Do you have any question about *Jihad* ???

Alsalamu Alaykum
Peace on you all

Unfortunatly, many people, especially westerns, are carrying wrong ideas about Islam and JIHAD.

I am a Muslim from Syrian Arab Republic and I am honored to be in your forum.

If you have any question about what Islam say about JIHAD, The stupid guys like Osama, Zarqawi, Zawahiri, etc, and other questions concerning that, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.


Sencirely,
Islam.


[edit on 5-4-2005 by John bull 1]

i actualy have kind of a dumb question, but can you answer it really quickly?....

how do you spell jihad in arabic?.....is it jimm, haa, alif, dall?

I suppose to start with, who all is allowed to call for Jihad, and what would the goal be? Is it just for religious purposes? For instance the US invaded Iraq (right or not) but they aren't saying that Iraqi's should change their religious views. Wouldn't this just be a normal war, and not Jihad?

I beleive that muslims as a whole shouldnt be treated as if they are all like Osama, and Zarqawi, the American Pawns in this game.

But for all the suicide bombings, beheadings, attacks, people lost in BALI, 911 and so forth JIHAD IS something I think should have ALL its members gathered up, sent to TASMANIA along with all mass murderers and rapists and let what ever country perform nuclear testingo n the island..

solve a few problems.
the main 1,

1/ remove INBREEDING from the genepool
2/ remove Jihad from the genepool
3/ reduce costs in prison systems.


Man, im stil trying to find a negative to this idea!

I heard that Jihad does not actually translate to "holy war." Is this true?

Also, do you believe that al-CIAda, I mean al-Qaeda, is an actual threat? I think they are used as the terror boogeyman.

And what about Zarqawi? How come he has been killed twice and arrested at least 3-4 times. Is he a super terrorist?

Can you give me a general sketch of the beliefs of Islam? I have little knowledge of the faith, but I am curious to learn more about it. These days, you don't exactly hear the best things about it, so I assume those things are not true.

Originally posted by GlobalDisorder
I beleive that muslims as a whole shouldnt be treated as if they are all like Osama, and Zarqawi, the American Pawns in this game.

But for all the suicide bombings, beheadings, attacks, people lost in BALI, 911 and so forth JIHAD IS something I think should have ALL its members gathered up, sent to TASMANIA along with all mass murderers and rapists and let what ever country perform nuclear testingo n the island..

solve a few problems.
the main 1,

1/ remove INBREEDING from the genepool
2/ remove Jihad from the genepool
3/ reduce costs in prison systems.


Man, im stil trying to find a negative to this idea!

Yo, what's wrong with you? You obviously have no idea what Jihad really is. Damn, the man comes in peace, and you want to nuke everybody who's for jihad? What if he's for jihad? Did you think about that?

And please, PLEASE don't blame the jihadists for 9/11, because they had not the means nor the things to gain from it. But, guess who had both and is most likely responsible for 9/11...

I still have not had someone tell me why the war games on 9/11, with AIRPLANES FLYING INTO BUILDINGS, didn't help us during the attack. Oh yeah, "we never heard of such a plan..."

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Islam,

Welcome! I am really glad that you have found your way to these boards. It is good to see people from all over the world, from all religions and ideologies having access to a forum where they can exchange information. This can hopefully lead to a better understanding of each other.

I don't have a question regarding the Jihad, but I have a question regarding Syria. Is internet access easily available over there? Thanks in advance and again welcome!

Blobber


[edit on 4-4-2005 by Blobber]

What if he is for Jihad?
I lost friends in Bali, and all i heard was these suicide bombers claiming jihad.

all you hear is jihad this jihad that.
I still to this day havent heard a POSITIVE reason come out of jihad, accept death and destruction.

the US wasnt behind 911.

Why would they bring down a pinaccle of there economy in the Trade Centre's?
Why would they leave so much conspiracy around the Pentagon.. in fact why attack the pentagon ????????? wouldnt the WTC of been enough?

911 was definaetly an outside attack,
it goes all the way back to the WTC in 93, Ramzi Yousef on JIHAD Trying to bring them down.

JIHAD almost sounds like a drug, these F***N finatics take to justify murdering civilians..

JUST LIKE THE US IS MURDERERING civilians every day in iraq,
the next 911 on US Soil is going to be completely self inflicted..

and thats when the world will turn to s**T becuase no nation on this planet will openenly condem the attacks against america, the leaders will sit back, smoke there cigar and say ' I told you so, stuipd bloody yanks '


I will tone down and take your point,
please explain to me your version of Jihad.
You can obviously see that from everything i hear, jihad is considered th reason behind so much tragedy in todays world.

What is Jihad to you?
how does it make you a better person at heart? someone not wanting the madness around it?


[edit on 4-4-2005 by GlobalDisorder]

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[edit on 4-4-2005 by Seekerof]

i actualy have kind of a dumb question, but can you answer it really quickly?....

how do you spell jihad in arabic?.....is it jimm, haa, alif, dall?

It is as you said
Jeem - Haa - Alif -Daal
and this is how it is written in Arabic script:
جهاد

I suppose to start with, who all is allowed to call for Jihad,

The leaders of Muslims. If most of them agreed to have Jihad or (fighting enemies in a specific region), then Jihad will start in that region.
Palestine is one of these places that Jihad is allowed in it becase it is our land and the Israilies take it in 1984 and made massgraves of our bodies.

and what would the goal be? Is it just for religious purposes? For instance the US invaded Iraq (right or not) but they aren't saying that Iraqi's should change their religious views. Wouldn't this just be a normal war, and not Jihad?

Jihad derives from the Arabic verb (jaahada) which mean (to strugle), So Jihad means exactly (STRUGGELLING).

Thus, Jihad is devided into 4 branches the biggest, the big, the small, and the smallest.

The Biggest Jihad

It is the strugelling of one's desires to obey God.
Proof: Prophet Muhammad said when he came back from a war: ((We came back from the smallest Jihad to the Biggest Jihad. The Jihad of the hawa (wrong desire) and nafs (the quarrel self).

The Big Jihad

It is the strugelling to inform people about Islam and God.
Proof: God said in the Quran: ((Therefore listen not to the Unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness, with the (Qur'an).)) [025.052]

The Small Jihad

It is to struggle for your parents to be happy to you all the time:
Proof: A man came to prophet Muhammad when he was preparing to a battle and he asked him a permission to go with him. Prophet Muhammad asked him: "Do you have parents?" He said: yes. prophet Muhammad told him: "Go back and make Jihad with them"

The Smallest Jihad

It is to struggle by weapons your enemy.
Proof that It is the smallest: Prophet Muhammad said when he came back from a war: ((We came back from the smallest Jihad to the Biggest Jihad. The Jihad of the hawa (wrong desire) and nafs (the quarrel self).

Jihad will be established against:
1- Those who are preventing Muslims from their rights to worship God and inform people about Islam
2. Those who occupied one of our lands.

God said:

"Allah does not forbid you respecting those who have not made war against you on account of (your) religion, and have not driven you forth from your homes, that you show them kindness and deal with them justly; surely Allah loves the doers of justice.
Allah only forbids you respecting those who made war upon you on account of (your) religion, and drove you forth from your homes and backed up (others) in your expulsion, that you make friends with them, and whoever makes friends with them, these are the unjust."



NOW.

USA is occupying Iraq. Muslims are not allowed to touch any Americans who is NOT envolved in killing, torturing, or harming Iraqies people.
Thus, Americans in USA should not be harmed as long as they are not harming us.
and Also, Buisness men, and other civillians in Iraq should NOT be harmed as long as they dnt harm us.

Finally:

Prophet Muhammad said: "Harming a non-Muslim (Who is not fighting) is like harming me).

As a result, Jihad is a war to every enemy who is trying to harm a single Muslim. So, every country is having "Jihad", But the Islamic Jihad is for Muslims not just a country.

Any other Question I am ready

what branch of jihad do these finatics go off to think murdering civilians is in the name of Jihad?
and again, I apologise for my outburst!

[edit on 4-4-2005 by GlobalDisorder]

A few questions:

Do you believe the abuse or misuse of Jihad is a result of Islam not having a religious figurehead, such as a caliphe? That there are too many clerics/mullahs misinterpreting the Koran or using it for personal gain.

Is the practice of suicide bombings (regardless of whether right or wrong) in direct contradiction to the Koran?

What punishments does Islam provide for those who target the innocent or incite others to murder, such as in the case of the Bali bombings?



Thanks - Bleys

Can you give me a general sketch of the beliefs of Islam? I have little knowledge of the faith, but I am curious to learn more about it. These days, you don't exactly hear the best things about it, so I assume those things are not true.

Hi How are you

I think that Osama is a myth written By CIA and FBI.
Any how, What "Osama" is doing is against Islam.

This site will give you a very very brief paragraphs about Islam.
The third Chapter is what you need.
www.islam-guide.com...

Any more question, I am ready.

I LOVE THE INTERNET !!!
Islam,

Welcome! I am really glad that you have found your way to these boards. It is good to see people from all over the world, from all religions and ideologies having access to a forum where they can exchange information. This can hopefully lead to a better understanding of each other.

I don't have a question regarding the Jihad, but I have a question regarding Syria. Is internet access easily available over there? Thanks in advance and again welcome!

Blobber

Hi
The answer of your question is YES.
The internet is available every where in Syria since 2003.
But it first entered Syria in 1999.

What if he is for Jihad?
I lost friends in Bali, and all i heard was these suicide bombers claiming jihad.

all you hear is jihad this jihad that.
I still to this day havent heard a POSITIVE reason come out of jihad, accept death and destruction.

the US wasnt behind 911.

Why would they bring down a pinaccle of there economy in the Trade Centre's?
Why would they leave so much conspiracy around the Pentagon.. in fact why attack the pentagon ????????? wouldnt the WTC of been enough?

911 was definaetly an outside attack,
it goes all the way back to the WTC in 93, Ramzi Yousef on JIHAD Trying to bring them down.

JIHAD almost sounds like a drug, these F***N finatics take to justify murdering civilians..

JUST LIKE THE US IS MURDERERING civilians every day in iraq,
the next 911 on US Soil is going to be completely self inflicted..

and thats when the world will turn to s**T becuase no nation on this planet will openenly condem the attacks against america, the leaders will sit back, smoke there cigar and say ' I told you so, stuipd bloody yanks '


I will tone down and take your point,
please explain to me your version of Jihad.
You can obviously see that from everything i hear, jihad is considered th reason behind so much tragedy in todays world.

What is Jihad to you?
how does it make you a better person at heart? someone not wanting the madness around it?

Hi Globecast.

You mentioned many things and I am very sorry that you are haveing this misconception about Jihad.
Any how, my previous reply in this post might give you the clear answer.
Otherwise ,,, ask me and I will proof every single word I say from the Quran and Prophet Muhammad's quotes which are the two sacred sources of Islam.

Thankyou again for envolving in this post.

Dear Seekerof

I understand your problem.
But dont judge 1.5 Billion person because of stupid individuals like Osama BinLaden.
And go out from the darkness of what you think about Islam.

as posted by Islam
Dear Seekerof

I understand your problem.
But dont judge 1.5 Billion person because of stupid individuals like Osama BinLaden.
And go out from the darkness of what you think about Islam.

Actually Islam,
I made the post I did to prevent members from simply tearing at and distorting this thread. You could say I was doing it to allow you a unhostile atmosphere to speak.





seekerof

hmmmm.... you know, if you think on a grand strategic scale, creating a ficticious Osama to give a reason to go into the mid east would have taken a ton of planning and foresight... but it could have been done. The CIA could create the videos and tapes with ease I would imagine.... and even with an incredible number of assets devoted to finding the guy... almost every country on the planet in on the hunt as well, yet nobody can find him. Even with a 25 million dollar bounty on his head.... how convenient is that? I mean, readymade culprit to blame all kinds of stuff on, and more reason to go after a couple of 'Terrorist' states like Syria and Iran... that coincidently have oil. All they have to do is release a video with Osam in it.. maybe some hill or something in the background.. that surprisingly looks like the scenery in syria, and bingo.... Syria harbours terrorists, syria gets invaded.... more oil for USA. Did you guys know that 52% of the oil coming out of Iraq goes to the USA now? How about that....

what branch of jihad do these finatics go off to think murdering civilians is in the name of Jihad?

It is the branch which their filthy leaders Osama and Zawahiri and Zarqawi are establishing.
The proof is
1- the verses from Quran I brought to you.
2- If Osama's Jihad is the Islamic Jihad, then Why not all 1.5 billion Muslims are doing what Osama and AlQaida is doing???????????????????????????????

Do you believe the abuse or misuse of Jihad is a result of Islam not having a religious figurehead, such as a caliphe? That there are too many clerics/mullahs misinterpreting the Koran or using it for personal gain.

This is one of the reasons that those stupid people are fighting for. And by the way, Muslims spreaded in Indonesia, India, Bangladis, Pakistan, Africa and there was no caliphe and no single battle.

That is a proof of what I said before.
We are allowed to fight those who are preventing us from informing people about Islam.

Regard what you said about the mullas.
1- Mulla is the priest for Shiia and I am among Sunnah.
2- Give me an event that proof what you said.

Is the practice of suicide bombings (regardless of whether right or wrong) in direct contradiction to the Koran?

Saucide is completely prohibitted in Islam. Prophet Muhammad said what means: "Who so ever killed himself by an equipment, Allah will make him to kill himself by that equipment in the hellfire for ever"

NOW.

Saucide bombing havent happened through the Islamic history except recently in Palestine.
That is because Palestinians have nothing at all to defend themselves except their bodies.

If some one came t your country USA and oppressed you, raped your daughters and sisters, killed your brothers and sons, imprison you father and take all your weapons and that enemy have 200 nuclear bomb and the all countries are supporting him and opressing you.
What are you going to do ??

Are you gong to sit looking at him like idiot?
or aren't you going to do whatever thing to stop him even by killing yourself.

there is no different between one who go to a battle to fight for the sake of his land and family and the one who is going to kill himself to try , just try, to stop that wild enemy.

Sister:

You dont know what Israel did to Us.
Go to this link and just get an idea about the Israeli massacres in Palestine an Lebanon
www.soundofegypt.com...
Imagen your village was one of these villages that was flattened.
Imagen your family was one of these families who was vanished.

WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ???

What punishments does Islam provide for those who target the innocent or incite others to murder, such as in the case of the Bali bombings?

It is a severe severe severe punishment and it is as the punishment for those who make war against Allah.

God said: "The punishment of those who
(1) wage war against Allah and His messenger
(2) and strive to make mischief in the land is only this,

that they should be *murdered *or crucified *or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides *or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,"

IS THERE A PUNISHMENT MUCH STRONG THAN THAT ???

hmmmm.... you know, if you think on a grand strategic scale, creating a ficticious Osama to give a reason to go into the mid east would have taken a ton of planning and foresight... but it could have been done. The CIA could create the videos and tapes with ease I would imagine.... and even with an incredible number of assets devoted to finding the guy... almost every country on the planet in on the hunt as well, yet nobody can find him. Even with a 25 million dollar bounty on his head.... how convenient is that? I mean, readymade culprit to blame all kinds of stuff on, and more reason to go after a couple of 'Terrorist' states like Syria and Iran... that coincidently have oil. All they have to do is release a video with Osam in it.. maybe some hill or something in the background.. that surprisingly looks like the scenery in syria, and bingo.... Syria harbours terrorists, syria gets invaded.... more oil for USA. Did you guys know that 52% of the oil coming out of Iraq goes to the USA now? How about that....

Talking about the nasty things Bush did to Muslims and Arabs will not be fit in millions and millions of pages.

It is not far to believe that Osama and his nasty group are are a myth or are nothing but employers under Bush's company of Terrorism and tricks.

And Americans should praise God that Islam is against killing innocent people, or I think that there would be a WWIII.

But dont worry, the truth oneday will appear and Allah will punish the oppressors sonner or later.

OK here is a question for you....

If you are a Muslim from Syria, why is your IP from Florida?

Originally posted by Islam
Alsalamu Alaykum
Peace on you all

Unfortunatly, many people, especially westerns, are carrying wrong ideas about Islam and JIHAD.

I am a Muslim from Syrian Arab Republic and I am honored to be in your forum.

If you have any question about what Islam say about JIHAD, The stupid guys like Osama, Zarqawi, Zawahiri, etc, and other questions concerning that, I WILL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER IT.


Sencirely,
Islam.

OK here is a question for you....
If you are a Muslim from Syria, why is your IP from Florida?

I am from Syria.
But right now in Florida.

I wonder if NC ever appreciated seminal garage-powerpop turned lounge-electro-funk New Zealand 90s band the Headless Chickens.