Back to the dark ages

Some of us have been saying this for years now... and some of us are just so frustrated that our give-a-damn is now busted beyond repair. Well, folks in Europe and the UK... I'd suggest buying lots of blankets while you can still get them and while they do not cost more than your ice-cold house. Folks in the US... better get used to those power outages. Those gas generators will work for a while, but pretty soon you'll need a second or third mortgage, probably in the five-year repayment range, to heat your home for one winter.

Me? I got firewood... not a firewood supplier, real, actual hardwood that grows right here. Some people have been laughing at me because whenever I clear an area I chop what is the right size into firewood and just rick it up. I haven't burnt firewood in two years, so I have little ricks scattered all over these 16 acres. All I have to do is toss it in a heater. As for everyone else? Well, sorry to say, you were all warned. I might still feel sorry for you, but like I said...Maybe I should buy up a few thousand thick winter coats and hoard them until late January... they'll probably quintuple in price at least.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: 727Sky

So of course it's Russia's fault again. That seems to be the meme, Russia is going to kill you off by freezing Europe to death does anyone still believe this? How about just nipping across the border for a fill-up.

it's the doomsday climate cult.

russia is just the most convenient to blame.

in my day we only had tree huggers. save a tree,
eat a beaver.
at least they weren't a danger to society.

now we got these homicidal wack jobs.

a reply to: sarahvital

The electricity where I am does go off now and then. It's no big deal. Most of the houses around here have a lot of solar panels as the mains electrical supply can be dicey although it has been better of late. It's four degrees outside tonight and the wood fire has got through two bits of split gum. I put another solar panel on the trailer sailer and another hundred amp hour battery, since it also got an inverter I can run the house on an extension cord from the boat. Or I can run the workshop off it as well. The area where I live is a food exporting area and the big veggie shop has the stuff in it quite cheap. The sea is a hundred-yard walk and the fishing is good so spuds also grow all year around. Sometimes the roads get cut off by slips. The pm did a tour a while back and the locals shouted at her to # off. She did. So when it all collapses nothing much will change around my neck of the woods. People are pretty countrified where I am, but half of the population lives out in the wops. So I am thinking about how can they introduce a digital ID system where a good deal of the population lives in a half-self-sufficient situation, and with a bit of effort switch to a hundred percent if required.I think Klause's dream will only work in a city. Only then if the power supply stays up.

a reply to: sarahvital

its like most of humanity has joined the cult.. all of this is self inflicted which was always going to become apparent at the point the preachers say drink the poison.. for great swathes of the west that'll be this winter and its why Putin made the moves he did when he did not so much fearing last winter but waiting for the coming one..

this was locked in the moment Europe rejected the north sea gas for Russian gas and it was still salvageable, all it took was for Europe to be flexible but instead it locked itself into a trajectory of trying to be the continents dominant power by confronting its 2 counterweight powers, the Uk and Russia, that has never worked not for Rome, nor Napoleon or Hitler, it leads to a situation continental Europe loses, ever the purist even now it seeks confrontation with both at the same time...

In my region people say nothing publicly but a lot are stacking firewood and preparing, buying extra coal etc. Its truly scary, I had recently a letter from the landlord that the energy cost is going to increase significantly during winter.

What is crazy is while some are prepping many are just oblivious to what is coming. The media constantly go how we did not invest enough in renewable and like the covid #, if the vaccine does not work its because you did not take enough booster.

a reply to: DerBeobachter

it wasn't Fukushima, nor was it Merkel. it goes back much further in history, it wasn't even Chernobyl that did it. it goes back to at least the 1970's and 80's. as the "green part/movement" (and yes it was "green" even way back then), of environmentalists in Germany that politically forced Germany to shut down all nuclear plants because of the danger and environmental issues vis a vis dealing with the radioactive waste. it was only after that Chernobyl happened, vindicating their ideas about not using nuclear power at all.

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: 727Sky

So of course it's Russia's fault again. That seems to be the meme, Russia is going to kill you off by freezing Europe to death does anyone still believe this? How about just nipping across the border for a fill-up.

it's the doomsday climate cult.

russia is just the most convenient to blame.

in my day we only had tree huggers. save a tree,
eat a beaver.
at least they weren't a danger to society.

now we got these homicidal wack jobs.

you must be quite old, since those lunatics, known as tree huggers were already trying to kill innocent people, to stop logging, and that was in the 80's. it was really bad on Indian reserves where it was almost civil war between the members of the tribe over logging, with a lot of things like violent assaults against each other, for being on the wrong side of the issue.

a reply to: generik

It goes back further than that, at least back to the hippies of the 1960s.

What's sad is that they had (and have) good intentions and some good ideas... but they go too far. In the case of logging, it's bad for the environment, yes, to clear-cut areas... but it is also hard on the environment to not take out mature trees from time to time. That's precisely why the wildfires in California are getting worse: too much brush from older trees dropping limbs and even dying. There's a median in there that I have found on my little patch of woods, and that is to find the small loggers with the one- or two-man sawmills and let them spot-cut mature trees. I get lumber (mostly red oak), money (from cedars), free firewood, and a healthier patch of woodland, while the logger gets cedar lumber and money for their work. And others get the benefit of that cedar!

But try to tell that to a tree-hugger and you'll get nothing but a blank stare. And now they have gone beyond "saving trees" to trying to "save" every blasted stick and rock they see!

There is truth in the old prayer, "Lord, save me from the people who want to save me."

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Maybe if the EU didn’t go all make the peasants dependent on socialism and green new deals, they might have planted trees for firewood all over Europe and made wood burning stoves that last basically forever if cared for instead of solar panels that die after 10 years of weather exposure.

a reply to: Ahabstar

always a problem when some see themselves as the most advanced and most civilised as it leaves them existing on paper .

a reply to: nickyw

Just today I saw a guy on a sit down plow with three draft horses pulling it, plowing a field. He had quite a few passes down in a half hour when I returned past him.

a reply to: Ahabstar

thats excellent but its also quite telling of where we are..

a reply to: 727Sky

Why do people still listen to tucker carlson? Its like listening to some pundit on CNN or MSNBC.

I dont get those who dislike the bias of mainstream media but will still watch charismatic pundits on mainstream networks..

a reply to: CptGreenTea

Probably because Tucker usually has at least a smidgen of truth in his stories. CNN and MSNBC, not so much. Most of what they report is purely lies.

TheRedneck

a reply to: Ahabstar

Would it help to explain that I live in an area that has Mennonites and other old German religious orders?