Mark Steyn Questions Why Young Healthy People Are Dying Across The UK

a reply to: AaarghZombies

confused what you think you've debunked - there are new recommendations. Have a listen and follow the links.
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originally posted by: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

originally posted by: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

originally posted by: karl 12

This Dr Drew?
www.thescottishsun.co.uk...

Dr Drew is someone I admire and have conversed many times with on subjects from crystals to reiki to aliens and flat earth but I’m afraid he has no expertise in virology. He’s actually an expert/Dr of Crystals. Shame on you for muddying the doctors good name!

Dr Drew had a video banned from YouTube where he let doctors talk about vaxx side effects.

a reply to: BarbaraTheEnlightened1

Thanks for the post and apologies for not doing the due diligence.

Isn't the content of what was said absolutely correct?

Cheers Barbara.

a reply to: puzzled2

They have basically said if you are pregnant don't have the shot until you have gone through the pros and cons with your healthcare professional. Interesting.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Read the BBC article which explains the mix up and then how people chose to miss out the fact that it was from a 2020 posting.

She linked to a report from December 2020 which said, "reassurance of safe use of the vaccine in pregnant women cannot be provided at the present time", because of an absence of data and that, "women who are breastfeeding should also not be vaccinated".

Part of the confusion appeared to stem from the fact that a different part of the same webpage had been updated on 16 August 2022, to include some information about boosters.

A link to the outdated report was viewed across major social media platforms thousands of times, along with inaccurate claims including that the government had performed a "U-turn" and admitted the vaccine was "not safe for pregnant or breastfeeding women".

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
a reply to: Itisnowagain

Hes making sh# up as usual.

Post 1 link to anything I've made up on ATS in 16 years?!?!?!

Try posting some data that isn't from doom porn sites or "crackpot" sharlatan doctors. Also if you actually took the time to read about most of the people you link to, You will find a lot are retired peddling books and such.

Calling people bots and shills because they prove you only post data from "crackpot" doctors just shows how you can't find any real data from multiple sources, I've been a member for 16 years, if I was new member maybe, but thats some really deep planning to plant a bot just to point out your errors, but if that makes you feel special/better......
Ooooooo, I said crackpot again?!?!?!

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: puzzled2

They have basically said if you are pregnant don't have the shot until you have gone through the pros and cons with your healthcare professional. Interesting.

Anyone with any intelligence should know to do that if they're going to be taking any medication during pregnancy?

NHS

Before taking any medicine when you're pregnant, including painkillers, check with your pharmacist, midwife or GP that it's suitable.

When deciding whether to take a medicine during pregnancy, it's important to find out about the possible effects of that medicine on your baby.

a reply to: Kurokage
So did it appear or not appear on an actual gov.uk site?

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Kurokage
So did it appear or not appear on an actual gov.uk site?

Well, from what I've read so far, it appears that it was an update to a different part of the page, and also then parts of the page were cut down for spurious reasons by others. I added the 3 quotes in the post above that seemed most relevent, but read the link for more info'.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

Very easy to debunk.

1) The data that he's using classifies anybody under 50 as being young. If you look at the data that he is quoting you'll see that about 40 percent of those deaths are from covid, and are adults with comorbidity such as obesity, heart disease and diabetes. So an overweight person in their 40 dying of renal failure would count. We're not talking 15 year old cheerleaders here.

2) the other 60 percent is part of a trend that predates covid, here's an article from 2017 about the exact same topic Link. Poverty is the biggest trigger, as it's connected to drink and drug use as well as obesity.

So, not only is covid a significant factor, but where covid isn't part of the equation we're talking about something that began long before anyone was vaxxed.

It's the same in the US, poverty is killing the under 50s.

a reply to: Kurokage
So did you actually go to the actual document on gov.uk and read it for yourself?

Or have you just read the BBC link?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

I read the .gov site earlier when posted a broken link about it. I added the BBC link for clarity.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Itisnowagain
I read the .gov site earlier when posted a broken link about it.

Did you read the August 2022 update on the gov uk site.....that was not broken?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

There wasn't an update to do with pregancies in August and what people posted was a mix of the update in August about jabs and the previous 2020 update about pregancies.

a reply to: Kurokage
I told you to go to Google and search this:

Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech
Updated 16 August 2022

Did you find it?

a reply to: Kurokage
What people posted a mix up?

a reply to: Itisnowagain
I remember that, I copy/pasted into Google and read the .gov.uk webpage it got me to👍

originally posted by: angeltone
a reply to: Itisnowagain
I remember that, I copy/pasted into Google and read the .gov.uk webpage it got me to👍

Thank you
I was starting to think it's only on my google.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Kurokage
I told you to go to Google and search this:

Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech
Updated 16 August 2022

Did you find it?

Yes I did the search and I told you further back in the thread, it was a broken link.
After looking at other links, thats when I came across the BBC article and how people were mixing to parts of the page up.

a reply to: Kurokage

Yes I did the search and I told you further back in the thread, it was a broken link.

Do not use a link.

Type into Google exactly what I have written below:

Summary of the Public Assessment Report for COVID-19 Vaccine Pfizer/BioNTech
Updated 16 August 2022

And click search.

Do it now.