Behold: The Little Demon Society

How to even start this one? My whole life, which mind you is a dumpster fire these days, I've delt with or rather endured these "Little Demon People". And even the little demon carriers that know the most about how hard I've fought for it not to be, their little demon had them pile on to said dumpster fire.

You see their little demons are bound to jealousy. And even if they are worth a million dollars, and you're in your most devastated year of your adult life, they'll still bear a grin while systematically working to waste your time and ultimately not pay you for work or whatever specific of interaction you have, to undermine and further ensure your dumpster fire keeps burning hot.

Especially, if you mention it was a little demon person relationship that got you there in the first place.

That's how "insane" these people are.

I'm talking about people with Personality Disorders. You can literally have 40+ books on subjects of psychology, and still barely find a chapter on this hot mess. It's the next level in such research, even though the people that have derailed your life the most directly and personally, bet they had the "Little Demon".

Sadly, I'm something of a Expert on this matter.

You ever heard the one about psychiatrists need their own therapists? These sorts are the reason there, its all potential levels of traumatism in enduring them. Commoner therapists start questioning their own sanity.

And I've endured these people at all the most critical stages or points in my life.

I've thought about it so much from said endurance, I've realized the entire notion of "exorcisms" this is where it came from. We wouldnt have the movies without it. I'm so clear on this I'd bet my life on it.

It goes like this, we've got all these people (split personality disorder people [narcissistic, borderline, histrionic, etc]) that there's the nice little guy version of them, and then sometimes you get the Little Demon version.

I get that term from... I didnt come up with it, my ex that's what she called it. HERS. Another best friend of mine, my brother, he calls it "becoming the devil".

And "The Church", they know! There's no Exorcist Program. Loved some of the movies, the series, but at the end this thing is so real I even argue its the original premise of "The Devil".

So "where" does it come from? Well, both "nature" and "nurture". Childhood traumas alone, or really crappy parents, or other extremes perhaps, can manifest a child into such a thing. But, there also tends to be a genetic component. It's already in the DNA, meaning to out-think it, especially without say specialized therapists, good luck there. Especially since, these types they're all actors. Their biggest fear of all eternity, is being exposed for what they are.

Meaning they tend to be the most resistant to treatment. Their life mission is to avoid it. Whereas, my impression is, consider the people out there right now dealing with "Depression". Sure you've got people life has just sucked for a long time or whatever, that can induce that state. Others are, damnit, some say genetic chemical snafu. But to me I expect something like half of them at least, consider 'hey if I go see someone life might not suck so bad anymore'.

But not the Little Demons. They dont inherently operate on objectives, but directives they definitely do. Directive #1 dont get 'caught'. That is, exposed. Because when your one of these creatures, and people know how to read you, you're not "special" anymore. As this is all ego we're talking about here. Where that's where it tends to start with these people, convincing themselves they're special.

Directive #2: Wrecking ball whatever they can, whatever you give them to, to ensure they stay "more special" than you 9and hating you deep down for every way you are).

Ultimately you're dealing with an extreme form of Defense Mechanism. And that is key to understanding everything that flows from them.

Sins of the father! Were they talking about... what were they talking about there? What, you're going to eat snip because your dad ripped someone off or something? I argue this is it, passing down the little demon. Perpetuating the same trauma your dad mom whatever had to done to them to make them that way, down to you so you do it too. Dont get a therapist!! Keep the cycle going.

Childhood traumas, alone, in homo sapiens, is enough to make people this way. So think back, imagine how traumatic humanity tended to play out for children like forever. 800BC, whenever, all the parents wiped out. Enslavery. It's still going on enough on this planet today, in such terms.

Alcoholism is passed down. Where until the 20th Century booze was the only thing safe to drink.

Where stuff like booze, alone, helps ensure little demon people run amok in their spaces, across those within them.

And so far this has been purely the Individual Sense of the subject....

Today, where before it was mainly the results of traumatized DNA potentially coupled with actual childhood trauma, with a penchant for total avoidance of treatment, POOF!

Now, there be mass + social media, top down initiatives, bent on pushing this same kind of mania across all the masses.

And its not just me saying this, they're literally targeting like kindergartners with actual sexualization agendas, supposedly there's some sort of 'movement' to rationalize pedophiles. I heard this NAMBLA acronym the other day for the 'modern sense' I dared not even memorize it. When not forgetting is a hard thing to do for me. One of the many reasons I draw jealousy from these people, and they set about destroying me in the end.

To them you're just "acting like you're better than everyone else". Them, the actors. The liars. The wrecking ball creatures. I had to tell my 'brother' the other day, even now, wherever I go I try to make lemonade, wherever you go you piss in the punch. That one actually shut him up finally he was blowing up my phone projecting all of his dark personality flaws onto me and then speaking of them like literally I was a piece of ____ for having them. But they weren't mine. Projection. It's going on mass scale now. Hopefully this old traditional take on whats going on might help.

Here's a concept I've been exploring of late:

Trauma causes DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder), and therefore creates Alters.

People live with Alters.

What happens to the Alters when people die?

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Definition of Alter from Trauma dissociation dot com / alters

Dissociative identity disorder was previously known as Multiple Personality Disorder (MPD), sometimes incorrectly called "split personality", it is characterized by the presence of more than one sense of identity within a single human body. These alternate identities are commonly known as alters or dissociated parts. A person with multiple identities is often referred to as a multiple. What are Alters? Other terms for alter include: alternate identity, dissociative identity, distinct identity, personality state, personality, dissociated part, self-state, part, part of the mind, part of the self, dissociative part of the personality.

A person with Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID), or a similar form of Other Specified Dissociative Disorder (previously called Dissociative Disorder Not Otherwise Specified, or DDNOS-1) has a fragmented personality. A person with DID experiences himself or herself as having separate identities, known as alters, or alternate identities.

Alters take over control of the person's body or behavior at various times. Each can function independently. All the alters together make up the person's whole personality. Alters typically develop from dissociation caused by prolonged early childhood trauma, although attachment problems and persistent neglect in very early childhood are also known factors. People with alters may refer to their alters as "parts inside, aspects, facets, ways of being, voices, multiples, selves, ages of me, people, persons, individuals, spirits, demons, others," etc. Alter identities are sometimes incorrectly referred to as ego states, or even alter egos, but these states exist in people without alters and do not involve amnesia, dissociative symptoms, or clinical distress.

originally posted by: NobodySpecial268

Trauma causes DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder),

Okay, thank you, without even hitting The Google, this socially induced REACTION SOCIETY mass scale form of this thing, this DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) sounds like the more proper fit for the NOT truly raised dna etc types mainly highlight above, but rather the purely social media induced mass scale form we're getting at here.

Now the effing parents are following the social indoctrination propaganda and participating in abusing their own children to said scheme. This thing so raw and relevant I argue we could go on about the scheme for endless pages without even having time to get to the ends.

Now your talking. Billy Milligan comes to mind. Now how well has this been understood and by whom and to what end. I know the human mind/persona is far more pliable anyone likes to comfortably accept and the traits that some people might believe are intrinsic to themselves are in fact not and are subject to change quit easily through outside influences.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

a reply to: godsovein

"The Little Demon Society" got my attention, along with reading your OP. Enough to know you have practical experience with Alters in some of their forms.

For myself, I am not psychollogically trained, yet have practical experience with Alters too. Mostly as an interest in Alters in the paranormal sense.

Could you simplify this paragraph below for me?

DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) sounds like the more proper fit for the truly raised dna, or rather the purely social media induced mass scale form we're getting at here.

Yeah, it is a big subject just in orthodox psychology alone. I have some insights into the the subject of interaction with the (deceased(?)) Alters. I guess one might tentatively include in this catagorie some; spirits, poltergiests, guides, ghosts Orbs, and so on.

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a reply to: Athetos

Now your talking. Billy Milligan comes to mind. Now how well has this been understood and by whom and to what end. I know the human mind/persona is far more pliable anyone likes to comfortably accept and the traits that some people might believe are intrinsic to themselves are in fact not and are subject to change quit easily through outside influences.

I think one has to be very carefull with this subject. It is beyond my comprehensive understanding for sure. I do have a bit of psychic ability though and have looked into the so-called "schizophrenia" and related cases. Sometimes some of the "Alters" may have origins outside of the presonality. Other people's Alters for example.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

What thats about is, the big take I could write the main piece about is, its genetic and or traumatic (like deep seated inserted trauma very early in life nightmare stuff + sustained from there on), makes this sort of creature.

But now the game is mass + social media indoctrinationary propaganda induced formats of the same nightmare forms of people, game. And that requires new specific categorizations.

Where the technical term thing you presented just made sense to fill that 'void'.

a reply to: godsovein

I think I get what your saying there.

Kinda like saying we have personal Alters from personal trauma, say from an alien abduction scenario. We can also have a mass trauma event such as the 9/11 event in New York City possibly creating "collective Alters"?

originally posted by: NobodySpecial268

Yeah, it is a big subject just in orthodox psychology alone. I have some insights into the the subject of interaction with the (deceased(?)) Alters. I guess one might tentatively include in this catagorie some; spirits, poltergiests, guides, ghosts Orbs, and so on.

You just dont want to know the depths these people will go to to subvert your young life, upbringing. FUTURE. None of that matters to them.

These actor people.

My stepdad, was around some 15 years my mom couldnt get rid of him. You see sober he was generally actually pretty cool, funny, had stories, tales he told you see he was a liar and that comes naturally. Endless directions I could go with all this.

This guy, when I was 15, and all my pupils we were experimenting with drugs, well while my mom worked nights he got into crack benders. This mofo, true pathological liar. These people beLIEve their own lies. He tried so hard to imprint his little demon into me. Nothing 'properly physical'. Mental bs tho. He tried to teach me that no matter what, his own words even if they have video evidence of whatever you still deny it to the end. Same times he got me smoking coc aine for the summer, all to ensure I wouldnt snitch on him to my mom that he was doing it. INSISTED its okay it isnt crack. While she worked nights. This guy, he'd swindle you out of your last dollar and you'd thank him for it, I used to joke back then.

I can go on and on. He's just one. They al tried so hard to make me them, and it never worked. And then the rest have torpedoed my life in whatever ways they could figure out to attempt.

And now, this sort of people, thats the mass scale agenda.

a reply to: godsovein

Maybe I do, maybe I don't.

I know a girl who had a "difficult" childhood. Her philosophy, when she 'got out of there' was:

"Forgiveness doesn't work, they just do it again. Learn to understand them, then you can avoid being in the same position again."

There is a rather intellegent young lady who put together a rather good seven part series on understanding mind control. This a little three minute video of her's that will link you to her seven part series "PROGRAMMED". Look in her playlist below the youtube video.

This is her (Kudos to ATS user xuenchen for original video post):

originally posted by: xuenchen

I usually avoid the mind control subject here on ATS, yet it came to the point where I had to understand the basics of Alters and how they are created.

a reply to: godsovein

Your OP made me laugh this morning as I drink my first coffee and vape my first balloon of kaya. You should feel flattered that I used up all this good neural rocket fuel on you and to write this response. Should I follow your words and your "little demon" thesis or stick to the cosmos as defined by Jesus and the prophets? I bet you know what decision I have made already.

The Hebrew and Christian understanding of sin tradtionally defines evil as being from NEGATIVE ADVERSARIES. That's what acts against our best interests. Judaism and Chritstianity are all about YES and NO. That is why Aaron was instructed to wear URIM and THUMMIM in the High Priest's Breastplate and was allowed to seek YES and NO answers from El Elyon. We have to consider the whole because it is a harmony if we address one specific of the original Herbrew interpretation of the cosmos and all in it. The effect of this is to split the world into YES and NO. Jesus specifically says that anything other than YES and NO is adverse. That is why He says His Words will divide. He said He did not come to bring peace, but a sword of division - between YES and NO. This sets a precedence of duality in our minds. Our whole perception of the universe is spliced between YES and NO, of what is good and what is evil, what helps us in our lives and those around us and what destroys us behaviourly. If it destroys us it will destroy whoever comes into contact with us unless they take measures to protect themselves when interacting with us.

Action and movement requires decision making. Decision making is all about YES and NO. YES and NO bring clarity of purpose, development and evolution. What lies between YES and NO is a swamp that has no purpose, stagnant water that does not move and has no definition because no action has been committed. YES and NO require commitment. It is like getting married when you make a decision.

We are advised by our Teachers and Authors in Judaism and Christianity that although we must live according to YES and NO our ability to define what is positive and negative is severely flawed and we are bound to make mistake after mistake. Our beginings do not know our ends. WE have a consciousness that has noticed good and evil, YES and NO, but we are not truly conscious of consequences and how our decision making and behaviour will play out in the real world.

This is called the human condition of genetically inherited ORIGINAL SIN. You must go back to what SIN originally meant to understand what it is, but even then you will still not truly understand what it is because we have not been told yet and our consciousness is not able to define it properly. That is our state. That is our SIN. We have eaten from a tree of consciousness that no other animal has done. We are thrown out of Eden and the kingdom of animals and instinct where YES and NO is not considered consciously at all. Any attempt to go back to that animist simplicity will be met with a sword that guards Eden from us. We are exiles and have to wander this landscape on a learning curve until we are set free once we are evolved enough to be set free; "DELIVERED FROM EVIL". If we are delivered from evil we are delivered from adversity and everything that acted negatively to destroy. It means that NO will be cast into the Lake of Fire. Saying YES and NO will no longer be necessary as the former state will have no relevance. IF we say NO to our pet dog they do not understand why we told them NO, but they do it because it pleases us who they have chosen as their first in command. It is genetically programmed into them to behave like this. It is not even open to debate as a dog's mind will never need to know about why YES and why NO.

The Bible tells us that we are still creatures like the other creatures (Job's Lesson). The Almighty tells us that it is better we trust the first in command beyond ourselves. That is based on the premise that we are flawed in our handling of YES and NO and need a teacher constantly who knows the score better than us. I admit that Jesus knows a lot more about YES and NO than I ever will. His Words have proved it to me as His YES and NO give me better clarity than my own confusion where often I said YES only to discover that it would have been much wiser to have said NO.

The SINS of the Fathers are indeed visited upon all the generations after. Some sins continue many generations. You must look at the big picture to understand this. The meaning is related to our lives politically, genetically, socially and historically. We are still paying a heavy price for thr sins of slavery are we not? It is still affecting all of us. The inherited genetic damage I have may be related to the diseases and bad hygiene, the poverty and malnutrition from a previous ancestor or even the sins of a king who got deposed because they lost touch with their people and made their people suffer because of their greed. The fact that an ancestor gambled away a fortune and the subsequent poverty of their great grand children clearly demonstrates how YES and NO make a difference even three or five generations down the line. Our wanton destruction of the environment and couldn't care less attitude will possible destroy the lives of our very children.

THE SINS OF THE FATHERS AND MOTHERS SHALL BE VISITED ON EVERY GENERATION THAT FOLLOWS until it is filtered out by a few generations of good decision making.

The response of the Jewish people to the Romans and to the newly emerged religion that would create a billion followers within two thousand years was visited upon the Hebrews for two thousand years before they found their way back home through proper decision making and building their culture house so strongly it took the world by storm. When you are thrown into a live or die scenario it is sink or swim time. If you can swim you will become the strongest swimmer of all if you practice hard enough for long enough. That is the antdote to inherited problems your Mom and Dad gave you. They are to blame, but only as much as you are.

Jesus said forgive them because they don't know what they are doing. They think they know how to say YES and NO, but their YES means NO and their NO means YES. That is how warped humans easily become at the drop of a hat. The ground between YES and No is as small as a two letter word and creates a gulf that is as wide as the beginning to the end of the big bang.

We can either live in a world of positive and negative where there exists consciousness, form, clarity, order and evolution. We can live in a swamp of formless not doing much of anything other than living to die. I prefer to develop the theme. I am a pupil of URIM and THUMMIM. I want the Almighty to point out what is YES and NO for me as I know from bitter experience that I'm quite useless doing it by myself and if I don't do it at all then only nada happens.

Life is in a dumpster? Don't confuse having little, being rejected and dejected with it being a dump. I have seen palaces made of jewels that stink to high heaven and I have seen a pile of treasure in an African hut on the Savannah, a sweet savour unto the Lord. Even if we're really hard up we can tidy up the dump of our lives as easy as cleaning out a cupboard. You just have to make a few YES and NO decisions and stick to them. YES and NO evolves us. Formless "maybe, maybe not" only stagnates us.

a reply to: Tarantula777

Dont you get it?

If even half of this is true about -however- many little demon people there are, that we're built with such weaknesses, WTF kind of 'god' would make us like this, like "itself"????

a reply to: NobodySpecial268
The mention of poltergeists made me think. Poltergeists have been connected to adolescents going through puberty in a number of investigations. Puberty might be enough to form an alter, at least a mild or temporary one.
I wonder if the trauma of a mass casualty plane might have formed alters that could explain the Ghosts of Flight 401?

To be clear, I understand the psychological concept of alters, but what if it is possible for alters to disassociate from a physical body.

some people are so self-obsessed they will say or do anything to get what they want
they will use you and forget you
and, as mentioned, they will believe their own lies.

I don't know if its a software issue (emotional trauma, childhood issues) or hardware (physical brain issues, biochemistry) but I avoid these people as much as possible.

there is such a thing as literal demon possession.

alcohol and drugs can drastically change some people. they used to call it the 'demon rum' for a reason. I avoid those ones too.

really painful when a loved one is in this condition. you can only help them so much.

I've heard horror stories of addicts beating and robbing parents and grandparents to get $ for their habits. really is a form of insanity.

originally posted by: godsovein
WTF kind of 'god' would make us like this

'demons' . . . simply created out of ignorance,
example- my ex. who as a child experienced his parents divorce.
Not understanding why, carried his animosity into his adult life.
Everyone in his life is a target to 'blame' (in his own mind)
People tend to be self centered, entitled, erroneously thinking
that the world needs to revolve around but themselves.
Btw
Aaron was but a sinner himself
. . . thinking otherwise, is the start of cults.


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originally posted by: butcherguy
To be clear, I understand the psychological concept of alters, but what if it is possible for alters to disassociate from a physical body.

In my experience, the idea they're so super special they can remote view and everything. And into astrology type mania. And I mean so crazy about it playing it for hours, playing horoscopes that arent even their sign or even current for hours on end and getting high on it.

So, okay, somehow tarot cards have anything to do with like the 'stars' out there, and what is that even about, gravity I guess? So you go on youtube, pull up some reader, whom happens to be talking to as many people as will check it out. Say 100,000. Some of them get that. Fine, perhaps there is something to all of such noise. But assuming so, in any kind of logical sense, you'd have to be right there for their very special gift to have any hope o f actual connection.

NOPE!

Dude or dudette shuffles cards, they somehow whatever with the stars in the sky, and its so killer that anyone and everyone that plays the youtube clips well that has anything to do with them.

I mean right out the gates here, how did the cards themselves become magical? Was it the paper stock? Maybe the printer machine itself? Or its magical ink? maybe blessed by some super high level sort, well why dont they use that angle to help sell the cards?

These sorts will never even question it like that, and even if you do it has no effect.

The only thing that ever made sense to me about it, was thinking about that opening scene of They Live, Roddy is watching TV through a window, and in the scene she goes "and the people watch me, and they love me".

[cant find the clip]

So I go, "the stars they watch me, and they love me".

Which makes an ironic sense, these people are actors. Naturally they look up to actors, you know, "stars".

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originally posted by: ElGoobero
there is such a thing as literal demon possession.

alcohol and drugs can drastically change some people. they used to call it the 'demon rum' for a reason. I avoid those ones too.

No brother.

These people get by by wearing a mask. Their act. But when they do drugs, the mask comes off. And if they get into the wrong or is it the right ones, eventually their face literally changes is forever becomes the demon.

I have very close friends I grew up with, I moved away, whatever. They got into roxy's and meth, and some in mind in particular, they were absolutely beautiful. But they had this high level little demon mom, she ensured their DNA got the little demon fully installed. They got into the 'right' drugs. And now when everyone else and I see the mugshots, they dont even look like them. Just look like demons. The drugs peeled the mask off. Permanently.

a reply to: butcherguy

The mention of poltergeists made me think. Poltergeists have been connected to adolescents going through puberty in a number of investigations. Puberty might be enough to form an alter, at least a mild or temporary one.

I don't know about puberty, but go back to the crib and the night-terrors.

I wonder if the trauma of a mass casualty plane might have formed alters that could explain the Ghosts of Flight 401?

My wife and I always save a part of our old car when we get a newer car. The part goes onto our new one to bring the 'spirit' across, number plates for example get transfered. So the idea of the ghosts of Flight 401 makes sense to me. Especially where the parts from the crashed plane have "ghosts" with them.

I once 'looked' into a case of a rural road location where there were repeated accidents, the first being a fatal. A motorcyclist with pillion passenger lost control on the corner and crashed. After that accident drivers would crash at the same location.

I'm a tad on the psychic side so looked into it for the nearby resturant owner who was concerned.

The "ghost" of the motorcyclist would run onto the road at the approach of cars and try to flag them down for help. Some car drivers would see him and a crash resulted in trying to avoid him.

The solution was to visit the location and inform the motorcyclist he was deceased and his pillion survived.

Accident trauma. He was an Alter caught in a loop.

To be clear, I understand the psychological concept of alters, but what if it is possible for alters to disassociate from a physical body.

The deceased motorcyclist "ghost" was an Alter and was still there months after his death. So "yes" alters can disassociate from a physical body.

I do some psychic work on a so-called "schizophrenic" kid and one of her Alters visits me when the girl is asleep. I am in Australia and the girl is in the USA, so my 4PM is her 4AM. For a while I assumed the visitor was a sleeper/dreamer. Now I know the visitor is one of the girl's Alters. That's when I realised I needed to learn about Alters and DID. Not "one patient", "one of many" ; )

Maybe a thread on what I have discovered on the subject in the not too distant future.