A Humble Message of Support to ATS Members

This message to you all is again talked in another tongue. It is GOD telling you through Buffy Sainte Marie.I am passing it on. Buffy is singing what I believe and this song has the kind of feeling and spirit necessary to approach our struggles in this life with intelligence, honesty and TRUE FEELING! It is a song for honest people about the Big Guys who are doing this to their lives and our lives too. It is a case of abuse. It can't be called anything other than that. They are just the mob and the whole world is their turf. If there is no democracy and no choice then all there is is brute power with no accountability. They are accountable though to the The Most High and will not escape justice.

This is how the world works on every level. If you tell any truth you will be cancel cultured in one way or another. Jesus got cancelled on the cross. Stephen got cancelled with stones. Peter and Paul got cancelled at Rome. "Everybody must get stoned", said Bob Dylan. John Lennon got cancelled. MLK got cancelled. Haile Selassie got cancelled. JFK and RK got cancelled. Abraham Lincoln got cancelled. Buffy got cancelled too. She was blacklisted and could no longer work in the U.S for a long time.

All it takes is a few minutes listening to this and you will know. Canada, you should be well proud of this great visionary. She wrote the very big songs "Love Lift Us Up" and "Until It's Time for You to Go". They really ripped her off over it too. She is too humble to say it. They all got their fame and stardom from her songs and did not even pay her properly for them. They made all that money and she got pennies in comparison.

It is about being framed for telling the truth. It exposes the corruption of modern politics and commerce. It's a dirty world run by dirty people; Herods and Caesars, Attilas and Khans, with only lip service ever paid to law:



"Hey, baby I just got back from town
Where the bribes are paid
Honey, they turned my offer down
They say the deal's already made
So now I gotta stand and watch
While it all comes down
And the buzzards and the hawks
And the judges and the mob
Circle round
Now if I were the queen of all the world
I would go in chains just to see you free
Of the ropes that bind you
And the role you play
And the pride that hooks you
While the big ones get away
Love junkies wanna change the world
It quickly stays the same
Money junkies hire all the smart ones
Power junkies run the game
One step at a time
Polarity Hill
If the bad guys don't get you, baby
Then the good guys will
With angels on the take
And the gangsters in the yard
Hey, don't the wars come easy?
Hey, don't the peace come hard?
Now if I had a way to reach the sky
I'd grab that crescent moon
Wield it like a knife
Save you from the lies
From the ropes that bind you
And the role you play
And the game that hooks you
While the big ones get away," by Buffy Sainte Marie

Thank you T.

a reply to: Tarantula777

Why was she blacklisted from the US?

A song from an imaginary invisible friend? What ever makes you get up in the morning I suppose...

a reply to: Tarantula777

Wow, powerful-beautiful, and perfectly represents exactly what is happening in the world today.

As a Canadian, ashamed to admit that until I just watched a few videos now I couldn't have told you as single song she wrote.

Wow, what power in this woman. I ended up sobbing. It was nuts, all because I thought if I'm having a horrendous time coping with the current system imagine what it's doing to the indigenous with their past. Not even talking about the historical atrocities but what the government did to all of us recently. The lockdowns and coercion we were bullied by for two years and they had experienced it for two hundred or so already.

Yet, out of it all that historical torture comes her beautiful voice and message that applies to all of us, regardless of race or culture.

Sure puts a new light on "everyone must get stoned"

Thank you Tarantula. This was really cool.

originally posted by: Kurokage
A song from an imaginary invisible friend? What ever makes you get up in the morning I suppose...

Why the mean comments? Don't like the music, then move on would be a healthier approach.

I've tried a couple times before to understand this members posts and didn't get it til now. To be honest, I saw the word God and thought this isn't for me, but the concept of energy and spirit of good in this world aligns with me.

a reply to: Tarantula777

Great lyrics let down by a boring flaccid backing track.

I’m curious to listen to more of her work though.

originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: Tarantula777

Why was she blacklisted from the US?

Wiki

Blacklisting
Sainte-Marie said in a 2008 interview at the National Museum of the American Indian[48] that she had been blacklisted by American radio stations and that she, along with Native Americans and other Indigenous people in the Red Power movements, were put out of business in the 1970s.[49]

In a 1999 interview at Diné College with a staff writer with Indian Country Today, Sainte-Marie said "I found out 10 years later, in the 1980s, that President Lyndon B. Johnson had been writing letters on White House stationery praising radio stations for suppressing my music" and "In the 1970s, not only was the protest movement put out of business, but the Native American movement was attacked."[50]

As a result of this blacklisting which Sainte-Marie claims was led by (among others) Presidents Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon, FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, and Nashville disc jockey Ralph Emery (following the release of I'm Gonna Be a Country Girl Again), Sainte-Marie said "I was put out of business in the United States".[51]

A Canadian legend that no one has really heard of. She was also one of the first "Digital" artists. A true trailblazer.

Good thread

SnF

a reply to: Tarantula777

"Hey, baby I just got back from town
Where the bribes are paid
Honey, they turned my offer down
They say the deal's already made
So now I gotta stand and watch
While it all comes down
And the buzzards and the hawks
And the judges and the mob
Circle round
Now if I were the queen of all the world
I would go in chains just to see you free
Of the ropes that bind you
And the role you play
And the pride that hooks you
While the big ones get away
Love junkies wanna change the world
It quickly stays the same
Money junkies hire all the smart ones
Power junkies run the game
One step at a time
Polarity Hill
If the bad guys don't get you, baby
Then the good guys will
With angels on the take
And the gangsters in the yard
Hey, don't the wars come easy?
Hey, don't the peace come hard?
Now if I had a way to reach the sky
I'd grab that crescent moon
Wield it like a knife
Save you from the lies
From the ropes that bind you
And the role you play
And the game that hooks you
While the big ones get away," by Buffy Sainte Marie

Nice 👌🏻

Sorry, not my kind of belief or music. I prefer Slipknot's "People = schiit"

a reply to: MykeNukem
Once again, I’m not a big fan. The reason for her being blacklisted in my opinion, was her stance on the Vietnam war. Specifically her belief that the Vietnam veteran was the one to blame, not the repressive communist regime that was trying to take over the country. Not the American political system that sent us there.

She had a big role in demonizing the veterans that fought and died in that war, alongside the likes of Bob Dylan and Jane Fonda. They among others had a devastating affect on Vietnam vets that is still felt today.

I am not responsible for what native people went thru in the past, but she is responsible for what I and others went through in the 60’s and 70’s.

The fact that someone believes that God speaks thru her is sickening.

Unless you were in Vietnam, you cannot possibly understand the brutality the Communists inflicted on the South Vietnamese. I saw this with my own eyes, not from a history book. Horrors that still haunt me today. That’s why I enlisted, that’s why I fought.

I don’t ask for anyones approval for my time there, and God knows that I’m no hero, but I really don’t appreciate the fact that the war protesters of the 60’s and 70’s are considered by some to be the voice of God, the enlightened, and someone to be respected.

In my mind that’s far from the truth. A pleasant voice, and thoughtful lyrics mean nothing. Look carefully before you pick your role models.

originally posted by: Topcraft
a reply to: MykeNukem
Once again, I’m not a big fan. The reason for her being blacklisted in my opinion, was her stance on the Vietnam war. Specifically her belief that the Vietnam veteran was the one to blame, not the repressive communist regime that was trying to take over the country. Not the American political system that sent us there.

She had a big role in demonizing the veterans that fought and died in that war, alongside the likes of Bob Dylan and Jane Fonda. They among others had a devastating affect on Vietnam vets that is still felt today.

I am not responsible for what native people went thru in the past, but she is responsible for what I and others went through in the 60’s and 70’s.

The fact that someone believes that God speaks thru her is sickening.

Unless you were in Vietnam, you cannot possibly understand the brutality the Communists inflicted on the South Vietnamese. I saw this with my own eyes, not from a history book. Horrors that still haunt me today. That’s why I enlisted, that’s why I fought.

I don’t ask for anyones approval for my time there, and God knows that I’m no hero, but I really don’t appreciate the fact that the war protesters of the 60’s and 70’s are considered by some to be the voice of God, the enlightened, and someone to be respected.

In my mind that’s far from the truth. A pleasant voice, and thoughtful lyrics mean nothing. Look carefully before you pick your role models.

Rolemodel?

I read her wiki..

Slow your roll.

a reply to: MykeNukem

Slow my roll? Maybe I should, after all my opinion doesn’t really mean anything to anyone. I get that. I guess I shouldn’t bring up the past as I lived it. After all, in todays world I’m just a bitter old man.

I guess I was trying to get across the fact that time makes anything acceptable. That is to say, the people that were affected by past events shouldn’t have a voice.

In my day, the language of music was used as a way to reach young people, to put forth your political beliefs and try to sway the minds of those young people to you’re beliefs. Today it’s the internet.

I can’t forget. Is it okay for a person to slam an entire group of people, soldiers in this case because they don’t believe in the same things you do? Is it okay to slam them because you’re ancestors were mistreated 200 years ago? Is it okay to cause emotional pain to someone because it happened to a distant relative? I guess so.

Maybe you should look past a Wikipedia article on the internet, and talk to someone who lived thru those times as a soldier. But, I guess it doesn’t really matter. She was blacklisted for a reason, maybe you could look into that a little deeper.

It’s been so long that I shouldn’t care anymore. But I can’t forget. Believe what you want, I’m not trying to change your mind. I guess that sums it all up. The war protesters of the 60’s and 70’s are the same people that are destroying our nation today. The communists have won. Enjoy it. After all, they do sing pretty tunes.