Evolution? The most GDed ridiculous Fing thing ever to have been imagined

a reply to: LABTECH767

No. Believing is not good enough anymore. We have to know.

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

It's so beautiful and complex, so varied and mysterious I can't help but be humbled by it all.

Stay the course you have good sense.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: cooperton

There are also no algorithms in reality. That's an abstract interpretation humans created, for logical reasons. It has very little to do with the decision making process of 'the real thing'.
Just fyi.

The human brain is constantly executing problem-solving operations. If you feel threatened, there's a biochemical response for that. It works exactly like an algorithm, especially biofeedback mechanisms. All built in to our wonderful supercomputers.

I'm just amazed what you call a conversation.
You suffer from some severe identity crisis.
How you do religion is stagnation. You keep up.

The only people who like this kind of talk are people with wretched hearts. You're going to attract a lot of garbage into your life if you maintain this type of demeanor. Reaping what you sow is a classic algorithm of reality.

a reply to: Peeple

We have to know.

The only way that happens isn't thru man Peep. I can promise you that.

a reply to: Peeple

It's good that you want to look under the bed and inside the wardrobe rather than hide under your sheet's.

But the truth is we can only know so much, beyond that our view of the world is limited by our very nature and circular logic will eventually thwart even the best science.

To know would require an expansion of consciousness beyond the size of the universe, you can never fully know yourself for example as to do so you would have to be greater than yourself in order to fully know yourself.

A mountain is not always there so that it should be climbed.

But while an open mind is generally good remember that it can also be open to the wrong things as well as the right ones.

Knowledge is a poisoned well, not all that we see is as it appears and the mistakes of great thinkers can leave a legacy of error that can span generations, just like flaws in scientific equations can cause errors that only grown greater as they are used as a basis for even more complex equations.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Randyvine2

I am partial to the Trans Panspermia Theory Myself . Think about how Weeds can Grow just about Anywhere.....

I have tried diligently to make some sense out of other beliefs.
I'm trapped by Jesus Christ. No way does anything else come close
and obviously by my heading I meant to show I'm not even the best
Christian in the world. In fact I do everything in my life half assed.

But I am a work in progress and dyspensation says I will be judged
but not condemned. So I stay in the trenches and never sway from
helping others see what I see. I hope to do my Lord worthy from the
pits. I love the one who gave us everything.

a reply to: LABTECH767

A 'subjective know' would work for me too. By experience. And it doesn't have to be the full truth, obviously.
But first of all we have to work for exactly that:

would require an expansion of consciousness

originally posted by: LABTECH767

But the truth is we can only know so much, beyond that our view of the world is limited by our very nature and circular logic will eventually thwart even the best science.

Exactly. Consider how the human brain on the surface looks like a maze. How quickly we can get lost in our own head if we are not careful. The heart is supposedly where the treasure is anyway.

originally posted by: Randyvine2

I have tried diligently to make some sense out of other beliefs.
I'm trapped by Jesus Christ. No way does anything else come close

It's hard to beat someone being put to death for nothing but speaking the truth, who then rose from the dead to validate everything He said. His philosophy too is spot-on.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Kaiju666

With respect to your resolve this is your issue.

And I don’t believe I have to.

How could this be even remotely true?

I don’t believe I have to believe one or the other. I don’t know what the truth is, even though I lean mostly towards evolution is the Chewbacca defense (does not make sense). It certainly doesn’t mean it’s truth. Beliefs don’t equal truths. And I can’t help much if people no comprende. As I said, I’m nuts, so I don’t expect people to understand …nor do I believe they have to

a reply to: cooperton

No no. I am what you sow and reap.
My heart knows exactly what it is doing. Does yours?

a reply to: cooperton

Except that he didn't rise from the dead. There's that little problem.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: cooperton

I will confess I am mystified by Creation itself, and our origins.

There are definitely Masculine and Feminine principles found throughout Creation.

I have no definitive answers to how this glorious mystery unfolded, but I am learning every day.

It's so beautiful and complex, so varied and mysterious I can't help but be humbled by it all.

Well said. It brings me great euphoria when I begin to contemplate the implications of this. If we were purposefully created by a benevolent limitless Being, then the potential for the future of our existence is amazing beyond our current comprehension.

a reply to: Peeple

Except that he didn't rise from the dead. There's that little problem.

Most scholars disagree so that's your problem. No scholar worth his salt
denies a Roman guard left their post when the stone rolled away and
Jesus Christ walked out of that grave. So there's that.

a reply to: Teikiatsu

As I like to say, God gave us the ability to reason for a reason.

There is one problem with this if you consider what went on in the garden.

We were better off without certain knowledge until the time was right and
God himself gave it to us. That's "The devils bargain" or "The ancient promise"
the elite even refer to openly.

Ye shall be like God! (Having full knowledge) Do I have to point out how
well that's working out for us?

originally posted by: LABTECH767
a reply to: Randyvine2

Well actually it does explain were we got Politicians from.

Ooooh that hurt where it counts!

a reply to: Randyvine2

Evolution is real. It always has been and always will be. What isn't real is what some people think is evolution. For example, the idea that man evolved from the apes. That is one of the most misquoted things ever. Man did not evolve from apes. Man and apes co-evolved form a common ancestor. You cannot evolve from a creature you co-exist with. Think McFly.....

God created life and gave it free will. My personal belief is that God initiated the spark of life in that primordial ooze and let it evolve on its own to whatever end it finally reaches. Its the best answer I have for how God can create life and still allow us to have free will. Our beginning was planned. The rest is up to us.

a reply to: Vroomfondel

God created life and gave it free will. My personal belief is that God initiated the spark of life in that primordial ooze and let it evolve on its own to whatever end it finally reaches. Its the best answer I have for how God can create life and still allow us to have free will. Our beginning was planned. The rest is up to us.

So you simply have your own undoctrinated version of life
as we know it. I'm sorry but I would rather something with
a bit more authority pertaining to what I believe rather than
something you commissioned from tainted thought. The Bible
is a miracle that we even have it. It most certainly is not to be
ignored. It is the truth from Tanis back to the garden and from the
garden till now. Big period. All you have to do is know of it's an
unheard of tapestry thru time. I am so greatful for it. It explains
everything in detail. And then some. Truly a masrerpiece of ancient
literature. And I scoff at anyone who doesn't see that.

a reply to: Brigadier

tFire was magic to the cavemen.
Or were there no cavemen because big man in the sky made people from the get go in ancient times, they allready had clothes, were adults, knew how to hunt food. Just popped out of nowhere.

You're so GD smart how many times did evolution have to occurr?
Once for the donosaurs. Once for the mamals and did humans evolve as children first
or did they evolve fully grown and capable of having children what's wrong with you?

What you project is retarded in every simplified ideology.

It wiouldn't even make for good fiction.

a reply to: Randyvine2

Right. lol
Just like the kingdom of God he promised that also already totally happened.

No

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: midicon

In this vast universe that has existed for nigh on 14 billion years,

Even your time periods are highly suspect.

I stated what is perhaps the current estimate. This can change as more information is gathered.

There is nothing of value in religion other than perhaps moral guidelines and a tribal sense of community. Having said that, moral codes do vary and some religions are patently more absurd than others.