It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.

 

Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.

 

Paddock had NFA Firearms at Mandalay bay?

page: 1
12

log in

join
share:

posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 08:58 AM
link   
My friend alerted me to this www.ammoland.com... ooter-report-what-nfa-weapons/#axzz7geiGtTNFtoday. The article mentions NFA firearms, I didn't know what that term means. It means the following from Wikipedia:

en.wikipedia.org...#:~:text=NFA%20firearms%20include%20machine%20guns,as%20disguised%20or%20improvised%20firearms.

NFA firearms include machine guns, short-barreled rifles and shotguns, heavy weapons, explosive ordnance, silencers, and "any other weapon" (AOW), such as disguised or improvised firearms.

So, Paddaock didn't use a bumpstock that night, but used NFA weapons?




U.S.A. – -(Ammoland.com)- “@FBI why include that Paddock had NFA firearms at Mandalay Bay when you previously said they were bumpstocks (and thus weren’t machine guns until after the bumpstock rule?)” attorney Stephen Stamboulieh tweeted Saturday.


Police kept changing the timeline of the events. Why release a timeline if you are going to change it later? To confuse the public and to throw things off?

Was a Saudi Prince in Vegas that night? Was he a target?

Is Paddock an arms dealer?

Helicopters were up in the air around Vegas that night and turned off their transponders during their flight.

At this point, I don't think we will really know what happened that night. A lot of weird things were going on.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 09:20 AM
link   
a reply to: Maximus0111

Is "Paddock" even a real person?

Or perhaps just an undercover identity...

I thought then and still think now that this was some kind of three-letter-agency operation that went very very wrong.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 09:49 AM
link   
a reply to: Maximus0111

You don’t need to be dealer to have NFA weapons. All you need to do is submit an application to the ATF (and the $200 fee). The application requires the CLEO (chief law enforcement officer) in your area-chief of police or sheriff; submit finger prints for an quick background check. You have to submit a new application for each NFA weapon or silencer.

It is scary easy to get these if you live in an area that is more pro second amendment, it really depends on the CLEO. If met some who sign off on everyone as long has they don’t have a violent history and I’ve met some CLEOs who won’t sign off on any application they get no matter the person or history.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 09:52 AM
link   
It had nothing to do with bump stocks. The early pictures I saw were of high end weapons, complete with the fourth pin installed above the trigger for an auto sear.

This whole thing stinks.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 10:03 AM
link   
a reply to: Maximus0111

i personally believe paddock was forced by the powers that be to work undercover, the FBI said he was a arms dealer. he probably got caught selling something illegal and they told him help us and we'll drop the charges.He brother even said as much in a interview which seems to have disappeared from the internet.

one of two things happened,

the terrorist, drug dealers, or who ever found out and did the shooting.
or he said ____ the FBI/ATF/DHS and turned on them.

either way that explains the time it took to go into the rooms where he was. had to take him down and set up the scene.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 10:05 AM
link   
You can also add things that will make a semi-auto into a NFA weapon. Sorry for being vague, but the conversion back and forth is super easy and very inexpensive. It is also up to 10 years and $250,000 fine for making that addition…or possibly just possession because it is so easy to convert back and forth it would be assumed you tried it and not necessarily with the one you were caught with level of inexpensive.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 10:30 AM
link   
Let's not forget this guy.
From: LA Times dated JULY 21, 2015

The body went unnoticed for two weeks in the summer heat, decomposing inside a sport utility vehicle parked in the affluent neighborhood of Pacific Palisades.

Once Los Angeles police were called, they traced the dead man inside the vehicle to a town house down the street. There, investigators found roughly two tons of ammunition and more than 1,200 high-end pistols, shotguns and rifles.



Several neighbors said the man was known only as “Bob” in the local area and described him as a gun fanatic who claimed to have worked covertly for either the FBI or the CIA. His fiancée had lived in the town home on Palisades Drive for years, they said.



Harland Braun, a veteran criminal defense attorney who has represented celebrities and other high-profile clients, said the story the fiancée told him about what occurred “sounds so bizarre.” The dead man, he said, had told his fiancée that he was an undercover operative for the government and was being watched by the unnamed agency he worked for.

“The problem is that the truth may be unbelievable,” Braun said. “She’ll talk to the LAPD, but will anybody believe it?”


Well, I know we're talking about Paddock. So, let's look at him.
From: WIKI because we'll follow "their" narrative

Paddock worked as a letter carrier for the U.S. Postal Service from 1975 to 1978. After that, he worked as an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) agent until 1984. In 1985, he worked as an auditor for the Defense Contract Audit Agency. Toward the end of the 1980s, Paddock worked for three years as an internal auditor for a company that later merged to form Lockheed Martin.


Anyone else find that the gaps in his employment history and life seem odd given that Paddock's life from birth till almost the end of college (1953 till 1977) was also during the time of MKUltra (1953 till 1973). no bells or anything.

If Bob Smith (dead man with 1200 guns) and Stephen Paddock were both part of a government weapons groups, then how many others are out there? I remember a story about government vans showing up in South Chicago and dropping of weapons for street gangs. Could Paddock just be a piece of this quilt of corruption within the US Government to stir discontent?



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 10:38 AM
link   
Another crime the useless FBI will never solve.


a reply to: Maximus0111



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 10:59 AM
link   
a reply to: Guyfriday

In the Paddock case, I was interested in the involvement of the Saudi Royal family. There was an internal family squabble going on at about that time and they owned the floors around the snipers nest. I figured someone may have put a hit on a cousin or uncle prince.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 11:08 AM
link   
a reply to: Nickn3

True, but let's not forget that a single shot was made towards the airport delaying one of those flights going to A-51. That location was in a different direction than where the shooting victims were at. So, was the people shot just a distraction of the true target?

Could the delay in that flight leaving have been the true goal here, or was something else going on that seems to make no real sense as of right now?



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 12:47 PM
link   
Is it not amazing how the FBI picks and chooses who to investigate and who to ignore? What a waste of tax payer money that alphabet agency is. I hope one day the president or congress dismantles the alphabet agencies inot a million pieces. But we all know what happened to the last public official who said that out loud. JFK. a reply to: Lysergic



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 01:20 PM
link   
a reply to: Maximus0111

And this was the beginning of Q. I remember the first few drops were about LV shootings and how it was a busted gun deal and The target was the Saudi prince. Then, Trump was in Saudi Arabia two weeks later and a ton of folks were rounded up in SA. I followed till around December and everyone told me it was a kid in his basement. No chance. Q is US intelligence playing the MAGA crowd. It’s like OJ going to find real killers. We were played by deep state.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 02:17 PM
link   
a reply to: BernnieJGato

You're Warm on a few points.

Maybe I'll elaborate later 😎



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 02:19 PM
link   

originally posted by: Nickn3
a reply to: Guyfriday

In the Paddock case, I was interested in the involvement of the Saudi Royal family. There was an internal family squabble going on at about that time and they owned the floors around the snipers nest. I figured someone may have put a hit on a cousin or uncle prince.



You're warm too 😎



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 02:21 PM
link   
a reply to: Maximus0111

Also, there were "people" on the Police Radio channel(s) that were not Police but they had 2 way radios and were calling in fake reports and info 😎



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 02:33 PM
link   
a reply to: Maximus0111

A private investigation determined that no shots were fired at all from Mandalay Bay or the other Hotel(s) (Delano, Luxor, Excalibur, Tropicana, Hooters), nor the abandoned tower to the South of the Concert Grounds. 😎

An audio study from the main entrance at Mandalay Bay determined the "Shots" heard by "witnesses" were echoes from across the street bouncing off the hotel top floors. 😎

And yup, Saudi Prince bin Salmon was there with a detail of body guards and they were at the concert dressed in standard American Western clothes. 😎

Also, all the dozens of videos with audio of shots fired had clear vision of the rooms at Mandalay Bay, yet none showed any muzzle flash from automatic weapons 😎

more later 😎



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 04:38 PM
link   
bits & pieces......

Same private investigation found no broken glass on the landings (a first floor roof and the driveway/sidewalk) below "Paddock's Room(s)" 😎

The videos of the Police going into "The Room" were actually training films made 6 months before the shootings and any radio calls were made by imposters with police frequency radios 😎

The body (of "Paddock") found and all the guns were all staged as was all the news hype and the fake workers on TV (Ellen DeGeneres show) and the fake security guard. "Stephen Paddock" was a dormant disposable identity used by the FBI prior to this incident 😎

The broken window was part of the mascaraed 😎

The pictures of "Paddock" in the casinos and whatnot along with all the family "History" and "witnesses" was all staged and the picture isn't "Paddock" 😎

 


The FBI and U.S. Intel found out about an assassination attempt on Mohammed bin Salman too late. Info came through Saudi General Intelligence Agency 😎

FBI knew the attempt would be at the Concert and bin Salmon would be there in normal dress 😎

Saudi Intel suspected Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal and a group of dissidents would be the assassin designers 😎

There were mass detentions in SA a month after LV Shootings, including Al-Waleed 😎

more later😎

p.s. the "private investigation" is a 500+ page report from MGM Grand Corporate Security and several private agencies hired by MGM at the time 😎 The report is not available to the public (FBI request no surprise) 😎



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 04:44 PM
link   

originally posted by: Lysergic
Another crime the useless FBI will never solve.


a reply to: Maximus0111



Of course they won't "solve" this crime. They're in on it.



posted on Oct, 3 2022 @ 04:54 PM
link   

originally posted by: Lysergic
Another crime the useless FBI will never solve.


a reply to: Maximus0111



Cant.....or wont?

I think we all know the answer.








 
12

log in

join