70 years Captivity

In the Bible Daniel describes the 70 years Captivity of the Jews before the building of the second temple... Is this correct, if so, does anybody else find it coincidental that the now deceased Queen of England reigned for 70 years and an English national anthem about the rebuilding of Jerusalem by William Blake suggests the new Jerusalem will be in England

And did those feet in ancient time
Walk upon England's mountains green?
And was the holy Lamb of God
On England's pleasant pastures seen?

And did the Countenance Divine
Shine forth upon our clouded hills?
And was Jerusalem builded here
Among these dark Satanic mills?

Bring me my bow of burning gold:
Bring me my arrows of desire:
Bring me my spear: O clouds unfold!
Bring me my chariot of fire.

I will not cease from mental fight,
Nor shall my sword sleep in my hand
Till we have built Jerusalem
In England's green and pleasant land.

I'm no biblical scholar so if there are others who have more input on this 70 year "curse" I would be interested to hear it.

Thanks

Two prophecies in Daniel have the number 70. First prophecy is 70years. The second prophecy is 70 weeks.
There's not much more, that I can think of off hand dealing in a "70 year curse" that I'm remembering right now.
So, yeah, this is a interesting. That anthem is wild, first off. Secondly it is pretty interesting that Daniel speaks of a prophecy that spans 70 years, and then another that last 70 weeks.

I Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the LORD through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem” (Daniel 9:1-2).

This prophecy foretold that the “land shall be a desolation” and that the Jews would “serve the king of Babylon seventy years” (Jeremiah 25:11; compare 2 Chronicles 36:17-21). After the 70 years were completed in Babylon, God told them, He would cause them “to return to this place [Jerusalem]” (Jeremiah 29:10).

Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy. Daniel 9:24

Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. (Daniel 9:25, ESV)
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The little bit I dug up for ya. Might help connect some dots.
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Thanks, I will look into it more, John's apocalyptic writings touch on the beast coming out of the sea

Revelation 17:3: "There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns."

We previously see this beast in Daniel's visions. Both the whore of Babylon and the Beast play a massive role in the End Times.

Revelation 17:4: "The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls."

Purple and all these other elements show royalty, power, and wealth. The whore of Babylon has influence over culture and over people.

Revelation 17:4: "She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries."

www.crosswalk.com...

Yes .
No.
Questions answered .

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The 19th of September, will have pretty much ALL of the major public players of the planet, in the cesspit of London, for the funeral of the head of the 'defender of the faith'.

The 2020's have been the craziest decade of my life so far, so chuck a biblical prophecy into the mix, I'll just grab my popcorn and a nice smoke!🤣

Concerning the song "Jerusalem," there is reason to suppose Jesus the Christ was in Cornwall in His youth. His great uncle, Joseph of Arimathea, held the tin mining concessions there. That is why he was so rich. Many think Jesus traveled with His uncle, and that is why He was able to sleep in the boat in a storm, while His disciples feared for their lives. There is other evidence, but most of it borders on the legendary...

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Maybe it's too soon to be asking these types of questions

originally posted by: GoldGoo9
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Thanks, I will look into it more, John's apocalyptic writings touch on the beast coming out of the sea

Revelation 17:3: "There I saw a woman sitting on a scarlet beast that was covered with blasphemous names and had seven heads and ten horns."

We previously see this beast in Daniel's visions. Both the whore of Babylon and the Beast play a massive role in the End Times.

Revelation 17:4: "The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls."

Purple and all these other elements show royalty, power, and wealth. The whore of Babylon has influence over culture and over people.

Revelation 17:4: "She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries."

www.crosswalk.com...

I strongly suggest you research events of 11/11/18 with relation to earth ringing like a bell.

then

Consider the 70 yr reign of Queen Elizabeth 2nd and her funeral date..

then
if you seem capable of at minimum peripheral vision I may give you further food for thought.

Meanwhile 9/23/22 through to 9/30/22 should hopefully be business as usual but it's highly suspicious.

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On May 14, 1948, David Ben-Gurion, the head of the Jewish Agency, proclaimed the establishment of the State of Israel. U.S. President Harry S. Truman recognized the new nation on the same day.
history.state.gov... › milestones
Creation of Israel, 1948 - Office

Seismic Sensors Recorded That Earth Just Rang Like A Bell On November 11th, But Nobody Knows Why It Happened

The November 11 seismic event is notable in that no Primary or Secondary waves were detected.All that registered was the deep, resonate surface wave.

Yes there is 70 years between these dates, thank you,

The date of her funeral being the 19/09/2022

19 represents completion

I'm still quite unsure about all this, I am an initiate it would seem, but even that I'm not sure of

Let's just say I'm guided by the light, from a young age, and again, I'm not even sure what that is

I love to hear peoples interpretations of prophetic bible verses but remember …
But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
So man will never know. But it’s a fun game to play. a reply to: GoldGoo9

Cool, thanks. I'll take some time and dig around and see what I can see from the info you provided. I know God is very much into symbolism and especially numbers (having meanings and all that), so I'm interested to see what comes from those dates (the 11/11 date popped out at me immediately so I'm starting there).
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I've looked into all that. Kind of quickly, but I'm actually a quick study. A few things. First, the earthquake that shook on the day Israel was signed off as being it's own country, is another Biblical prophecy, and I, for one, have no doubt that that took place (God shook the earth when Israel was recognized as the Bible foretold).
Second, I noticed a reference to the Mackabees (sorry, wasn't sure hot to spell that), and I was wondering if this was a Catholic view or belief. If so, I'm open to all thoughts and views, because I believe we can learn from each other through our differences (none of us are as smart as all of us). So even if I'm Protestant, I not only respect my Catholic "neighbors" I ha e also learned a lot from some of my buddies who are Catholic (so no judgement here even with a Protestant/Catholic.
Third, the interpretation of the prostitute on the beast was very interesting and I felt it was also insightful. The whore of babylon is something I've been looking deep into recently, and I gotta say, I agree with what that article was saying. Heck, from what I've learned, thru the Holy Spirit and The Word, I actually think that article may be dead on (right) because it was saying the same thing that (I believe) the Holy Spirit had lead me to the same insight.
Very neat to thanks for the crumbs. Lead me to some of my own insight.

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originally posted by: GoldGoo9
a reply to: Gothmog
Maybe it's too soon to be asking these types of questions

Or , too late.

originally posted by: AOx6179
Two prophecies in Daniel have the number 70. First prophecy is 70years. The second prophecy is 70 weeks.
There's not much more, that I can think of off hand dealing in a "70 year curse" that I'm remembering right now.
So, yeah, this is a interesting. That anthem is wild, first off. Secondly it is pretty interesting that Daniel speaks of a prophecy that spans 70 years, and then another that last 70 weeks.

I Daniel, understood by the books the number of the years specified by the word of the LORD through Jeremiah the prophet, that He would accomplish seventy years in the desolations of Jerusalem” (Daniel 9:1-2).

This prophecy foretold that the “land shall be a desolation” and that the Jews would “serve the king of Babylon seventy years” (Jeremiah 25:11; compare 2 Chronicles 36:17-21). After the 70 years were completed in Babylon, God told them, He would cause them “to return to this place [Jerusalem]” (Jeremiah 29:10).

Seventy weeks are determined for your people and for your holy city, to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy. Daniel 9:24

Know therefore and understand that from the going out of the word to restore and build Jerusalem to the coming of an anointed one, a prince, there shall be seven weeks. Then for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with squares and moat, but in a troubled time. (Daniel 9:25, ESV)
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Jeremiah 29:10 may be an exact historical record of the Hebrew captivity from The Neo-Babylonians. Exactly 70 years ending in 538 when The Achaemenid Persian Empire, and Cyrus The Great, conquered Babylon and granted The Jews a return to Zion to eventually build the 2nd temple.

The prophecy happened relatively quickly. If we are to believe the compositional timeline as having occurred concurrent to the fall of Jerusalem to The Babylonians.

My gut says its not a prophecy but a historic record retroactively turned into a prophecy in post exile times.

Several aspects show it's composition started just before or at the outset of captivity but was likely finished in post-exile times.

What's better way to recount a 70 year captivity then turning a hero into a prophet?

That's my totally blasphemous take anyway. And I still feel it's in error to try to apply it to current times when everything about the book says it happened long ago, regardless if Jeremiah was a prophet or not.

The Book of Jeremiah grew over a long period of time. The Greek stage, looking forward to the fall of Babylon and aligning in places with Second Isaiah, had already seen major redaction (editing) in terms of overall structure, the superscriptions (sentences identifying following passages as the words of God or of Jeremiah), the assignment of historical settings, and arrangement of material, and may have been completed by the late Exilic period (last half of the 6th century BCE); the initial stages of the Masoretic Hebrew version may have been written not long afterwards, although chapter 33:14–26[17] points to a setting in post-exilic times.

Just had a quick read of the seventy weeks on wikipedia
If we are speculating this is current event's here are my thoughts.

"Seventy weeks are decreed for your people and your holy city: to finish the transgression, to put an end to sin, and to atone for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal both vision and prophet, and to anoint a most holy place." - potentially all the stuff that's been going on in the world lately

"Know therefore and understand: from the time that the word went out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the time of an anointed prince (King / prince Charles?), there shall be seven weeks; and for sixty-two weeks it shall be built again with streets and moat, but in a troubled time."

"After the sixty-two weeks, an anointed one (Charles?) shall be cut off and shall have nothing, and the troops of the prince who is to come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary. Its end shall come with a flood, and to the end there shall be war. Desolations are decreed." - War and Desolation, war on the uk? nuclear wasteland / desolation?

That actually fits in too.
I'll admit to not seeing a connection with what's going on with the queen and now new king. I honestly never would have made a connection to that with any Biblical prophecy. That's why this thread caught my attention enough to look further into it. And I gotta say, I see some dots connected.
Public disclaimer: to those who are skeptical about those who look so reliably to Gods Word for direction (and yeah I get it. I was once like that too) I think I can speak for most when I say, we're not looking for a specific date or time when the second coming of Jesus will come. What we are seeing is Words written thousands of years ago matching up to a lot of what's going on in the world today. As for me, I'm watching and waiting to see all those Words fulfilled, and can already see so many things that are lining up, even a bit too perfectly for me. A lot of us (and yeah, the same for Christians, we have our fanatic nut jobs too and they're ruining/distorting the Truth for us as well) are just excited to see our Lord. So seeing us having comfort in what the Bible says isn't an attack on those who have a different faith or see scriptures differently. I have a confidence in God that His Mercy will reign in a way that all this "bad" (things like hate strife envy) will be replaced with LOVE. It's not a my utopia vs your utopia (for me, and many others as well). If someone is truly lead by the Spirit then that's a person pursuing love, gentleness, mercy, kindness, patience, forbearance and long suffering (I feel like I missed some. The fruits of the Spirit).
So, us believers aren't excited about people tossed into hell. For me it's waiting for the moment the devil (and all the dark forces that are actually causing, and have caused all of this) to get tossed in a fiery furnace.
Someone who is operating under those fruits I mentioned then they are a person who wants to see everyone forgiven, the same as them. "Love your neighbor as yourself."
I apologize for the rant there. Just kind of spilled out of me. Hope it shed some light.
And to you, Brigadier, the public disclaimer wasn't for you. Just added it into my thoughts there.
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Yeah a lot of what you said makes sense. I'm really new to this whole thing in general, just saw this thread and looked up what the seventy weeks was. I've never been into religion or really read anything from the bible, but over the years I have come to respect people who follow a religion and even started exploring what God might mean myself. Still haven't really looked into much of it, just a tenuous foot forward sort of thing.

But it is interesting to see these potential dots lining up.

A bit of factual information for you all. And did those feet in ancient time is not the National Anthem it is actually a poem written by William Blake in about 1804. It is best known today as Jerusalem. The music was written in 1916 nothing suspicious about this lol. What’s more important is the content, it is believed The new religion later called Christianity was introduced into Great Britain in about AD34. It is argued that Jesus Christ visited England in his youth with his father to buy tin from the Cornish tin mines.

I'm actually not a religious person myself. But spiritual, yes. I know the Bible pretty well. I've studied for many years now, and have learned a lot and have grown much from it.
As far as where you're at, thats great in my book. It's a journey, for sure, and it's a journey one has to find for themselves. Honestly, once you do find it (connection with God) words cant really even describe it, at least not in a way that does it any true justice. All I can say is, when you find Him, you know it. Seek and you shall find it. Knock and the door shall be open to you.
And I vouch/claim/state that what I've found I've found in the Spirit and not in the flesh. Try the Spiritual route.
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