I Have a Question about the Popes and #666

OK, I Read this:

1. Twelve Pope's using the name Pius
2. Thirteen Pope's using the name Leo
3. Sixteen Pope's using the name Gregory
4. Fourteen Pope's using the name Benedict
5. Twenty One Pope's using the name John
6. Six Pope's using the name Paul
7. Two Pope's using the name John Paul

Now count them up name by name:

1. Pius 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12 = 78
2. Leo 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13 = 91
3. Gregory 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16 = 136
4. Benedict 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14 = 105
5. John 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20+21 = 231
6. Paul 1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21
7. John Paul 1+2 = 3

78 + 91 + 136 + 105 + 231 + 21 + 3 = 665
as of John Paul II,

Meaning, the next pope will be a new papal name (which by definition
has a count of 1), making a count of 1 + 665 = 666 man

But What about this?

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Was Watching the News and these Were Popes That Were Not added....The Popes Listed above were from the 1700's on....What about this Guy Listed? Dont all Popes Count or Not?

1) St. Peter (42-67)
2) St. Linus (67-76)

3) St. Cletus (76-88)
4) St. Clement 1 (88-97)

5) St. Evaristus (97-105)
6) St. Alexander I (105-1l5)

7) St. Sixtus I (1l5-125)
8) St. Telesphorus (125-136)

9) St. Hyginus (136-140)
10) St. Pius I (140-155)

11) St. Anicetus (155-166)
12) St. Soter (166-175)

13) St. Eleutherius (175-189)
14) St. Victor I (189-199)

15) St. Zephyrinus (199-217)
16) St. Callistus (217-222)

Hippolytus St. (217-235)

17) St. Urban I (222-230)
18) St. Pontian (230-235)

19) St. Anterus (235-236)
20) St. Fabian (236-250)

21) St. Cornelius (251-253)

Novatianus (251)

22) St. Lucius I (253-254)
23) St. Stephen I (254-257)

24) St. Sixtus I1 (257-258)
25) St. Dionysius (256-268)

26) St. Felix I (269-274)
27) St. Eutychian (275-283)

28) St. Caius (283-296)
29) St. Marcellinus (296-304)

30) St. Marcellus I (308-309)

(Edit, Please in future provide a link in stead of posting the whole list.)

To see the the rest of the list.... en.wikipedia.org...


[edit on 14-4-2005 by asala]

Originally posted by Rocky003
OK, I Read this:

1. Twelve Pope's using the name Pius
2. Thirteen Pope's using the name Leo
3. Sixteen Pope's using the name Gregory
4. Fourteen Pope's using the name Benedict
5. Twenty One Pope's using the name John
6. Six Pope's using the name Paul
7. Two Pope's using the name John Paul

Now count them up name by name:

1. Pius 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12 = 78
2. Leo 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13 = 91
3. Gregory 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16 = 136
4. Benedict 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14 = 105
5. John 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12+13+14+15+16+17+18+19+20+21 = 231
6. Paul 1+2+3+4+5+6 = 21
7. John Paul 1+2 = 3

78 + 91 + 136 + 105 + 231 + 21 + 3 = 665
as of John Paul II,

Meaning, the next pope will be a new papal name (which by definition
has a count of 1), making a count of 1 + 665 = 666 man

But What about this?

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Was Watching the News and these Were Popes That Were Not added....The Popes Listed above were from the 1700's on....What about this Guy Listed? Dont all Popes Count or Not?

The names used before 1798 ain't in the count because they were all a part of the beast from the sea [Rev 13:1] and consists of many papal names. The beast ruled in 1260 years [Rev 13:5] before it was wounded to death in 1798 AD [Rev 13:3]. The beast was in the bottomless pit [Rev 17:8], while the 7 heads ruled (7 different names), that is from 1798 - 2005. By the death of John Paul II, the wound is healed, and we can expect the beast to be the next pope, or whatever it will be.

Read the whole study on 666beast.net...

I suck at math can you explane how you got the whole 666 thing in a more user friendly fashion... Math doesn't work for me.

Well, it is simple mathematics.

A short summary of the prophecies.
(prophecy = reality)
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The beast = the papacy
7 heads = 7 pope names
The beast rules in 1260 days = 1260 years (538-1798)
One head wounded = pope captured (in 1798 by Napoleon)
The beast went to the bottomless pit = the papacy lost its power
The 7 heads rule = 7 unique papal names since 1798
7th head rules a short period of time = 7th name since 1798 rules in 27 years (shortest of all papal names since 1798)
The wound is healed = the papacy will become as powerful as it was in the medieval times.

Since 1798 these 7 papal names have ruled the catholic church:

- Pius
- Leo
- Gregory
- Benedict
- John
- Paul
- John Paul

As we know these names have been used more than once in the history of the papacy.

- Pius - 12 times
- Leo - 13 times
- Gregory - 16 times
- Benedict - 14 times
- John - 21 times
- Paul - 6 times
- John Paul - 2 times (shortest)

To count the number 666 out of these names, the same method used in the ancient Babylon to count the number of the sungod (also 666) must be used. The seven pope names and the number of times they have been used, must be counted.

Pius for instance (12 names) goes like this: 1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+11+12 = 78

When we arrive at John Paul, we reach 665.

To fulfil the 666 number a single one is needed. The prophecies tell us that there is coming an 8th after the seven, which is the beast itself.

"And the beast that was , and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition." [Rev 17:11]

The criteria for this theory to be correct, is that the next pope choses a name which has the number 1 behind it. That is, a name that has never before been used in the papal history.

In a couple of weeks we'll know if this turns out correctly!

There are 23 John's Not 21!

The criteria for this theory to be correct, is that the next pope choses a name which has the number 1 behind it. That is, a name that has never before been used in the papal history.

In a couple of weeks we'll know if this turns out correctly!

My question is-What then? What if he does choose a name that has the number 1 behind it. Will everyone just say- "ok, he is the anti-crist", and then just go back to everyday life?

that makes sense now thanx

Listen, and please listen well, I am sick and tired of explaining this. It clearly states that in the bible the beast will be marked 666 and it will be OBVIOUS to believers. 666 with these popes is not obvious, especially if you are saying we don't count the popes before 1798. This is LUDICRIOUS! Do you really see the next pope, a 70-80 year old, ruling the world? The anti-christ will NOT be a pope, rather he will be a world leader via politics, and not religion. But that last part is my oppinion, the above part about 666 is just plain old fact in regards to the bible. Stop making it so damn difficult. Why don't we keep our eye on slick willy if you wanna see someone whose name adds up to 666.

Woah....

Ryanp5555 you went off in that post lol! But i understand and agree with your frustration. although for those Christians not up on their study and knowledge of their beliefs i dont know if it will be very easy for them to identify the antichrist. You know, they may believe in their hearts and what not but may not know much of the nitty griity details in the bible concerning this subject so i dont know if i agree with you when you say he will be obvious to ALL believers. I'll have to reread it in my bible though.

As for the original poster who started this forum, I think what you noticed about the pope was cool and thanks for sharing the information. I just disagree with your conclusion. But like i said thanks for sharing your ideas.

since you are good at looking at details try reading the book of revelation if you havent and study it. Your gift for attention to detail is an asset for that book. Maybe you might see something in it that none of us on here have.

Kind Regards,
Digital Grl

Originally posted by Rocky003
There are 23 John's Not 21!

There are two antipopes of John: John XVI and John XXIII. Antipope's get a zero behind their name according to the Latheran-treaty.

Originally posted by Jes

The criteria for this theory to be correct, is that the next pope choses a name which has the number 1 behind it. That is, a name that has never before been used in the papal history.

In a couple of weeks we'll know if this turns out correctly!

My question is-What then? What if he does choose a name that has the number 1 behind it. Will everyone just say- "ok, he is the anti-crist", and then just go back to everyday life?

Then the rest of the Book of Revelation will be completed.

All i really wanted to get across was that picking up in the middle of 1798 and saying we will start here is by no means obvious. In fact it is just as obvious as saying we take all the letters in your name, and depending on what letter they are, we multiply them together. Then we take that number and divide it by 1.0238 and viola you are the anti-christ. You are correct, it won't be obvious to all christians, because not all christians practice their faith. Hell, I would venture to say that most christians have never read a single book in the bible. That is what is being spoke of when they say God will spit out the luke warm christians from his mouth at the time of judgment. But to the people who are wise, and looking for the anti-christ it will be obvious. And, I am sorry, but picking up in the middle of 1798 isn't obvious at all, it is an agenda! I dont think Bill Clinton is the Anti-Christ, but he is a much more prime candidate than anyone else. I believe his name adds up to 666 in English, Hebrew, and Greek, or something along those lines. But sorry to get so t'd off about this.

Originally posted by Ryanp5555
Listen, and please listen well, I am sick and tired of explaining this. It clearly states that in the bible the beast will be marked 666 and it will be OBVIOUS to believers. 666 with these popes is not obvious, especially if you are saying we don't count the popes before 1798.

Then can you tell me how to divide the seven heads from the rest of the beast? Didn't the beast rule before it was wounded? It did. But who ruled the pre-wounded beast is not of any relevance, it is the heads that must be counted.

Is the number also the mark, and will the beast itself be marked? Well, not according to the Bible...

Originally posted by Ryanp5555
This is LUDICRIOUS! Do you really see the next pope, a 70-80 year old, ruling the world? The anti-christ will NOT be a pope, rather he will be a world leader via politics, and not religion.

The beast will rule politically, but the harlot church will be destroyed, that is, the catholic church.

Originally posted by Ryanp5555
But that last part is my oppinion, the above part about 666 is just plain old fact in regards to the bible. Stop making it so damn difficult. Why don't we keep our eye on slick willy if you wanna see someone whose name adds up to 666.

I suggest you keep your eyes on the next "pope".

Hey Ryanp5555,

no need to apologize. i wasnt upset or anything. I thought it was kinda cute. I understand your frustrations because i share them . And i agree with everything that you said. i just thought it was funny because you were like "DAMMIT PEOPLE THIS IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED" i get like that sometimes. Especially on here because some claims can be so outlandish. But i just thought i would soften the blow for the poster a lil bit.

And thanks for the line about luke warm christians. I totally forgot about that part. so thanks for joggin my memory.

Kind Regards,
Melissa

Originally posted by DigitalGrl
Hey Ryanp5555,

no need to apologize. i wasnt upset or anything. I thought it was kinda cute. I understand your frustrations because i share them . And i agree with everything that you said. i just thought it was funny because you were like "DAMMIT PEOPLE THIS IS NOT THAT COMPLICATED" i get like that sometimes. Especially on here because some claims can be so outlandish. But i just thought i would soften the blow for the poster a lil bit.

And thanks for the line about luke warm christians. I totally forgot about that part. so thanks for joggin my memory.

Kind Regards,
Melissa

Haha, i never thought i would hear the word cute used in such a manner at ATS. But thanks for softening the blow for the poster, however, i will get back to this post in a shortwhile. Our agreeing on this must be because we both are suburbanites of Chicago.

There are a whole host of 666 connections to the Papacy, which mostly I think proves how powerful people's determination is to find ways to make things related to the pope add up to 666. For a selection of examples look here.

I'm thinking JPIII is more likely than... gesh, there have been so many popes, alot of good names got taken... even Sylvester... Fabio I, then?



[edit on 14-4-2005 by driley]

Hahaha

I didnt know you lived near chicago? what city? I live in Rockford. But yup, that explains so much now

Do you all know how many times people have tried to DECIPHER the 666 and what it means......I wont say what it means(Ill leave it to those that think they can).....If S.John of the Apocalypse wanted to write the name He would have,but did not because.............

Anyway.........

Firstly, the first Appointed BISHOP of Rome was not SAINT PETER....
S.Peter appointed St Linus...........S.Peter was a missionary and came back to Rome and was Assasinated there.......not appointed and serving as a Bishop...
Glory be to God....
helen...