A retired neurosurgeon tells the truth about the Covid pandemic

originally posted by: thethinkingman
a reply to: NorthOfStuff

somehow these people dont understand 50 million is MORE than 6.5 million..... *sighs*

they read a webpage they dont understand, without thinking about any of the information what so ever.

This is basically how so many people got shot up with a untested drug and are now a guinea pig in a world wide experiment.

Adjust 50 million for today's population and its about 200 million.

Then adjust Covid to its real death count and its 400,000 who died FROM and not with.


So 200 million versus 400 thousand.

a reply to: thethinkingman

“The glory which is built upon a lie soon becomes a most unpleasant incumbrance. … How easy it is to make people believe a lie, and how hard it is to undo that work again!”

a reply to: Overseeall

For real? I had to address this first..... I guess all those who have benefited from John Hopkins advancements in transplant, heart, genetics and cancer treatments should go have their procedures reversed... They were obviously hoodwinked by snake oil merchants. Honestly, this is just downright silly.

Did I, or the author of the article suggest that anyone should have treatments or medical procedures reversed? No.
Did you read the John Hopkins 'Covid Myths' website? It's pure propaganda. What's downright silly is the claims they made on the site.

Seems like he has an axe to grind.

Blaylock does have an axe to grind. He couldn't have made it any clearer. He's calling out the medical establishment and the government for a variety of issues, including lying, draconian mandates, and vilifying anyone who questions their sacred "science".

originally posted by: thethinkingman
a reply to: chr0naut

How does that maths add up when you have 50 million total deaths versus 6.5 million total deaths with almost 4x the population?????

The 1918 flu spread to nearly 100% of the world population over a three year period. COVID-19 has not spread that far. There were lock-downs, and vaccinations, and isolation of those affected with COVID-19, which were not possible in 1918.

Current world population (according to the World Population Clock) is 7,976,891,500. According to the John's Hopkins Coronavirus Dashboard, there have been 615,067,149 registered cases of COVID-19 worldwide. That represents 7.71% of the current world population having had COVID-19.

The fact is also....the spanish flu killed alot of healthy people.....not unhealthy, old people riddled with disease.

The 1918 flu also affected the unwell and the aged. You have to remember that there were fewer people who got to older age in 1918, where the average age of mortality for males, in the USA, was 36.6 years for males, and 42.2 years for females.

The H1N1 flu virus was also a different pathogen to the SARS-CoV-2 virus, so it's profile and actions could be expected to be different. Comparing one to the other is a false equivalence.

And as for COVID-19 only affecting the infirm and elderly. That is a misunderstanding of the mortality statistics. Yes, more of the elderly and infirm died - that is the same for nearly every disease, but 47.7% of COVID-19 moralities were for those 75 years or older. That means that 52.3% of COVID deaths were for those under 75 (note, the average age of death in 2019 in the US, was 73.8 years, so you can see that attributing higher deaths to the ages of people above the average age of death, would skew the figures making it appear that COVID-19 was 'worse' for the elderly).

Almost everyone in the world....several BILLION people have had covid most likely....and 0.08% of the entire world has died....how can that possibly add up????

Nope. By several estimates, it will be 5-7 years from the outbreak for the most infectious strains to have affected close to 100% of the world population.

The spanish flu was mainly affecting europe, not the entire world...... it also lasted for 1 year, possibly 2.

The 1918 flu started in Kansas USA. It wasn't Spanish' by any means, and the initial country it affected worst in the world was the USA. It also lasted three years although there were 4 distinct waves of infection.

They also didnt have the technology to fabricate a virus like this one..... This virus clearly came out of a lab.

No, it didn't. Nearly every report on the possible source of the virus suggests it arose naturally. Nearly every pundit who says it was generated in a lab, has only a string of evidence about who funded the labs. There is no scientific objective evidence that it was generated in a lab.

You seem to be pulling stuff out your ass.

You seem to be repeating the same nonsense that appears on anti-vax and conspiracy sites - verbatim. Do a little science and then some actual investigation for yourself. Find out if what the crowd of numpties is saying, has any merit?

they're not testimonials....they're actually from MOD records. They tested live plague bacteria ....outside....WILLY NILLY. The reason i point this out is cause those experiments are insanely dangerous and were done secretly on the public, did you even read what it says?

Yes, those experiments were not as safe as we could do now. But the evidence that they didn't cause some dread outbreak is fairly strong. And you seem to have mixed up inert chemical experiments to find out how a pathogen or toxin would spread, with experiments using pathogens or toxins.

For instance, zinc cadmium sulfide was believed to be biologically inert, and was used to find out how air dispersed particles traveled. In 33 locations in the US and Canada, zinc cadmium sulfide has been used to find out how a gas attack might affect the subway systems and in air dispersion. Zinc cadmium sulfide is not a biological weapon, it is an indicator chemical, or tracer.

Some of those experiments, even though no-one told anyone at the time what they were really doing, probably have saved millions from potential CBW attack. There have been investigations into these (usually military) exercises and from one report (from the National Research Council Committee on Toxicology):

"[G]iven the very small amounts of zinc cadmium sulfide to which people were exposed and the short duration of exposure, it is extremely unlikely that anyone in the test areas developed adverse health effects”

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: thethinkingman
a reply to: NorthOfStuff

somehow these people dont understand 50 million is MORE than 6.5 million..... *sighs*

they read a webpage they dont understand, without thinking about any of the information what so ever.

This is basically how so many people got shot up with a untested drug and are now a guinea pig in a world wide experiment.

Adjust 50 million for today's population and its about 200 million.

Then adjust Covid to its real death count and its 400,000 who died FROM and not with.

So 200 million versus 400 thousand.

Then adjust for the number of instances of actual confirmation of the numbers pulled from the air (and multiplying it by your answer) and the answer is 'zero'.

50 million is more than 6.5 million. Big number > small number.

The earliest documented case was March 1918 in Kansas, United States, with further cases recorded in France, Germany and the United Kingdom in April. Two years later, nearly a third of the global population, or an estimated 500 million people, had been infected in four successive waves. Estimates of deaths range from 17 million to 50 million[6], and possibly as high as 100 million, making it the second-deadliest pandemic in human history after the Black Death bubonic plague of 1346–1353.

You're literally trying to say covid which CANNOT KILL 99.9% OF PEOPLE is worse than SECOND DEADLIEST PANDEMIC IN THE HISTORY........ it doesnt matter if 100% of the world got covid ....99.9% of people will not die, CANNOT die.

Even by the numbers based on testing are MORE than the spanish flu, it was 600 million was it? I feel like you're attempting to be "right" but are so completely wrong, so theres not much more to add.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuff
a reply to: chr0naut

People didn’t “die with the Spanish Flu” they died from the Spanish Flu.

People died both with, and from, the 1918 'Kansas' flu. That is generally how disease works - in all cases. To think some disease is specially 'otherwise' is fairly silly.

Additionally, population mobility and density have increased exponentially since the early 1900’s.

During the lock-downs, and travel embargoes? LOL



During the 1918 pandemic, the best and brightest of the world were being shipped out en-masse to fight in other countries, and all paid by tax dollars, too...

Head to head the Spanish Flu would be far more serious than Covid today.

The case fatality ratio of both diseases would disagree with that assumption.

originally posted by: thethinkingman
50 million is more than 6.5 million. Big number > small number.

The earliest documented case was March 1918 in Kansas, United States, with further cases recorded in France, Germany and the United Kingdom in April. Two years later, nearly a third of the global population, or an estimated 500 million people, had been infected in four successive waves. Estimates of deaths range from 17 million to 50 million[6], and possibly as high as 100 million, making it the second-deadliest pandemic in human history after the Black Death bubonic plague of 1346–1353.

You're literally trying to say covid which CANNOT KILL 99.9% OF PEOPLE is worse than SECOND DEADLIEST PANDEMIC IN THE HISTORY........ it doesnt matter if 100% of the world got covid ....99.9% of people will not die, CANNOT die.

Literally even by the numbers based on testing are MORE than the spanish flu, it was 600 million was it? I feel like you're attempting to be "right" but are so completely wrong, so theres not much more to add.

The "99% of people" number is not based on any science. It is a false made-up and source-less number that was based upon the total population of the USA at an early stage before many had been infected with the virus. It wasn't true then, and is even less so now.

It also means, if it were true, that one in every hundred would die. That would be about 33.5 million deaths in the USA from COVID-19 (i.e: the mortality statistics of the US argue against "99%" being an even vaguely valid number - at any stage).

But it takes time for any pathogen to spread, and the person who guessed at that figure two years ago, will be more and more wrong over time. This is why case fatality is a more important statistic, than something that will grow arithmetically over time as a disease spreads and more of the population become infected.

The case fatality of COVID-19 (prior to treatments and vaccines) was about 2.5%. The case fatality of the 1918 flu is a little more than 2.5%. They are similar.

a reply to: chr0naut

TextNo, it didn't. Nearly every report on the possible source of the virus suggests it arose naturally. Nearly every pundit who says it was generated in a lab, has only a string of evidence about who funded the labs. There is no scientific objective evidence that it was generated in a lab.


This is so far off as to not even be in the same universe as truth...

You might have been able to pass that off as truth in the middle of 2020, but we've had nearly two years now to uncover emails, memos, and testimony that show demonstrably that this virus was created with the help of US health agencies with money that was sourced illegally. If there was anyone with a stitch of moral fiber within our DOJ, people would be facing the death penalty right now, and Fauci would be at the top of the list.

Wuhan and US scientists were planning to release enhanced airborne coronavirus particles into Chinese bat populations to inoculate them against diseases that could jump to humans, leaked grant proposals dating from 2018 show.

New documents show that just 18 months before the first Covid-19 cases appeared, researchers had submitted plans to release skin-penetrating nanoparticles and aerosols containing “novel chimeric spike proteins” of bat coronaviruses into cave bats in Yunnan, China.

When Covid-19 was first genetically sequenced, scientists were puzzled about how the virus had evolved such a human-specific adaptation at the cleavage site on the spike protein, which is the reason it is so infectious.

The documents were released by Drastic, the web-based investigations team set up by scientists from across the world to look into the origins of Covid-19.

In a statement, Drastic said: “Given that we find in this proposal a discussion of the planned introduction of human-specific cleavage sites, a review by the wider scientific community of the plausibility of artificial insertion is warranted.”

The proposal also included plans to mix high-risk natural coronavirus strains with more infectious but less dangerous varieties.

The bid was submitted by British zoologist Peter Daszak of EcoHealth Alliance, the US-based organisation, which has worked closely with the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) researching bat coronaviruses.

Well look who it is, its none other than peter daszak....

Darpa refused to fund the work, saying: “It is clear that the proposed project led by Peter Daszak could have put local communities at risk”, and warned that the team had not properly considered the dangers of enhancing the virus (gain of function research) or releasing a vaccine by air.

Grant documents show that the team also had some concerns about the vaccine programme and said they would “conduct educational outreach … so that there is a public understanding of what we are doing and why we are doing it, particularly because of the practice of bat-consumption in the region”.

Angus Dalgleish, Professor of Oncology at St Georges, University of London, who struggled to get work published showing that the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) had been carrying out “gain of function” work for years before the pandemic, said the research may have gone ahead even without the funding.

“This is clearly a gain of function, engineering the cleavage site and polishing the new viruses to enhance human cell infectibility in more than one cell line,” he said.

Daszak was also behind a letter published in The Lancet last year which effectively shut down scientific debate into the origins of Covid-19.

Viscount Ridley, who has co-authored a book on the origin of Covid-19, due for release in November, and who has frequently called for a further investigation into what caused the pandemic in the House of Lords, said: “For more than a year I tried repeatedly to ask questions of Peter Daszak with no response.

“Now it turns out he had authored this vital piece of information about virus work in Wuhan but refused to share it with the world. I am furious. So should the world be.

“Peter Daszak and the EcoHealth Alliance (EHA) proposed injecting deadly chimeric bat coronaviruses collected by the Wuhan Institute of Virology into humanised and ‘batified’ mice, and much, much more.”

A Covid-19 researcher from the World Health Organisation (WHO), who wished to remain anonymous, said it was alarming that the grant proposal included plans to enhance the more deadly disease of Middle-East Respiratory Syndrome (Mers).

ohhhhhhh

Also daszak...the guy doing this BAT CORONA VIRUS MANIPULATION was also ...on the WHO investigation that essentially decided NOPE, definitely not a lab leak.

Daszak was also a member of the joint team the World Health Organization sent to China in February 2020 to investigate the origins of the pandemic, which concluded that it was “extremely unlikely” that the virus had been released from a laboratory.

(In March, WHO called for further investigation of the origins of the virus and stated that “all hypotheses remain open.”)

“I find it really disappointing that one of the members of the joint WHO-China team, which is essentially the group of scientists that were tasked as representatives of both the scientific community and the World Health Organization of investigating this, are actually on this proposal, knew that this line of research was at least under consideration, and didn’t mention it all,” said Bloom, of Fred Hutch. “Whatever information that relates to help people think about this just needs to be made transparently available and explained.”

Daszak, the EcoHealth Alliance president, has actively sought to quash interest in the idea that the novel coronavirus originated in a lab. In February 2020, as the pandemic began to grip major cities in the U.S., he began organizing scientists to write an open letter that was published in the Lancet addressing the origins of the virus. “The rapid, open, and transparent sharing of data on this outbreak is now being threatened by rumours and misinformation around its origins,” read the statement signed by Daszak and 26 co-authors.

“We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin.”

Daszak directed and gathered signatures for the letter, all the while suggesting that he and his collaborators on the proposed DARPA project, Baric and Wang, distance themselves from the effort. “I spoke with Linfa [Wang] last night about the statement we sent round. He thinks, and I agree with him, that you, me and him should not sign this statement, so it has some distance from us and therefore doesn’t work in a counterproductive way,”

Daszak wrote to Baric in February 2020, just weeks before it appeared in the journal, according to an email surfaced a year later by public health investigative research group U.S. Right to Know.

“We’ll then put it out in a way that doesn’t link it back to our collaboration so we maximize an independent voice.” Ultimately, Daszak did sign the letter. “I also think this is a good decision,” Baric replied. “Otherwise it looks self-serving and we lose impact.”

ohhh

Just a coincidence again ey lads? only the millionth coincidence right?? NO NO, ITS ACTUALLY ONLY BEEN 999,999th! GODDDDDD. GET IT RIGHT!

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: thethinkingman
50 million is more than 6.5 million. Big number > small number.

The earliest documented case was March 1918 in Kansas, United States, with further cases recorded in France, Germany and the United Kingdom in April. Two years later, nearly a third of the global population, or an estimated 500 million people, had been infected in four successive waves. Estimates of deaths range from 17 million to 50 million[6], and possibly as high as 100 million, making it the second-deadliest pandemic in human history after the Black Death bubonic plague of 1346–1353.

You're literally trying to say covid which CANNOT KILL 99.9% OF PEOPLE is worse than SECOND DEADLIEST PANDEMIC IN THE HISTORY........ it doesnt matter if 100% of the world got covid ....99.9% of people will not die, CANNOT die.

Literally even by the numbers based on testing are MORE than the spanish flu, it was 600 million was it? I feel like you're attempting to be "right" but are so completely wrong, so theres not much more to add.

The "99% of people" number is not based on any science. It is a false made-up and source-less number that was based upon the total population of the USA at an early stage before many had been infected with the virus. It wasn't true then, and is even less so now.

It also means, if it were true, that one in every hundred would die. That would be about 33.5 million deaths in the USA from COVID-19 (i.e: the mortality statistics of the US argue against "99%" being an even vaguely valid number - at any stage).

But it takes time for any pathogen to spread, and the person who guessed at that figure two years ago, will be more and more wrong over time. This is why case fatality is a more important statistic, than something that will grow arithmetically over time as a disease spreads and more of the population become infected.

The case fatality of COVID-19 (prior to treatments and vaccines) was about 2.5%. The case fatality of the 1918 flu is a little more than 2.5%. They are similar.

More people in the US died in 2021 than 2020 with covid. Notice how I said with and not from. Because from is 6% of the fake number they made up to inflate the death count to justify everything. Every using their own metrics and a weaker strain of the virus, more people died in 2021.

originally posted by: MaxxAction
a reply to: chr0naut

TextNo, it didn't. Nearly every report on the possible source of the virus suggests it arose naturally. Nearly every pundit who says it was generated in a lab, has only a string of evidence about who funded the labs. There is no scientific objective evidence that it was generated in a lab.

This is so far off as to not even be in the same universe as truth...

You might have been able to pass that off as truth in the middle of 2020, but we've had nearly two years now to uncover emails, memos, and testimony that show demonstrably that this virus was created with the help of US health agencies with money that was sourced illegally. If there was anyone with a stitch of moral fiber within our DOJ, people would be facing the death penalty right now, and Fauci would be at the top of the list.

Then link to some sort of physical scientific evidence that the virus was engineered.

- List the equipment that would have been required to pull off such a feat.

- The papers that showed the numbers and timeline of the science.

- The staff required to achieve it in less than a decade.

- The vast amounts of chemicals and robotic test equipment required to repeat the same actions probably hundreds of millions of times over (*note: in nature, every one of the millions/billions of potential hosts and incubator species easily exceeds what could be done in a lab).

- Then try and fit the physical germination and growth times for each generation subsequently produced as traits are added and evaluated towards producing a new variant.

- Then, perhaps, note the mutability of all the subsequent strains that have arisen naturally over the last three years (or, do you believe they were all done in the lab too)?

The fact that you would wish to murder innocent people trying their best to protect you and yours, shows that you have no idea of any of the science required, but you are entirely gullible and opinionated.

Why the hell do people who clearly have done ZERO research until they wanna think they're right so they go on google.....think they know what their talking about???? Go do some research on virus manipulation....theres literally TENS OF THOUSANDS of papers on the subject.

What is this, your own personal #ing school???? Go do some research for like ...several years THEN start talking chit.

Guy doesnt even grasp that if you released a virus...its now out there...replicating TRILLIONS OF TIMES....then mutating.......*sighs*

What about this manipulated virus.

What COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca contains
One dose (0.5 ml) contains: COVID-19 Vaccine (ChAdOx1-S* recombinant) 5 × 10^10 viral particles (vp)

*Recombinant, replication-deficient chimpanzee adenovirus vector encoding the SARS-CoV-2 Spike glycoprotein

. Produced in genetically modified human embryonic kidney (HEK) 293 cells.

This product contains genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

whoaaaaaaa omg research

Ever heard of that one? WHOAAAA DUDE HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY DO THIS WITHOUT ROBOTS N STUFFFFFFFFF.

Theres way more herp derps than i realised. Best ignored.

originally posted by: thethinkingman
Wuhan and US scientists were planning to release enhanced airborne coronavirus particles into Chinese bat populations to inoculate them against diseases that could jump to humans, leaked grant proposals dating from 2018 show.

New documents show that just 18 months before the first Covid-19 cases appeared, researchers had submitted plans to release skin-penetrating nanoparticles and aerosols containing “novel chimeric spike proteins” of bat coronaviruses into cave bats in Yunnan, China.

Could this release of the spike protein, to immunize the bats against viruses containing the spike protein, cause the creation of those viruses that contain a similar spike protein?

Of course not. Not at all.

If it had happened early enough (which it didn't, it didn't happen at all, it was just an idea that was being floated), it may actually have stopped the SARS-CoV-2 virus from ever getting into the bats and crossing the species barrier entirely and prevented the existence of COVID-19.

This also cannot create a new virus and also might inhibit future new viruses with the potential of crossing the species barrier and becoming pathogenic to humans.

This is the case of the conspiracy theory having such a wrong notion of things, that they get everything entirely back-to-front.

And is an example where Peter Daszak and his team would have been doing his job of protecting us from a potential disease, in a way that did not cause disease.

Do you get it?

originally posted by: thethinkingman
Why the hell do people who clearly have done ZERO research until they wanna think they're right so they go on google.....think they know what their talking about???? Go do some research on virus manipulation....theres literally TENS OF THOUSANDS of papers on the subject.

What is this, your own personal #ing school???? Go do some research for like ...several years THEN start talking chit.

Guy doesnt even grasp that if you released a virus...its now out there...replicating TRILLIONS OF TIMES....then mutating.......*sighs*

What about this manipulated virus.

What COVID-19 Vaccine AstraZeneca contains
One dose (0.5 ml) contains: COVID-19 Vaccine (ChAdOx1-S* recombinant) 5 × 10^10 viral particles (vp)

*Recombinant, replication-deficient chimpanzee adenovirus vector encoding the SARS-CoV-2 Spike glycoprotein

. Produced in genetically modified human embryonic kidney (HEK) 293 cells.

This product contains genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

The "replication resistant" part is where this particular virus cannot spread. Not even once, let alone TRILLIONS OF TIMES (even in all caps). Nor can a non replicating virus mutate.

They took a benign primate virus, and crippled it so it is a 'mule' that cannot produce offspring, and then they added the spike protein so it gets into the cell wall and causes an immune reaction, but it cannot cause an infection that spreads.

whoaaaaaaa omg research

Ever heard of that one? WHOAAAA DUDE HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY DO THIS WITHOUT ROBOTS N STUFFFFFFFFF.

Theres way more herp derps than i realised. Best ignored.

They did use robots and stuff. And it did take a long time. The particular carrier adenovirus has been in use for decades and sticking the spike protein on it took about a year (but because of the work of Drazic and others was already partly done, at least in theory).

Each attempt at a genomic change in the virus required lots of testing to find the bit that worked, and then amplification, to ensure that it would keep happening, then lots of incubation of each change and lots of testing and analysis, to ensure it remained viable and wasn't dead chemistry.

Rinse - repeat ad nauseum.

a reply to: chr0naut
Your post speaks as if there are spike proteins actually in the vaccine.....when there are no actual spike proteins in the vaccine.

The vaccine works by delivering the genetic code of the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein to the body's cells, similarly to the mRNA vaccines. It's not until inside the body the spike protein is produced.

a reply to: chr0naut

With regards your first point the world is much smaller and more connected due to the availability of personal transport and increased population density. Cars, planes, trains, buses and tower blocks render your assertions moot. Covid has been spreading freely before and after lockdowns. Also, we didn’t mass test vast swathes of the population during the Spanish flu to inflate the figures. For someone who appears so rational, I can’t believe you’re so blind to the ruse, maybe it’s purposeful ignorance.

All cause mortality is the Elephant in the room.

a reply to: chr0naut

Let’s hope there’s no mistakes in the process, hopefully they didn’t cultivate using any monkey kidney cells like the good old days when polio vaccines infected the majority of the US population with a carcinogenic DNA virus in the form of SV40.

Knowing what we know now would you inject a vial of the original polio vaccine? A vaccine tainted with a tumour causing monkey virus that we pumped into the arms of children en mass?

Remember how safe and effective that one was?

The world will not look kindly upon people like yourself when the truth comes out.

I literally knew this person would conflate me saying "if you release a virus" meaning the corona virus with the evidence i showed of another manipulated virus....low and behold....THEY DID.

These people cant even read or understand BASIC things....its funny how they seem to be SO GOOD at finding how YOU'RE wrong but ....never seem to be able to find how...THEY'RE wrong or the liars ....its quite frankly spectacular mental compartmentalisation.

But just to make a point.

Both Ad26 and Ad5 were modified to remove the E1 gene to prevent replication outside the HEK 293 cells.[47] For the production of the vaccine, to propagate adenoviral vectors in which the E1 gene was deleted, HEK 293 cells are used, which express several adenoviral genes, including E1.[48][49] However, although rare, homologous recombination between the inserted cellular sequence and the vector sequence can restore the replication capacity to the vector,[50] with less than 100 replicating adenovirus particles per dose of the vaccine.[47]

NOT EVEN ONCE APPARENTLY. So cocksure with their 5 minutes of research.....thats not dangerous at all. Thats not jumping to conclusions at all is it????

errr what does that say herpy derp???? Oh .....it can have replicating viruses in because again guy did 5 minutes research to try and "prove" a specific point wrong, firstly just conflated what i said and also obviously has no idea that the HEK293 cells used contain the missing part of the genome of the adeno virus, the e1 and e3 sections. Yeah its not the SAME exact virus but....the same things can happen. You cannot GUARANTEE the genome is completely intact when you're making zillions of viruses in a vat.

The guy thinks the adeno virus has spike proteins on it to get into the cell for christ sake....NO, its an actual adeno virus and...they can enter cells ...and it goes into the nucleus because its A DNA VIRUS and then an mrna is produced which contains the spike protein and possibly other goodies. Literally has proven how they dont know # like several times and will STILL keep persisting like they're right. They have no shame.
The more you prove them wrong, they have the NEED to try and get you back....its infantile.

linkkkkkk

Anything can mutate thats made of atoms and has a genome......cause all the atoms can move and rearranged...Also ever heard of VIRAL RECOMBINATION???? obviously cause you do research on specific points whenever they come up with no idea what you're talking about. Yeah guess what???? If you have DESTROYED viruses with intact parts of the genome, a completely new virus can form.......from those pieces.

Oh dear oh dear. Bit of advice....you can't go around trying to prove people wrong when they've done years of research and you've done 10 minutes of google searching. Although their level is so low, they dont really get how out of their depth they are. They think everyone thinks like them....because thats all they know. The problem is so many other people dont know and these morons MIGHT convince them.

Jesse Gelsinger (June 18, 1981 – September 17, 1999) was the first person publicly identified as having died in a clinical trial for gene therapy.

Gelsinger suffered from ornithine transcarbamylase deficiency, an X-linked genetic disease of the liver, the symptoms of which include an inability to metabolize ammonia – a byproduct of protein breakdown.

The disease is usually fatal at birth, but Gelsinger had a milder form of the disease, in which the ornithine transcarbamylase gene is mutated in only part of the patient's cells, a condition known as somatic mosaicism. As his deficiency was partial, Gelsinger managed to survive on a restricted diet and special medications.

Gelsinger joined a clinical trial run by the University of Pennsylvania that aimed at developing a treatment for infants born with the severe form of the disease.

On September 13, 1999, Gelsinger was injected with an adenoviral vector carrying a corrected gene to test the safety of the procedure. He died four days later at the age of 18, on September 17, apparently having suffered a massive immune response triggered by the use of the viral vector to transport the gene into his cells, leading to multiple organ failure and brain death.[1]

Seems SO benign right, cause you read a thing and it said that right????? Oh it just must be true, its almost like a business would say "our product is the best" and totally not be lying or playing things down....never surely....

An 18-year-old student died from a blood cot only two weeks after having her Covid vaccination.

Kasey Turner was admitted to hospital after she was experiencing 'thunder clap' headaches. An inquest heard the headaches were the result of thrombosis in her sinus cavity.

She was admitted to Barnsley Hospital's A&E department on the morning of September 23, 2021 with the "worst headache" she had ever experienced. Because of her low platelet count in her blood, doctors initially ruled out a brain haemorrhage.

It was later discovered that the paramedic student was actually suffering from a cerebral venous thrombosis - a blood clot in the sinus cavity. It is believed the blood clot was brought on by the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, and her inquest found doctors at Barnsley Hospital had "missed opportunities" to diagnose the fatal clot, reports Yorkshire Live.

ohhhh

WOOOOOOWWW so benign right??? just a benign little genetically modified chimp virus, couldnt harm a soul right??? couldnt possibly enter the brain right????

A trainee solicitor tragically died from a rare blood clot weeks after taking the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine, an inquest heard today. Oli Akram Hoque, 26, from Ilford, received a dose of the vaccine on March 19 last year before suffering increasingly 'excruciating' headaches.

His condition deteriorated and resulted in his death at Queen's Hospital in Romford, on April 15, 2021 - one month before his 27th birthday. In his written statement to East London Coroners' Court, Oli's grieving dad Bablul Hoque described his son as 'bright, intelligent, and ambitious', recalling his impressive CV which included work at Arsenal FC and the Citizens Advice Bureau.

Mr Hoque said the City University graduate had taken the vaccine in Ilford, where he lived with both parents and 'subsequently complained of headaches'.

Britain's medical regulator recommended under-30s should get an alternative to the AstraZeneca vaccine in early April when it became clear that younger people were at greater risk of the clots.

ohhh hh

Wow seems to be a pattern here, nah just a coincidence right. JUST IGNORE THE BIT AT THE BOTTOM THERE cause you know that might mean you're totally wrong and like thats obviously not the case cause you think the corona virus is more dangerous THAN THE SECOND MOST DEADLY PANDEMIC CAUSING VIRUS IN HISTORY....thats why people are so afraid they go outside with people and dont seem to care.