Putin's first address to nation since invasion has been 'delayed'

Vladimir Putin was supposed to be giving his first speech since the invasion this evening but it's now been delayed until tomorrow , it's believed Putin wants to escalate the "special operation" to a full scale war and there seems to be evidence of coming martial law.... to suppress dissent no doubt,

Sergei Markov, a Russian political scientist who is a former close advisor to Vladimir Putin, says the president's national address has been delayed until tomorrow.

He announced the news on his official Telegram channel.

This would appear to have been confirmed by a statement posted by the editor of Russian state media news outlet RT, Margarita Simonyan, who simply wrote "go to sleep" on Telegram.

We'll bring you more on this as we get it.

"We've had discussions in the State Duma about expanding the Criminal Code in situations of martial law, wartime or mobilisation.

"Now, all of those words have been avoided so far in this special military operation and the Kremlin has consistently denied that it will even consider mobilising the country's young men, but suddenly the state parliament is talking about what to do in exactly that scenario and it would seem to be laying a legal framework should the Kremlin decide on martial mobilisation or actually declaring this a full-scale war."
news.sky.com...

We will see tomorrow but for now the arguments within the Kremlin would seem to be continuing.

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If the regions have their votes (ie "Yes we want to join Russia" or "No we dont want to be part of Ukraine" as only options on the ballots), his speech will no doubt involve declaring full scale war on evil Ukraine if they invade innocent Russia. It's self defense after all.

a reply to: gortex

National mobilisation

Hasn’t reached Putin desk

Already signed into law

Ok vlad your call again

CUCK

Still a few hours left for mass defection…

originally posted by: alldaylong
a reply to: gortex

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Oi Oi Winston

originally posted by: merka
If the regions have their votes (ie "Yes we want to join Russia" or "No we dont want to be part of Ukraine" as only options on the ballots), his speech will no doubt involve declaring full scale war on evil Ukraine if they invade innocent Russia. It's self defense after all.

Words whispered through prison bars lose their charm

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Is this it, is this the beginning to the end Putin,
Are you going to doom the world over some farm lands ?
I am going to be really disappointed to get nuked right now, just got a new job.

originally posted by: Spacespider
Is this it, is this the beginning to the end Putin,
Are you going to doom the world over some farm lands ?
I am going to be really disappointed to get nuked right now, just got a new job.

Historically, the west, the MIC, certainly has.

a reply to: gortex


I'm wondering what difference declaring a war would make in getting their asses handed to them.
nothing will change as far as equipment or manpower on their side.

on the other hand if he does it's sure to increase the amount of weapons and support from other countries for Ukraine and i would dare say a increase in volunteers from other countries. which again would just increase the speed in which their asses are handed to them.

only one reason i can guesstimate is it frees him up for use of nuclear weapons. but surly he can't expect that russia would come out of that in any kinda shape to control Ukraine or even his own country, i'm guessing other countries would retaliate after his refusal to turn himself over for war crimes, russia would be turned into a burning cinder with hardly anyone left alive and the ones left wouldn't be in any shape to fight.

who knows the mind of a - _ -ktard

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: gortex


I'm wondering what difference declaring a war would make in getting their asses handed to them.
nothing will change as far as equipment or manpower on their side.

on the other hand if he does it's sure to increase the amount of weapons and support from other countries for Ukraine and i would dare say a increase in volunteers from other countries. which again would just increase the speed in which their asses are handed to them.

only one reason i can guesstimate is it frees him up for use of nuclear weapons. but surly he can't expect that russia would come out of that in any kinda shape to control Ukraine or even his own country, i'm guessing other countries would retaliate after his refusal to turn himself over for war crimes, it would be turned into a burning cinder with hardly anyone left alive and the ones left wouldn't be in any shape to fight.

who knows the mind of a - _ -ktard

What difference will it make going full mobilization compared to the limited op as of now?

Seriously?

Ukraine has been struggling with the limited “SMO” to get them out.

And that’s with Zelensky going around with a beggars bowl asking for funds and help for a long time lol.

My guess is, the East and south will go independent.

If NATO could help the Muslim terrorist extremists in Kosovo 99’ to get independence from Serbia,

What’s the difference?

Is this the same type of 'delayed' they seem to use all the time when threatening the use of nukes?..

If so ill set my clock for this 'address' sometime in 2034... which is gonna be trippy given putlers probably gonna be dead by then.

originally posted by: Imhere
What difference will it make going full mobilization compared to the limited op as of now?

Ukraine has been struggling with the limited op too, get them out.

And that’s with Zelensky going around with a beggars bowl asking for funds and help for a long time lol.

My guess is, the East and south will go independent.

So, your saying the great million+ man army the ruZZians claim they can field wouldnt make a difference? are you trying to tell us with out trying to tell us that said million man army is bunk? half the men in that army probably dont even exist as other than a fake name on paper... also how would you guys equip said army, your running out of almost all your equipment doing this limited op?.. and im affraid looting washing machines for chips aint gonna help much in that area.

Ukraines been struggling? what? They arent the ones calling home to parents and wives talking of mass routing, lack of supplies and inept commanders with no care for their safety.

Zelenskys been doing good, keeping the war in the western publics eye, we have a bad habit of becoming apathetic quickly and he knows it, it aint 'begging', its a daily reminder of the situation... thats called being smart.

'independent' yeah... riiiiiiight, thats what you'd call that. If your government is installed by an another country how independent are you?

a reply to: BernnieJGato

FWIW, I'm *mostly* skeptical that Putin would push that particular button, on account of India, China, and Pakistan's own far bigger troop numbers (2 billion+ citizens to 140 million -- you do the troop math there) And arsenals. Russia isn't the only one with the Idiot's Checkmate in stock over there.

a reply to: BernnieJGato

The EU would become frozen, broken economy, lacking food, resources and energy without Russia.
A hit to Russia would devastate the EU, decades before recovery and millions would freeze and starve to death, never mind globally

The war isn’t just being played out In the trenches of Ukraine, the bigger picture is the stability of the EU and it’s people, the real pawns in this game

So many people here are so short sighted, watch the videos and think Ukraine has a chance when all of Europe are losing everything
This is about crashing super economies, famine, ending fiat currency, a global power shift and you think a nuke will help, how?

a reply to: Imhere


"What’s the difference?"



russian propagandists failed to prevent Ukraine from obtaining the means to defend itself.

That is the difference.

a reply to: Raggedyman


The same EU that recently told russia to keep it's gas to itself?

a reply to: BernnieJGato

I have no idea about Russian war laws and protocols but if it is scalled up to "war" status, I would imagine that would give more access to bombings, troops, drafts, and basically more use of higher-end weapons that will create alot of civilian casaulities.

I doubt he would go nuclear as that could give western nations and excuse to enter the war and start WW3.

I'd be interested to hear from someone who knows a bit about how Russia operates.

a reply to: CptGreenTea


I probably don't know anything more about russia than you do, but what you described is exactly what russian teevee people have been saying for several weeks.

Well not exactly, the russian teevee people and 'guest' generals also say that this would allow the use of 'tactical' nukes on NATO countries, always specifically mentioning the UK, that supply Ukraine with arms.

For some reason they stress every time that it would only be 'tactical' nukes and definitely not 'strategic' nukes'. But they also describe the UK aftermath as a 'martian landscape'.

Search the tube for 'Russian Media Monitor' for plenty of examples of this.

a reply to: Imhere

putin was doing a full court press when he first invaded and failed to accomplish his capture of Kyiv.
then had to regroup to the south all while losing

tanks ( estimates from 1300 to 2100, estimates where they started the war with 2700), apc (4,484), and 5500 other vehicles. on the tank deal there is some talk about russia having 12,000 tank in total. most of which are instoreage and mre than likely poorly maintained. even if they were their old relics that have the basic jack iin the box turret design. not much use on a modern battle field as seen in the 72's 84's, and most of the 90's.

troops( estimates from 1300 to 80,000 injured or killed) in massive numbers, in fact it is so bad the duma passed a law to toughen punishment for desertion and self inflicted wounds if committed during military mobilisation or combat situations, plus he's got his wagner mercs recuiritng prisoner, and the fire fight in kherson is rumored to be have been between Wanger and his Chechen mercs Kadyrov, that doesn't say much for moral of russian troops now does it.
plus rumors of more conscription of all ages.

aircraft ( estimates 77 to 234 aircraft, 205 helicopters and as many as 853 drones.) and still hasn't established air superiority with Ukraine still have 80% of their 69 aircraft they started with.

flag ship of russian navy turned into a submarine, estimates are 11 ships and boats sunk, and all the rest moved to Sevastopol along with some of their subs.

all figure estimates i gave come from all kinds of reporting sources ab=nd rounded up to the best of my recollection with out digging up a bunch of sources. 3 guesses who the low ball ones come from. i won't count the first two.

they have the problems now, declaring war is not gonna change any of that. as i said all that it will do if he intensifies and goes with full mobilization will be a increase in supplies and support from other countries and speed up the ass handing.

now he could be trying to goad NATO into a fight, but that wouldn't be a smart move at all. if Ukraine can do that by themselves just imagine what NATO could do with a can of whoop dat ass.

a reply to: BernnieJGato


It's 4 am in Moscow now, did putin ever give the scheduled speech, or did they say the 'delay' would be 'days'?

I thought 'delay' meant minutes or perhaps hours?