Julian Assange, years after Wikileaks

Many years ago, Wikileaks was one of the most mentioned websites here on ATS and other conspiracy forums. At the time everyone was impatient and eager to read and discuss the latest leaks as they came out. Every new leak was hot!

Today, the US has 17 espionage related charges against Julian Assange
and wants to prosecute him for exposing war crimes committed in Iraq and Afghanistan,
as well as for releasing thousands of top secret files.
Some say that by doing that, Assange is responsible for the deaths of hundreds.

He may be sentenced to 175 year in prison.

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Today he still makes the news now and then, mostly the smaller media, the latest being:

August 16 2022 : Journalists And Lawyers Who Met With Julian Assange Sue CIA, Mike Pompeo Over Alleged Spying
August 27 2022 : Julian Assange files appeal against US extradition


These days he is not often a topic for discussion anymore on the conspiracy sites,
So how do you all feel about Assange?
Should he be handed over to the US and prosecuted?
Do you consider him a traitor to the US? A spy? A murderer?

And if 'yes', what about everything he exposed with Wikileaks? Doesn't that count for something?

Whatever the current narrative says is correct. And if you disagree you're a MAGA supporter.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I assume 'Maga' is a US thing?
Call me stupid but I have no idea what that's all about

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I assume 'Maga' is a US thing?
Call me stupid but I have no idea what that's all about

Once upon a time using Assange as a martyr was politically expedient.. until it wasn't. He's an evil terrorist that leaked a video of a Blackhawk shooting up civilians. Those in the video are heros and assange is a terrorist maga supporter for leaking it. He should serve seventy bazillion years in gauntanamo for his sins.


Heil Klaus.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Julian Assange was another good example of how the world is corrupted, coordinated, and the American two party are basically one in the same.

Regardless if Republican control, democrat control , or Trump control the one thing they all agreed on was to go after the whistle blowers like Assange,Guccifer, Seth Rich, and suicide anyone that threatend the corrupted system like Epstein and many others.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I assume 'Maga' is a US thing?
Call me stupid but I have no idea what that's all about

Once upon a time using Assange as a martyr was politically expedient.. until it wasn't. He's an evil terrorist that leaked a video of a Blackhawk shooting up civilians. Those in the video are heros and assange is a terrorist maga supporter for leaking it. He should serve seventy bazillion years in gauntanamo for his sins.


Heil Klaus.

nvm, I googled it,
So 'maga' is 'Make America great again' ... got it.

But the Wikileaks years were way before Trump, so how can you say that one is related to the other?

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Julian Assange was another good example of how the world is corrupted, coordinated, and the American two party are basically one in the same.

Regardless if Republican control, democrat control , or Trump control the one thing they all agreed on was to go after the whistle blowers like Assange,Guccifer, Seth Rich, and suicide anyone that threatend the corrupted system like Epstein and many others.

so how about you? do you agree?
Is he a terrorist?

If he broke the law by spying and releasing classified documents and/or secrets not sanctioned by our government, then due process should take place. With that being said, if those documents revealed illegal activity sanctioned or covered up by our government, the jury or prosecutor's should regard him as a hero, and so should we.

I think the biggest win would be due process and acquittal.

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2

originally posted by: interupt42
a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Julian Assange was another good example of how the world is corrupted, coordinated, and the American two party are basically one in the same.

Regardless if Republican control, democrat control , or Trump control the one thing they all agreed on was to go after the whistle blowers like Assange,Guccifer, Seth Rich, and suicide anyone that threatend the corrupted system like Epstein and many others.

so how about you? do you agree?
Is he a terrorist?

Being that I don't have access to the truth or briefed on the case , I can't determine whether he is a terrorist or not.

However, it does not appear from what I have seen that he exposed any MI assets or any US secrets besides the world gov't and politicians being corrupt as fk who were breaking THEIR OWN laws.

On the other hand world politicians, MSM, and the world MIC have a proven history of lying to our faces,conflict of interest,suiciding key witnesses against the hidden powers,corruption, and not doing what is in the majority of the peoples best interest across the world .

So the fact that the globalist hidden entity has labeled him an enemy without really providing any proof as to why and have been caught trying to frame him , suggests he is not the terrorist they are trying to make him be.

Having said that keep in mind the enemy of your enemy is also not necessarily your friend either.

a reply to: JefeFeesh

If he ever goes to trial, he will be found guilty.

As my personal opinion, he is a hero.
Not only for releasing the US secret documents, but for exposing corruption all over the world as he was the driving force behind Wikileaks.

He is a hero, and sadly, totally forgotten about among the communities that used to praise him.

It does expose the corruptness of government.

The Australian government never backed Julienne or said anything to protect him. Quite the opposite.

Whilstleblowers just get shoved in jail and prosecuted. Just like Witness k and East Timor.

While I admit to always having wondered if Assange was controlled by some murky power, I also have to say that everything that came through Wikileaks seemed solid and not particularly political other than in the broad sense of that which Journalism should be focused on & aimed at.

Barring any evidence that he conspired with an adversary, then I think he only did what any good journalist is supposed to do and few seem to do these days.

Sounds like he has PTSD from the whole ordeal. Poor bloke has suffered enough.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Here is an excellent article about Julian Assange, written by former NPR reporter Chris Hedges:
LINK

Here's a quote:

Julian is targeted because his organization WikiLeaks released the Iraq War Logs in October 2010, which documented numerous US war crimes—including images seen in the Collateral Murder video of the gunning down two Reuters journalists and 10 other unarmed civilians.

He is targeted because he documented the more than 15,000 unreported deaths of Iraqi civilians, the torture and abuse of some 800 men and boys, aged between 14 to and 89, at Guantánamo.

He is targeted because he showed us that Hillary Clinton in 2009 ordered US diplomats to spy on U.N. Secretary General Ban Ki Moon and other U.N. representatives from China, France, Russia, and the UK, spying that included obtaining DNA, iris scans, fingerprints, and personal passwords, part of the long pattern of illegal US surveillance that included the eavesdropping on UN Secretary General Kofi Annan in the weeks before the US-led invasion of Iraq in 2003.

He is targeted because he exposed that Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and the CIA orchestrated the June 2009 military coup in Honduras that overthrew the democratically elected president Manuel Zelaya, replacing it with a murderous and corrupt military regime.

He is targeted because he released documents that revealed that the United States secretly launched missile, bomb, and drone attacks on Yemen, killing scores of civilians.

He is targeted because he made public the $ 657,000 paid to Hillary Clinton by Goldman Sachs to give talks and her private assurances to corporate leaders that she would do their bidding while promising the public financial regulation and reform.

He is targeted because he revealed the internal campaign to discredit and destroy British Labour Party leader Jeremy Corbyn by members of his own party.

For these truths alone he is guilty.

The article continues on to point out that 'legally', Assange has not committed any crime....He is not a U.S. citizen, and WikiLeaks is not a U.S. company -

-therefore, how can he be accused of treason? You can't be a "traitor" to a country you are not a citizen of.

Julian Assange is a victim who is being set up to become an example, to all potential whistle blowers, of what can happen to anyone who crosses totalitarian governments masquerading as democracies!!

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

No to extradition and yes to ....

a reply to: The GUT

Yes, journalism is dead, and it died with him.

he was and continues to be the example of what not to do to the deep state. he shares that title with Trump.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Good things Wikileaks did.

Exposed Scandal's that governments would rather keep secret.

Exposed Criminality by Government's.

Exposed many secrets that should have NEVER been kept secret from the public by any nation that is democratic as doing so was only beneficial to a few often very wealthy people and corporations.

Acted as a great whistle blowing website that many people from various nation's could use if they had no other avenue to bring out the fact they were being forced to work in organizations that had gone rogue or otherwise were acting in a criminal manner.

Basically it was HATED by this by most governments in the world and this made Julian Assange a hated man but also a man that many of them wanted to silence though no one did as it was not just there dirty laundry Wikileaks as airing but also that of there enemy's and competitors on the world stage.

Bad Things it did?.

Some of the information was severely compromising to intelligence sources, agent's and politically dangerous to release as it let factions know too much about other factions.

This resulted in some Agent's of probably more nations than just the US being put into danger and perhaps even being killed.

In time the US opted to try to get there hands on Julian Assange with the cooperation of the government of Sweden and he was Framed for sexual assault as a pretext to put out an international warrant for his arrest with the intent that Sweden would then ship him off to the US, it failed but eventually they got him via the UK and what many of us regard as an Unlawful pursuit of Mr Assange and a corrupt and unlawful decision to grant the US extradition request for him from the UK on ESPIONAGE Charges, what Espionage he never spied on anyone all he did was publish information that was leaked to him by whistle blowers so in fact that action by the US was in many ways a contravention of it's own constitutional right's as far as free speech and the right to know (Freedom of information) is concerned and one that can only be held up under Emergency war powers that were meant to be rescinded after WW2 but never were because it was too handy to have those powers after the war.

His loss and the attack on WikiLeaks have been a loss for not only freedom in the US and other nations but in the entire world.

The only possible excuse could be in my mind that Wikileaks publishing of certain information could potentially have exposed some agent's and sources to life threatening danger and compromised several intelligence operations but hey they also did to the Russia, China and several other nations so in fact it was pretty even stevens in my opinion.


Those whom believe in Freedom and Freedom of Speech will continue to fight for him, his name will not go away despite a press blackout in many nations such as the UK in which he name now makes no news hardly ever.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

So how do you all feel about Assange?
Should he be handed over to the US and prosecuted?
Do you consider him a traitor to the US? A spy? A murderer?

I feel like it's one of the worst travesties against journalism in human history. The man has had his entire life destroyed simply by trying to shine light on the truth. And how can he be a traitor when he isn't even a US citizen, not to mention he didn't obtain the information personally, he got the leaks from whistleblowers who felt that the public had a right to know.

But the scum of this Earth don't like that do they... and now with Biden in control, there's a high probability Assange will spend the rest of his life rotting in prison, for the crime of exposing crime. That's why I always said Assange should have just accepted extradition to the US while Trump was in power, then he might have had some chance of freedom.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2



Edited to add:

What's wild is.. after you watch that little clip, it reminds you of Trump, the way he talks, lies about things. Then you consider, this is the guy that so many people heap praises on all day, everyday, and want back at the helm of the country. Not just members here, but all the way through Congress.

It's not that Trump is such a great leader, it's just that he's the guy that could wield the power for the right. Now he's the only guy it seems. The right being in power is bigger than Trump, Trump is just the vehicle to make it happen, perhaps the only ticket available. Because of that, I think people get disillusioned about him, make him out to be so amazing when really, if it were any other guy who could do it, they'd be all about that one instead. If Trump doesn't run, whoever the front runner is will be the new star.

There's liberals who bash Trump, and then there's people who just.. aren't Republican so they never get into that mindset. They see him for his bad traits of which there are so many, what a dramatic fellow.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2
your actually smarter for NOT knowing.

I think assange got shafted.
Maybe he Is a russian spy but what he did was still right. any entity that says the truth is a crime or punishes those who seek/offer such realities are terrorists or spies, should be immediately dismantled and burned like witch till there is nothing left but ash to use in mortar of the foundations of the new....entity.
yeah