Does The Tribulation Start Later This Month?

I will link some recent videos which document signs in the sun, moon, and stars. Informative to say the least. Is it a sign or a prediction? Maybe. Is the Rapture coming within weeks? Maybe.

It is interesting and something coming up within the next few weeks. I am not stuck on a Pre-Trib or Mid-Trib Rapture as I see valid possibilities for both theories. Lots of activity recently and now more than ever is the time to proclaim Jesus is Lord.

Coincidently, on April 13, 2029—the “Potentially Hazardous Asteroid” (PHA) called Apophis will pass inside the orbits of our geosynchronous satellites.
23,000 miles/37,000 kilometers from Earth’s surface. Apophis is enormous. Discovered in 2005, it’s estimated to be about 1,100 feet/340 meters in diameter. That’s about as tall as the Empire State Building in Manhattan, New York. That an asteroid as big as that coming as close to Earth as Apophis will is a one-in-a-thousand-years event.

a reply to: infolurker
To me, "the tribulation" is the general persecution of the church. That's what it means in Revelation ch1 v9.
So I tend to take the view "When it happens, we'll know that it's happening".

a reply to: infolurker

No.

For centuries, people have been pointing to what they interpret as signs, but nothing ever comes of it and people just forget till the next one comes along. This guy tries to draw comparisons to the moon during WWII and today. Well, ok, but how many times since WWII has it looked like that ?

Wars and rumors of war ?
Tell me at what time in the last few thousand years some country or another hasn't been at war ?

There have many times in history when very similar things were going on as they are today. People were worried about food, diseases were going around [ They called AIDS a signs of the 2nd coming too ], wars, etc and nothing came of it, except the people who were crying "Doom !" quietly faded into the woodwork when they were proven wrong.

And to be honest....what are we gonna do about it ? It's not like we can stop it, the best we can do is
live your life the best you can and hope it was good enough.

a reply to: infolurker

Happy Rosh Hashanah...

a reply to: infolurker

No... no it doesn't

a reply to: infolurker

Your Avatar represents the second coming. Those are the Saints right behind him. They has been with him at the wedding feast for 7 years. The second coming occurs at the end of the 7 year tribulation (Jacobs Trouble) period.

We have been watching the feast of Trumpets, and Rosh Hashana for the past few years. Another good date to watch is Pentecost.
There are two separate events described. One is second coming, and another is previous to that and known as Harpadzo. The Harpadzo is what people have come to call the Rapture. That was a Latin Vulgate translation. Yeshua was very clear when his disciple's asked when these events would take place. He told them that the timing was set by the Father, and only the Father knew, not even the Son of Man knew. More importantly, each time they asked, he would redirect their attention to how they should be behaving and what they should be doing when this takes place. I think there was two times they asked, and he responded the same way.

Has there been Harpadzo before? Absolutely! Enoch, and Elijah. If I remember correctly, the story of Philip baptizing the Eunuch, and that same word is used. Philip was snatched away, but not off planet. He was taken to another area far away from where he had been.

Dad has been researching for years. He attended several colleges, has had many titles, including Director of Research for a Fortune 500 company. He has counseled Pastors, and even taken their place over the years to deliver sermons. We have looked at pretrib, Pre-wrath, and post- trib. We finally settled on pre-trib, probably a few years ago. He has been a Christian for about 85 years and will be 96 soon. He has been hoping to be here, still alive to take part in the Harpadzo. Over the past several months he became a little disappointed when we discussed Apophis hitting Earth in 2029. He does think it is going to hit. That raised a disappointment for him. If it is what is described in Revelation hitting Earth, that happens in the second half of the 7 year Tribulation period. The first half is caused by Humankind, and the second half is where God steps in. Mankind will not make Apophis hit.

So April 13th 2029, then count back 3.5 years, and that is the earliest that the Tribulation would begin, regardless how bad things get before then. And if Yeshua didnt know the day or hour, neither does Satan or or any person on Earth know either. He made it clear that we are just supposed to be ready, doing his will at all times. We are to keep oil in our lamps, and the wick trimmed, and dont be like the virgins that fell asleep. Be ready for the groom to arrive.

After studying the issue hard for the past 20 years approximately the event to look for is this.

When the US conquers Iran.

From what I have figured out is that we're currently in a "botched" apocalypse. Meaning this was all supposed to have been concluded in the first century AD. But something came up. And that was the death of John the Baptist. And that was a major problem because of this in Malachi 4.


5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.

But according to Matthew 17 that was John the Baptist. That means that John the Baptist wasn't supposed to die. So looking around I found the details of the curse in the book of Hosea. And the timeline of the curse is in Hosea 6-2.

After two days He will revive us; On the third day He will raise us up, That we may live in His sight.

BUT. Remember those days are thousand year periods of time. The curse of Malachi/Hosea is 2000 years long.

So why does this apply to Daniel. The 70 weeks prophecy of Daniel 9-24 has this detail.

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression,and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

Put simply this prophecy needs to run between the 69th and 70th week of Daniel 9. A 2000 year detour to the 70 weeks.

Which then appears the "last days" or 70th week occurs at the end of the curse. Or the 2000th anniversary of the deaths of Jesus Christ/John the Baptist. And that also means the last days were relocated to the 21st century. It would also appear the Daniel 8 and 11 prophesies need to repeat in their entirely and are doing so. And we're currently in the middle of Daniel 8-7 and 8-8.

a reply to: infolurker

So, if there is no “rapture” and I don’t think there will be one, the church will have to go through the tribulation, will suffer and be persecuted
Where will your faith be?
Think I would prefer to be left behind than taken away to somewhere I can’t help others. Sure Gods got a plan though
Last days, said that ten years ago and look, still here, who knows
There does seem something in the air

Sorry to inform you guys, but the Tribulation starts this month. A Frog that identifies as a human told me that.

This is one of my favorite hobbies, sitting back and watching all the Christians debunking one another. What makes sense to me is that a whole bunch of you will fail the test and get left behind.

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Apophis could be the 7th bowl, who knows.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: infolurker

No.

For centuries, people have been pointing to what they interpret as signs, but nothing ever comes of it and people just forget till the next one comes along. This guy tries to draw comparisons to the moon during WWII and today. Well, ok, but how many times since WWII has it looked like that ?

Wars and rumors of war ?
Tell me at what time in the last few thousand years some country or another hasn't been at war ?

There have many times in history when very similar things were going on as they are today. People were worried about food, diseases were going around [ They called AIDS a signs of the 2nd coming too ], wars, etc and nothing came of it, except the people who were crying "Doom !" quietly faded into the woodwork when they were proven wrong.

And to be honest....what are we gonna do about it ? It's not like we can stop it, the best we can do is
live your life the best you can and hope it was good enough.

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Tribulation just means that a period of time where people go crazy is happening. Look at society presently, there is not much of a way to reverse it's tendency towards civil unrest anymore. Anarchists spewing twisted lies are stimulating turbulance in our society, you can't even say anything these days without someone taking it wrong. The new society we are creating is chaos and people doing actual crimes are not being properly dealt with so more and more people are thinking it is acceptable. This will most likely lead to some pretty bad times. Nobody is looking at how this kind of thing happened in history anymore, people think that we now are more intelligent, but we are not, in fact, I think people are getting less intelligent...they believe what they want to believe and try to justify all the wrongs they do now.

Tribulation does not have to be biblical to be Tribulation, it is a time when societies get all screwed up and it causes governments to go to war to unite the people and kill off any trouble makers in their society by sending them to fight. Weeding the garden becomes essential to the survival of a country.

a reply to: Raggedyman

There will be a Harpadzo. Some on here will disappear. If ATS is still up, people will reread what those people had to say. They will then be convinced of the truth and turn to Christ. They will go through severe hardship including Being put into the railcars we have discussed and taken to camps where they will be executed by beheading. They will be immediately be with Christ in Heaven, and will demand justice, and at the 3 1/2-year point is where God takes action against those still on Earth who performed these terrible misdeeds. During the complete 7-year period of the Tribulation, 58% of all of Earth's population will die. Red tides of whole oceans. Severe heat waves like never seen before. Enormous hailstones 70-150 lbs. a piece, and a whole lot more. Stay alive and stay tuned. You will see it all. We are on a timeline. This is the decade of destiny

Its currently 100 degrees here at 830pm. The forecast is 116 degrees tomorrow. The highest Ive ever seen here was 117, like about over 50 years ago We are getting close.

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: infolurker

Happy Rosh Hashanah...

Indeed.

originally posted by: infolurker
a reply to: visitedbythem


Apophis could be the 7th bowl, who knows.

It absolutely could be. My dad is still in good shape, drives, keeps his own household, and cares for himself. but he had hoped we would be out of here this year. He has the old Jewish calendars and watches several dates. He just doesn't know if he can make it to 100 or older. His whole life he had a feeling he would see the "Rapture event" He has been faithful to God. Always obeyed God to the best of his abilities. Never slept with another woman besides my mother and only after marriage. He was the second man in our family to be able to select his own wife. Ive never seen him drunk, or abusive, or cheat or lie.

We dont know the date. You may be right. His feeling about seeing the rapture may be right too. We may be out of here very soon. This would be why the government would be talking up UFOs recently. They need to have an excuse and story.

Abducted by aliens...... LOL

a reply to: infolurker

Ever considered the possibility that the Rapture has already occurred?

How many people people actually died during the pandemic, actually died? How many of those deaths were never recorded?

If, of a million COVID19 deaths in the US alone (supposedly), a few hundred thousand just got "lost in the system" (remember, family members were often kept separated from patients), never to be seen again,

Would the government, any government, draw attention to the fact? Risking even more panic?

If you are reading this, what are the chances that you, too, are one of the "Left Behind"?

Personally I don't think it's a good idea to declare you want to be abducted. Even if I do that too, in a slightly different context.
We should work on that.
Because the problem is we can't tell why that was 'planted' in our noosphere. Or by whom. I mean the human who invented it sure, but what 'inspired' it is beyond our current capabilities to approach a 'know'.
That's the problem.
Who is answering our prayers?
I just want to say: there's nothing without a risk.
You could end up as sacrifice for Moloch. Or worse.
Do you have an escape plan?

Gonna go with a big NO as there's no such thing as the tribulation and rapture.

a reply to: infolurker

Give it up. Study ball scores or something. The Bible says "no one will, can, does know the time".

You can-not deduce anything that would be correct. We are told that from the beginning.

Do not look to the sky, but to the Page(s).

PS Hey IL! God bless ya!✌️