Medvedev: any weapon, including nuclear weapons, annexed territories

Aha

Russia's Medvedev: new regions can be defended with strategic nuclear weapons

Dmitry Medvedev, the former Russian president, has said that any weapons in Moscow’s arsenal, including strategic nuclear weapons, could be used to defend territories incorporated into Russia from Ukraine.

Medvedev, the deputy chairman of Russia’s Security Council, also said on Thursday that referendums being organised by Russian-installed and separatist authorities in large swathes of occupied Ukrainian territory will take place, and that “there is no going back”:


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So steal parts of somebody elses country, hold a faux referendum down the barrel of the gun, solidify it by threatening your own annihilation, lol

These people are insane, utter losers getting their arses kicked, and already know how its going to end... nobody will ever back down regardless of the nuclear IM NOT BLUFFING THREATS... GTFO it makes a preemptive all the more likely IMHO, cooler heads cannot prevail in the event of such reckless threats from imperialist colonialist psychopaths

There will be no climb down, No backing out, till outright liberation, i hope Russia understands that, if they dont, God Bless

originally posted by: TritonTaranis
including strategic nuclear weapons, could be used to defend territories incorporated into Russia from Ukraine.

Pretty much somes up a psychopath, lets ruin the land so we can own it....anyone who uses a nuke surely needs to grasp that its a stupid concept.

I am sure some dictators would love to nuke the whole planet except for a 200mile radius around themselves and then declare they have won.

Humans are pretty adept at killing each other so no need to ruin the planet while we are at it.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

There would be no benefit for Russia to nuke the land that they are trying to reclaim unless all they desire is wasteland.
Russia won't do that.

I think Russia's real game here is not to storm and conquer. I believe its a war of attrition. Let a few "Stray" shells fly into hospitals and schools and throw in a nuclear plant for good measure.

Wear down the enemy's ability to fight and break their spirit and will. Maybe cut off their fuel supplies just in time for winter to hit and whatever is left of their morale will be utterly destroyed. Their capitulation will be assured.

I think what they mean is they'll strike the Nations they actually have beef with, NOT Ukraine, Ukraine was never a threat, losing another sphere of political influence was, it'll be pointless tbh, nukes are almost pointless on the battlefield unless its a naval fleet or mass formation, which is highly unlikely during Wartime, sure it'll stop an advance on one front but it wins nothing but turning the planet into Mars

New York, Washington, London, Berlin, Paris, Rome, etc Western Capitals will be a target before Ukraine, and it'll amount to wahhh wahhh you beat me im having a tantrum

However im pretty sure every Russian nuke capable asset is being tracked 24/7 and will be the subject to a preemptive just before the complete destruction of Russia should Russian threat become more credible

Loss with dignity Vlad

originally posted by: shaneslaughta
a reply to: TritonTaranis

There would be no benefit for Russia to nuke the land that they are trying to reclaim unless all they desire is wasteland.
Russia won't do that.

I think Russia's real game here is not to storm and conquer. I believe its a war of attrition. Let a few "Stray" shells fly into hospitals and schools and throw in a nuclear plant for good measure.

Wear down the enemy's ability to fight and break their spirit and will. Maybe cut off their fuel supplies just in time for winter to hit and whatever is left of their morale will be utterly destroyed. Their capitulation will be assured.

Not really Europe has enough stock energy to get to 2024

In terms of attrition

HERE is what Russia is now sending to the front lines

What is this? Stalingrad? LMFAO

This war is over, hence the threats

originally posted by: shaneslaughta
a reply to: TritonTaranis

There would be no benefit for Russia to nuke the land that they are trying to reclaim unless all they desire is wasteland.
Russia won't do that.

I think Russia's real game here is not to storm and conquer. I believe its a war of attrition. Let a few "Stray" shells fly into hospitals and schools and throw in a nuclear plant for good measure.

Wear down the enemy's ability to fight and break their spirit and will. Maybe cut off their fuel supplies just in time for winter to hit and whatever is left of their morale will be utterly destroyed. Their capitulation will be assured.

Well to Putin this is not about the land anymore it is all about the power and self image, he doesn´t care what is the result of this other than Russia ( read Putin ) winning. All of what Russia has been doing has a print of not caring, killing civilians , several mass graves of civilians etc. This war has stopped being about the land instead it is all about EGO of Putin.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

I still don't think Russia will ever pull that "Trigger". Nukes are nothing but weapons of terror and they only work when you are the only one with them. With their destructive capability and the fact that even dictators like lil kim have them, it stands to reason that MAD will be the de-facto savior in this sabre rattling campaign.

Even rattle snakes shake their tail to announce their presence. Don't worry Russia, we get it! Your big and powerful.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Haha that one had me dying. I surely hope that is a joke.

What is that a freaking mosin negant? Well you know what they say about effective weapons, the best one is the one that you can use effectively.

I just cant believe that this is the best of Russian weapons. Hell you can practically 3D print an AR15. We would be foolish to think that they are this far behind the technological curve.

originally posted by: dollukka

Well to Putin this is not about the land anymore it is all about the power and self image, he doesn´t care what is the result of this other than Russia ( read Putin ) winning. All of what Russia has been doing has a print of not caring, killing civilians , several mass graves of civilians etc. This war has stopped being about the land instead it is all about EGO of Putin.

This I can see. With the possibility that Putin is on his way out and his loss of image to the rest of the world, I totally can see something like this.

Can you imagine Putin going out in a blaze of glory, hitting the panic button and taking out everyone who ever opposed him in one fell swoop? Yikes

originally posted by: shaneslaughta
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Haha that one had me dying. I surely hope that is a joke.

What is that a freaking mosin negant? Well you know what they say about effective weapons, the best one is the one that you can use effectively.

I just cant believe that this is the best of Russian weapons. Hell you can practically 3D print an AR15. We would be foolish to think that they are this far behind the technological curve.

Russia knows its all down hill from here on out they cant even command 100k troops let alone 300k, their main problem is logistics and palatalization, sure go send 300k Troops over the line they'll be out of ammo in no time the rate they fire lol

A harsh unfix-able lesson in the middle of a fight with a monster alliance defending and upholding the rules based international order Russia didn't want to fit in with for the sake of peace, mostly because of a sad little historical revisionist man called Putin

Psst .. Vlad make it convincing were utterly fked lol

originally posted by: shaneslaughta
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Haha that one had me dying. I surely hope that is a joke.

What is that a freaking mosin negant? Well you know what they say about effective weapons, the best one is the one that you can use effectively.

I just cant believe that this is the best of Russian weapons. Hell you can practically 3D print an AR15. We would be foolish to think that they are this far behind the technological curve.

LMAO its not a joke

There Is another video of a train arriving in Donetsk full of 60 year old T-62 tank from stock grave yard, gets obliterated as soon as it stops lol

300k? better make it 1m

a reply to: TritonTaranis

I guess they shouldn't have joined NATO then. It looks like they wont be members for much longer.

Russia’s brutal and unlawful war of aggression against Ukraine has shattered peace and gravely altered the security environment. In light of its hostile policies and actions, NATO cannot consider Russia to be a partner.

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a reply to: TritonTaranis

a reply to: shaneslaughta

I see Putin is in stage that everything is an option for him unless he is forced to stop. This drafting he has started has a lot of air in it, he said reserve is called about 300 000 but the ministry of defence had been adviced to draft as many as needed. So basicly this full scale draft, possible as soon as necessary. Russians who are able and have double citizenship are fleeing to neigbouring countries. They are scared of two dates 27th and 28th of September. 27th it is intended to end the "referendums" organized by Russia in the "people's republics" of Donetsk and Luhansk, and 28th is the day after when they think that full blown war and drafting will happen.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Guess they're really getting desperate now , eh.

including strategic nuclear weapons, could be used to defend territories incorporated into Russia from Ukraine.

There's a lot of distance between could and would , in theory Brussels Sprouts could be used but I doubt they will.

a reply to: dollukka

The real question is, will it be that simple? Will Putin stop after her reclaims these territories?

By February 2022 as many as 190,000 Russian troops were poised to strike into Ukraine from forward bases in Russia, Russian-occupied Crimea, Belarus, and the Russian-backed separatist enclave of Transdniestria in Moldova. In addition, amphibious units were deployed to the Black Sea under the guise of previously scheduled naval exercises. On February 21 Putin recognized the independence of the self-proclaimed people’s republics of Donetsk and Luhansk, effectively voiding the 2015 Minsk peace agreement. In the early morning hours of February 24 Putin announced the beginning of a “special military operation,” and explosions could be heard in cities across Ukraine. Ukrainian Pres. Volodymyr Zelensky said that his country would defend itself, and Western leaders condemned the unprovoked attack, promising swift and severe sanctions against Russia.

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Wasn't this an internal Ukrainian issue to begin with? Putin seen an opportunity to reclaim part of that old USSR territory and struck? With the original call up of 190k troops for those two relatively small regions seemed like overkill to me. Now another 300k possible being drafted and to what end? I suppose the world will see in a few days.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: TritonTaranis

Guess they're really getting desperate now , eh.

including strategic nuclear weapons, could be used to defend territories incorporated into Russia from Ukraine.

There's a lot of distance between could and would , in theory Brussels Sprouts could be used but I doubt they will.

Its MINE you imperialists MINE

LOL

a reply to: shaneslaughta

Well Putin has referred himself as a tsar Peter the Great and wants greater Russia, areas what was in soviet rule and areas which were communist as Poland, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Yugoslavia, Albania, and Czechoslovakia were. He admires times of soviet rule and Stalin has been put on pedestal as a great leader . So will he stop with Ukraine.. i don´t think so.

Putin has been put in the corner in world politics by his own fault surely. From this corner he most likely feel that he has nothing more to lose and is ready to do the most horrendous acts a leader can do. He is currently in the stage that where there is no coming back. . . this makes him dangerous for whole world peace.

a reply to: shaneslaughta


They are threatening to nuke countrys that supply weapons to Ukraine in order to defend 'russian territory'.


russia already failed in it's 'war of attrition'.

a reply to: TritonTaranis

Just about the entire United Nations will come out in condemnation against them.

Russia fires off a tactical nuke in defense of these annexed states and they are as apt to shoot themselves in the foot given the proximity to there own lands.

Plus i don't see NATO nations reacting well to any sort of use of nukes on the battlefield.

NATO could cripple Russia and destroy 90% of her ability to strike using conventional weapons alone.