Absurd STONEWALL (pedo pals) survey alleges that a quarter of youth are LGBTQ+

So I've been doing this thing over the past week or so, which is something I hadn't ever done previously (steady on), in that I have been consuming several 'mainstream' media TV news shows late at night when I'm working on other projects & interests, finding that I'm finally good at multi-tasking more than one activity at once (as long as one of the activities is having the news on in the background). It's not strictly speaking true mainstream media, as it happens to be a relatively young British news channel named GB News (I've spoken of it in a couple of other posts in a bid to raise interest & support for the channel amongst our British ATS members. As a means of setting context, consider the remarkable fact that here in the UK we now have a channel which openly refers to the pandemic as "the SCAMdemic", and which openly affirms that the COVID 'vaccines' are a literal bioweapon intended to depopulate the world.

This is absolutely remarkable when you think about it, hence I've felt it was necessary to comment on it to raise awareness. The channel has a large team of presenters & journalists/ content producers, and is polished/ modern enough to hold its own as a direct & fairly capable contender fighting against the woke liberal world order media 'Blob' (which, in the UK, constitutes the BBC news & SKY news channels primarily, but also ITV & Channel 4 news shows too - all of the aforementioned have always pretty much parroted the approved liberal world order talking points as doled out by Reuters & Associated Press, entirely unchallenged & without important context & opposing viewpoints which could otherwise facilitate a measured & balanced debate on any subject of importance in the modern world...)

So anyway, on to the topic of the thread: You all should know something of the alleged gay rights charity which has been in existence for over forty years known as STONEWALL, which got into some trouble in the 70's & 80's because of pandering to paedophiles & even campaigning for them to have certain inalienable 'sexual rights' as a sort of recognised minority who were deserving of respect & even friendship. That went down like a lead balloon from what I understand of the historical events I've summarised very briefly. Somehow, Stonewall survived that scandal as a gay rights pressure/ lobbying group, and surprise surprise, forty years after the pedo scandal, we find them taking a somewhat unhealthy interest/ being extremely excited by the news that, according to a survey they created (which was poorly designed & poorly conducted) a full QUARTER of the youngest people in British society now identify as LGBTQ+....

Firstly, this is utterly shocking if true. Secondly, it's not even remotely true (I will explain why shortly).

This is in fact nothing but shamelessly twisted & manipulated propaganda, designed as a shock human interest story to be disseminated like a mind virus throughout society via whichever newspaper features its details most prominently in the UK press. Whether it's positive or negative editorial slant, it doesn't matter to Stonewall, because as everytone knows, there's no such thing as bad press when you are a political lobbying/ 'human rights' pressure group, because you can spin the narrative firmly in your intended direction as soon as you're approached for comment. Of course, there are all sorts of ways you can grow the story, perhaps by issuing a heartfelt emotional sympathy/victimhood plea to the public, claiming they've been unfairly 'smeared' by the malodorous newspaper which first spoke harshly about their alleged 'evidence' of the claim at the centre of the story. In essence, the statistics don't measure up, coming back to the validity/ truthfulness of the central claim itself. In 2020, around 8% of Gen-Z identified as LGBTQ+ (many of them probably sauing this for 'cool points') and yet suddenly, a mere two years later, we are expected to believe that a full QUARTER (a whole 25%) of all 16-25 year olds are lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, 'queer' (whatever the # that actually means..?) & all the other bizarre & logically invalid 'gender identities'/ sexual persuasions/perversions that are represented by the cornucopia of additional letter types which continue long after Q has faded in the rear view mirror.

This rapid spiralling of adherents to primary LGBTQ+ ideology is surely wrapped up in broader & more pernicious media & social media support for those who claim to be of those persuasions, along with the rampantly & incessantly promoted/adulating improvement to the 'cool profile' of anyone who happens to be amongst the multiplicitous letter list, with regular slots for cheaply manufactured & poorly constructed LGBTQ+ characters in major movies now being released with alarming regularity. It is predictive programming of the most insidious sort. Especially this has been noticeable with the trans activist movement in particular; they simply MUST be shoehorned into as many movies, media appearances & news articles as possible, stacking up these featured slots at a blistering rate of pace, ensuring that the infants of the next generations are programmed from the very beginning to think that being trans is cool - and mark my words, it will even be pushed by the architects of the conspiracy as a 'socially responsible' act of brave, brave self-segregation & martyrdom for the sake of the collective, a brave, brave, endlessly brave sealing of one's fate as being medically incapable of ever having children. Whether you start out as a biological male or a biological female, they will whip off/out your reproductive parts before you even get to an age where you can actually understand what they are for, how they can be used & enjoyed as nature intended them, how their use will potentially enrich your life in wondrous ways that you can't possibly conceive of at the young age of 4 or 5 years old, which is the age at which they are now pushing this woke crap. And what's even worse, their parents will morally enable & financially facilitate the disgusting butchery which tragically destroys the inherent 'perfection' of their little body (I refer to their 'de facto' state of grace as a creature of wondrous design, 'as God intended' so to speak) - the whole process ensures a few more percentage point reductions in numbers of children born to Western familial lineages in the very near future. And they who remain, who survive the SCAMdemic & the bioweapon 'vaccines', well, they will "eat ze bugs", and shiny-headed little Klaus will jump up & down with glee, giving thanks & praise to the cast & crew of Glee while he's at it.

I'm sickened by how this is unfolding, and I hope to God we will start to see increasingly brave & adept pundits & journalists calling out this sickery, highlighting the former activities of groups such as Stonewall as they encourage the public to 'consider the source' in the pursuit of a better understanding of multiple linked concepts, by which we can integrate new knowledge & socially constructive, nuanced opinion matrices, which help people to grow in understanding & to excel at the practice of moral fortitude.


Stonewall survey finds more than a quarter of 'Gen Z' 16 to 25-year-olds identify as LGBTQ compared to less than 10 per cent of 'Baby Boomers'

The comedians I've been listening to say that number might be as high as five percent, and it you group in all the brainwashed children as of late that might be accurate.

25 percent on the other hand sounds like they did a recount on dominion systems.

A pity they don't vote with their feet, and stampede to the cinema for Bros, a gay romantic comedy.
Now look as a gay man aged 47 I'm sold.
We even used to have lgbt film festivals at art-house release theaters.
I loved Jeffrey and Bedrooms and Hallways.
Yip, when for real gay people going to the movies was a date.

Our little community.

But oh no, nowadays here's a gay romcom for everyone!

Except nobody actually went.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

The # or + ,whichever they use means peados,necrophilia and beastiality.
Stonewall hope normal people don't click on to this though,a leopard never changes its spots.
The peodophile information league has gone mainstream with no fanfare or lynchings due to the apathy of the British.

Where the trailer lost me, they're in a gay club (yeah that's "fantasia" to me).
And they see a built elderly gent dancing:

"Oh look it's Dumbledore on steroids"!

Sweeties, if you want to make a "crass" comedy that's fine, but don't sell it to me as political activism when you bash my age and masculinity.

Not that all gay-themed movies were always flops and unpopular.

I was raised a nudist and now with the internet porn can be viewed by any 14-year-old. In many cases, 14-year-olds have more computer knowledge than their parents.

Many know how to bypass parental controls and how to hide this from parents.
Once someone in a school class finds out how to bypass controls, it gets around class within a week to everyone that wants to know.
Kids now carry Linux flash drives and can plug into any Windows computer and do gaming or anything else they want with no history saved to the Windows computers.
They have learned to do this to bypass controls on school computers that many schools gave out during the COVID-19 school lockdowns.

LGBTQ+ in 2000 about 10% of people openly identified as LGBTQ+ when less then 20% were on the internet now with all the people on the internet likely 25% identify as LGBTQ+

Now it's so easy to come out as LGBTQ safely on the internet without many people knowing outside internet friends.

I've got the perfect Hollywood mix ... gay dinosaurs!

The wife's got her "centuries", so what's a T-Rex to do?
He hooks up with another T-Rex, and then?

Isn't this awkward?

Lets do love-bites ,,, I mean love-nibbles there tiger.

a reply to: ANNED

You're dead wrong on your 10% figure, in fact it's always been fairly well known in the UK that until the recent explosion in deliberate propaganda & information warfare to undermine the family unit & the 'normality' of ordinary sexuality within groups of young people, that prior to this whacked-out internet age the figure for percentage of the population which was willing to identify as homosexual on the census & in response to academic studies was actually only around 2-3% of the British population, with something like 0.5-1% being openly trans in their general self-identification for the same studies/census - though perhaps another 1% only came out as trans to their psychiatrists during gender dysmorphia treatment or counselling prior to undergoing what were then known as sex change operations.

- The proportion of the UK population aged 16 years and over identifying as heterosexual or straight decreased from 95.3% in 2014 to 94.6% in 2018.
- The proportion identifying as lesbian, gay or bisexual (LGB) increased from 1.6% in 2014 to 2.2% in 2018.
- In 2018, there were an estimated 1.2 million people aged 16 years and over identifying as LGB.
- Men (2.5%) were more likely to identify as LGB than women (2.0%) in 2018.
- Younger people (aged 16 to 24 years) were most likely to identify as LGB in 2018 (4.4%).
- Among English regions, people in London were most likely to identify as LGB (2.8%), with people in the North East the least likely (1.8%).
- More than two-thirds (68.7%) of people who identified as LGB were single (never married or in a civil partnership).

Office for National Statistics, United Kingdom, report: "Sexual orientation, UK: 2018. Experimental statistics on sexual orientation in the UK in 2018 by region, sex, age, marital status, ethnicity and socio-economic classification."

I am perfectly comfortable with claiming, therefore, in an absolute sense that before the data started to be manipulated & massaged to provide support for warped ideological positions supported by big tech, the social media 'Blob' & the array of activist think tanks & pressure groups, it was in fact well established in the literature that only a tiny minority of the entire population were openly/actively LGBT. We're talking 2-3% openly gay or lesbian, or bisexual, before the age of free & unbridled internet access via smartphones, and the dawn of a massive push at warped propaganda from the various arms of media, social media, pressure groups & the rest. With trans folk being something like 0.5-1% of the general population.

Try to find media articles faithfully discussing the actual official stats nowadays & you'll find that it's much, much harder to locate articles in the media which quote the actual statistics - instead they will refer to their own poorly planned 'surveys' as Stonewall did in this latest piece prepared by the Daily Mail. Stonewall didn't even ask for people to identify as LGBTQ+ in their survey, instead they targeted the percentage of people willing to openly identify as heterosexual. For one thing that's a stupid way to conduct a survey on a particular metric, by seeking confirmation of the opposite trend to that which you are hoping to elucidate. For a second, it's easy to understand that some people just don't respond to unofficial surveys in full for a variety of reasons. Thirdly, the data collected can be manipulated in various ways to support pre-ordained conclusions which the survey authors wanted to convey. And so on, etc, etc, etc.

There is a massive, well-funded & quite tightly coordinated media/social media/big tech/ WEF 'world authority' push for normalisation of what were once considered sexual deviancies & mental illnesses, even straight up sexually-motivated criminal behaviour patterns. I reiterate though, if you truly do your research properly, you will dig down to find those longstanding original statistics, and when you find them, you will realise that they were extremely well researched & adequately representative (perhaps increase the figures by a third to account for those who weren't openly gay or trans at the time due to social pressures) despite changes in social norms since (which, as I have stated, are deliberately inculcated by perverts at the head of pressure groups such as Stonewall).

To claim that the long term prior percentage of the general population which was openly LGBTQ+ can be measured at 10% twenty or thirty years ago - even five years ago - is absolutely ludicrous. To then suggest that today an entire 25% of all young people aged 16-25 are LGBTQ+ is even more absurd. If I have to knuckle down & dig out a stack of links to the studies which prove it I will, but I'd prefer not to dedicate so much time & effort to the matter ideally, it's perfectly possible for anyone to find it if they commit to the search, and as I highlighted above, the Office for National Statistics pops up in black & white with even the most cursory of Google searches in support of what I have claimed, destroying your false claims in a heartbeat.

In terms of the past, where were they then? Why weren't my offices & factories full of one in ten workers who was openly LGBTQ+...? It's not like there were any significant social reasons to be stuck in the closet five years ago, and yet there were only one or two openly LGBTQ+ people working in those offices & factories, which were staffed with hundreds of workers from all backgrounds. There were no more than 2-3% that were openly LGB, with around 0.5-1% that were openly trans (gender dysmorphic). Even today, there is absolutely no way on God's green earth that 25% of young people are LGBTQ+. Yes, due to the disgusting propaganda campaigns of recent years the figure is significantly increased compared to the 2-3% total who were LGBTQ+ even five years ago. But 25%? That's insanity, and it's simply not true. Figures of 10-25% of young people being LGBTQ+ are simply fantasy; delusions of grandeur being spun out as pure propaganda by pressure groups such as Stonewall.

And you know what? Given their history, it is entirely likely that within two years they will be openly campaigning with much fanfare for the open acceptance & 'sexual rights' of paedophiles, whom they will label 'MAPS - Minor Attracted Persons'. Then the floodgates of apocalyptic events will open up, as the accepted standards of decent society are rewritten again & again, following the pattern we've seen over the past sixty years, a race to the bottom, with every loathsome shadow lurker imaginable sharing information freely, demanding their rights be pandered to, demanding that the should be allowed to sleep with children who openly themselves want to 'experiment' with these MAPS. It's a terrifying reality that we presently face, and it's not a ridiculous proposition that the situation I have described will indeed come true in the next five to ten years.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

These numbers don't reflect reality as anyone would expect. They are used to attract more subscription and to advertise the LGBT community.

Here is data from the ONS

In 2020 around 3.1% of 16 and over in the UK identified as gay, lesbian, bisexual.

www.ons.gov.uk...


I think it's great there is a new channel GB News that doesn't peddle the narrative and the left wing propaganda which goes unchallenged most times when it comes to gender ideology and specifically transgender ideology that could be dangerous especially when it find its way in schools and universities.

In the US thankfully the situation is different.
I assume you have heard of Matt Walsh or the dailywire and there are numerous others who actively oppose the nonsensical claims of the transgender ideology when at the same time gaining attention from lawmakers and politicians.

I have created a thread about Matt Walsh's exceptional documentary: What is a woman? Which shows the flaws and logical fallacies of the transgender ideology

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Lt me know what you think when you have a look.

Matt Walsh is on tour in his state where he presents his documentary that has gained a lot of attention and in contact with members of the Tennessee lawmakers and politicians. As a result of his actions and that of dailywire the Vanderbilt Pediatric Clinic has postponed all gender reassignment surgeries for minors after Matt and his team have exposed them.

It is a likely that in the State of Tennessee gender reassignment surgeries could be outlawed for minors and never allowed again.

youtu.be...

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

Stonewall -- and specifically Stonewall's "Diversity Champion" scheme -- is literally embedded in government offices and organizations throughout the UK, providing all kinds of guidelines and "toolkits", including instructing media on how to write articles about transgender issues. For the most part, women's organizations and individual women have borne the brunt, and have been the only ones to fight back against it (with only a couple notable exceptions -- a guy named Glinner and another ex-police officer known as "Fair Cop").

Everything Stonewall is doing has been approved and sanctioned by government officials -- both men and women.

Here's what you're up against:

Stonewall’s influence on BBC and Ofcom revealed

Stonewall’s worrying school guidance

Why are taxpayers funding Stonewall diversity programmes?

Public bodies ‘paying thousands’ for LGBT diversity champion status

People Power Puts Stonewall’s ‘Policy Distortion’ Under Scrutiny

When given the chance, the EHRC has endorsed Stonewall and failed women

Stonewall did not become so powerful and influential by accident or coincidence. This was a coordinated campaign with regulatory, legislative and law enforcement officials.

I'd believe this just because it's trendy, so kids would want to identify to fit in or seem cool or special. But you have to keep in mind that you don't need to chop your junk off to qualify, saying you are non-binary is a low-effort easy mode for obtaining lgbt status. That's why so many celebrities jumped on the they pronoun gimmick. It got them free publicity for a week and people applauded them for being brave.

a reply to: juulzverne

...you don't need to chop your junk off to qualify...

This is why so many autogynephiles -- heterosexual men -- now feel free to play "woman" publicly. They don't have to chop off their junk, they just get to put on their womanface and play dress up and act out their fetish on the world.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

In a land of freedoms, do what even you want. Complain, your right. To live, theirs. Equal you know... Both of your rights.

I may not agree, but to be fair? They equally don't have to agree w you. Fair is fair. No matter how much you personally don't agree.

The name for both? "Humanity". You're part, they are part, I'm part.

Yet, you are not? Tolerance is the word found across the Bible, Talmud and Koran. You don't have to like any part of it....but it's our home, yours and mine.

Clean your own house 1st. Don't worry about others. God is good, Jesus Saves, His mansion has many rooms for all.

I have many friends of different, even "odd" ideas of human sexuality....yet, they are still my friends.

originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: juulzverne

...you don't need to chop your junk off to qualify...

This is why so many autogynephiles -- heterosexual men -- now feel free to play "woman" publicly. They don't have to chop off their junk, they just get to put on their womanface and play dress up and act out their fetish on the world.

Absolute delusion.

a reply to: Boadicea

right. if I were in the community, I would want a higher barrier to entry to keep the tourists and poseurs out. commit or gtfo. you don't get to claim status by just saying words like its a Harry Potter spell.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Absolute delusion.

I'd say it's delusion for the truly gender dysphoric... but for the autogynephiles it's all fantasy. They know exactly what they're doing and loving every minute.

originally posted by: juulzverne
a reply to: Boadicea

right. if I were in the community, I would want a higher barrier to entry to keep the tourists and poseurs out. commit or gtfo. you don't get to claim status by just saying words like its a Harry Potter spell.

Agreed. That should be a given. The fact that they include and embrace the lowest of the low and the scummiest of the scummy -- "acceptance without exception" -- is their biggest problem finding acceptance, and rightfully so.

So why? Money of course, but I feel like there's still more to it...

originally posted by: Boadicea

Agreed. That should be a given. The fact that they include and embrace the lowest of the low and the scummiest of the scummy -- "acceptance without exception" -- is their biggest problem finding acceptance, and rightfully so.

So why? Money of course, but I feel like there's still more to it...

it should operate more like native american tribe membership. you can't use a DNA test or genealogy process to declare membership to a tribe. (sorry liz) the tribe determines membership.

a reply to: juulzverne

it should operate more like native american tribe membership. you can't use a DNA test or genealogy process to declare membership to a tribe. (sorry liz) the tribe determines membership.

Agreed -- we do have the right to choose who we associate with... but that's exactly what's happening. They choose to associate with the scumbags.

However, notably, a few gay organizations have broken away from the transgender ideology -- and have been persecuted unmercifully for doing so. Including a couple of the original founders of Stonewall, who objected to the trans ideology and agenda, and broke away to form the LGB Alliance, which I believe has now expanded to the USA and maybe Canada. A more recent one is Gays Against Groomers.