccines historically have been tested for ten years before being used? Where does it state that the rule is for a vaccine to be tested for 10 years prior to approval?
There is no typical length of time it takes for a drug to be tested and approved. It might take 10 to 15 years or more to complete all 3 phases of clinical trials before the licensing stage. But this time span varies a lot.
The creation of a vaccine involves scientists and medical experts from around the world, and it usually requires 10 to 15 years of research before the vaccine is made available to the general public.
3 different websites..........easy to find.
Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years, and involves a combination of public and private involvement.
Does this also mean that an extremely deadly infectious pathogen, say one likely to wipe out the human race in 5-10 years, should wait until the species is entirely dead, before roll-out of a vaccine?
Why do you think it usually takes 10-15 years?
I am not saying that it will......but how can you be sure that the cure won't do want you think it will prevent?
If the average age of a covid death is 82 (according to FOI) ........I don't think covid is an extremely deadly infectious pathogen.
And working at that speed....it was not tested to see if it stopped transmission.