Any Mechanics here ?

So I've ran into a problem in the front end of my Jeep , I've been to 4 repair shops

No problem going forward but when I turn left or right you get bang bang bang like rubber rubbing

1st shop did a diff service and told me go to the dealer
2nd Dealer said it's your tires rubbing or your lift take it to a 4x4 shop
3rd shop suspension shop it's not you lift it's solid it's you front diff
4th shop you need a new Diff

So I said I bet the 1st shop did not add the friction additive when they serviced it before we put a new one in put some additive in , So we did that and bam it was better a lot better .

Here's the kicker I know the additive needs time to work in but it's been a full week of me doing figure 8 ' s Whats happening now is once I drive it around the block the chatter stops but if I park for more then 2 hours it starts up again like the fluid is draining back down .

Is there enough additive in there ?

I'm taking it to a 5th shop and having him jam as much in as possible and see if that does the trick .

Anyone got experience with this kind of problem I thought it was the CV axles cause it sounded like the tires were rubbing .

"It's a 2006 jeep Commander 5.7 it's got limited slip in both front and back and full time awd 4 inch lift 33' tires Quadra drive 2 system"

Sounds like a bad CV joint. Friction additive is only needed for limited slip differentials which are only used in the rear. A bad diff will show metal particles in the fluid. When asking for car advice always give the year..

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

my Jeep

There's your problem right there!


It does sound like the CV axles are separating. Are the boots intact?

a reply to: Outerlimits13

It's a 2006 jeep Commander 5.7 it's got limited slip in both front and back and full time awd but I agree it does sound like a CV joint but 4 shops have told me it's not

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: Ravenwatcher

my Jeep

There's your problem right there!


It does sound like the CV axles are separating. Are the boots intact?

All 4 shops have said it's not the CV --------- Really frustrating lol Yes boot are intact no grease on wheels or anything

You changed your description from clicking..which is typically CV joints, to banging..which is a lot different. Is it a constant banging when you are moving that changes with vehicle speed or is it a one time bang when the the wheel is turned either way?

originally posted by: Outerlimits13
You changed your description from clicking..which is typically CV joints, to banging..which is a lot different. Is it a constant banging when you are moving that changes with vehicle speed or is it a one time bang when the the wheel is turned either way?

You can feel it in the steering wheel and hear it loudly my wife hears it from the house .

It was really bad until the diff service turning the wheels left or right bam bam bam like the wheels are grabbing and yanking the steering wheel . Since the diff service it's not as bad or as loud goes away after going around the block but comes back if its parked for more then 2 hours i've timed granted 2 hours it barely there but over night it's back in full until a short drive .

No change with speed just drive time But you feel it grabs the steering wheel when it happens ------ should I check the power steering box no other symptoms that point to power steering though ?

a reply to: Ravenwatcher

I hate it when i have to go to the mechanic, one car started leaving me on the side of the road, asked a friend to bring me a spare battery, visited four different shops, all said that a different (and expensive) part was broken.

Went to grab a coffee and met this old man, we chatted for a bit, he said i bet its the main fuse. Tried to buy one from a shop, they said i had to wait 3 weeks for a lousy fuse.

Next i went to the scrapyard, found the same car as mine, pulled the fuse and voila, the old man was right. That car gave me some years until rust ate everything in the bottom and it did a belly splash on the road, all tires were facing opposite directions.

What if you pull the front drive line off for a day? Ive removed the rear and ran on just the front. That would rule out the CV joint. I had a CV problem before, but I cant remember the noise. I also broke the u joints and blew the rear drive line off doing a burn out in my old 75 GMC Jimmy.
When they pulled the cover off the front diff, they should be able to tell if there is something wrong with the gears. I run mudder tires,(Z71) and they rub if I turn to the limit. I can see the polished area where they rub, so I just dont turn that far.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
What if you pull the front drive line off for a day? Ive removed the rear and ran on just the front. That would rule out the CV joint. I had a CV problem before, but I cant remember the noise. I also broke the u joints and blew the rear drive line off doing a burn out in my old 75 GMC Jimmy.
When they pulled the cover off the front diff, they should be able to tell if there is something wrong with the gears. I run mudder tires,(Z71) and they rub if I turn to the limit. I can see the polished area where they rub, so I just dont turn that far.

Can't it's a full time AWD

I had a 72 K5 and blew the back rear jumping the beast lol a friend had to follow me to keep one of the back wheels and axle coming out he was driving beside me and would bump mt tire back in lol got to love c clamp axles - turned that 10 bolt rear into glass lol

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: visitedbythem
What if you pull the front drive line off for a day? Ive removed the rear and ran on just the front. That would rule out the CV joint. I had a CV problem before, but I cant remember the noise. I also broke the u joints and blew the rear drive line off doing a burn out in my old 75 GMC Jimmy.
When they pulled the cover off the front diff, they should be able to tell if there is something wrong with the gears. I run mudder tires,(Z71) and they rub if I turn to the limit. I can see the polished area where they rub, so I just dont turn that far.

Can't it's a full time AWD

My 75 Jimmy was a fulltime. I ran with just the front driveline. Whats it going to do? The front yoke will just turn, right? Except it wont have a load or the CV turning. You could rule out CV. Ive never owned a Jeep.

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: visitedbythem
What if you pull the front drive line off for a day? Ive removed the rear and ran on just the front. That would rule out the CV joint. I had a CV problem before, but I cant remember the noise. I also broke the u joints and blew the rear drive line off doing a burn out in my old 75 GMC Jimmy.
When they pulled the cover off the front diff, they should be able to tell if there is something wrong with the gears. I run mudder tires,(Z71) and they rub if I turn to the limit. I can see the polished area where they rub, so I just dont turn that far.

Can't it's a full time AWD

My 75 Jimmy was a fulltime. I ran with just the front driveline. Whats it going to do? The front yoke will just turn, right? Except it wont have a load or the CV turning. You could rule out CV. Ive never owned a Jeep.

The newer AWD are way different I can't even have it towed without a flat bed - The T-case is the prob all computer crap

a reply to: Outerlimits13

If it helps today I was like that's coming mostly from the front diver side wheel or could have been that window was down but a swear mostly its coming from there

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: visitedbythem
What if you pull the front drive line off for a day? Ive removed the rear and ran on just the front. That would rule out the CV joint. I had a CV problem before, but I cant remember the noise. I also broke the u joints and blew the rear drive line off doing a burn out in my old 75 GMC Jimmy.
When they pulled the cover off the front diff, they should be able to tell if there is something wrong with the gears. I run mudder tires,(Z71) and they rub if I turn to the limit. I can see the polished area where they rub, so I just dont turn that far.

Can't it's a full time AWD

My 75 Jimmy was a fulltime. I ran with just the front driveline. Whats it going to do? The front yoke will just turn, right? Except it wont have a load or the CV turning. You could rule out CV. Ive never owned a Jeep.

The newer AWD are way different I can't even have it towed without a flat bed - The T-case is the prob all computer crap

I do have a friend that has been working on Jeeps for decades. He is a pro. He does some serious wheeling and works on everyone elses Jeeps as well. Are you in California?

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: Ravenwatcher

originally posted by: visitedbythem
What if you pull the front drive line off for a day? Ive removed the rear and ran on just the front. That would rule out the CV joint. I had a CV problem before, but I cant remember the noise. I also broke the u joints and blew the rear drive line off doing a burn out in my old 75 GMC Jimmy.
When they pulled the cover off the front diff, they should be able to tell if there is something wrong with the gears. I run mudder tires,(Z71) and they rub if I turn to the limit. I can see the polished area where they rub, so I just dont turn that far.

Can't it's a full time AWD

My 75 Jimmy was a fulltime. I ran with just the front driveline. Whats it going to do? The front yoke will just turn, right? Except it wont have a load or the CV turning. You could rule out CV. Ive never owned a Jeep.

The newer AWD are way different I can't even have it towed without a flat bed - The T-case is the prob all computer crap

I do have a friend that has been working on Jeeps for decades. He is a pro. He does some serious wheeling and works on everyone elses Jeeps as well. Are you in California?

Not no more in the midwest where everyone has a lifted truck but never go off road and the closet 4x4 shop is 2 hours away lol I'm seriously having a problem understanding why no one has a clue here a farm tractor breaks down they fix it in the field - New fangeled Jeep It's the big tire they rubbing !

a reply to: XipeTotex

I've worked in a handful of bodyshops. Most mechanics I've met are dumbasses and it takes them longer than it should to diagnose a problem, and even then the majority of the time they don't actually figure it out and just give you their best guess.

Yes, redo your axle fluid.
I had a huge post typed out, but lost it.
I've dealt with a ton of these.
They sound destroyed.
Bang, bang, bang
Same with any transfer case fluids, if you have all time.(quadra)
The clutches have to slip all the time when you turn. Regular fluid isn't slick enough.
They are highly, highly sensitive to a proper ratio.
The noise will show up right away.

When friction additive is put in, do it first.
They often do it as an afterthought and it can't all fit in when they flood-fill cases.

Added...fix asap
When the clunk stops, so did your clutch pack.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Resident Jeep junkie here

Have you checked out any Jeep owners websites online? I am guessing that you have.
CV joint would be my guess also.

originally posted by: Mandroid7
Yes, redo your axle fluid.
I had a huge post typed out, but lost it.
I've dealt with a ton of these.
They sound destroyed.
Bang, bang, bang
Same with any transfer case fluids, if you have all time.(quadra)
The clutches have to slip all the time when you turn. Regular fluid isn't slick enough.

When friction additive is put in, do it first.
They often do it as an afterthought and it can't all fit in when they flood-fill cases.

Added...fix asap
When the clunk stops, so did your clutch pack.

Let me know if you have any questions.
Resident Jeep junkie here

There's no duck emoji

originally posted by: Outerlimits13
Sounds like a bad CV joint. Friction additive is only needed for limited slip differentials which are only used in the rear. A bad diff will show metal particles in the fluid. When asking for car advice always give the year..

Cv axles make a high pitch click/tick sound and nearly all full time jeeps have front limited slips, minus some with arb air lockers, or my srt which runs an open front diff.
My 99 Grand was just returned to oil change place a month ago with this issue.
2 turns out of the place I knew what they didn't do.
And it sounds like catastrophic damage.