Covid propaganda, a personal account

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

It doesn't mention how he was on the extra oxygen for years

That's as close to a death sentence as one can get.

Even IF everyone on the planet were vaccinated, C19 would still be infecting people since being vaccinated doesn't stop ones' ability to contract covid.
It takes a lot of brainwashing to convince weak-minded, gullible people the unvaxed are the root cause the of covid spread.

Its seems that he was re-programmed during his NDE.

He was frightened for his life, problem - reaction - solution.

Doctors become the heroes in the restricted access Hospital. Keeps the truth out.

Why without some deep talking / therapy would he believe any other scenario.

He now believes he is correct due to his personal experience.

MK'd - fooled - deceived and frightened.

Poor guy.

a reply to: kwakakev

Great reasoning, but it doesn't explain why the wife flip-flopped as well.

Was she present at those meetings with the brainwashers, ooops, " Special-Covid-Doctors™ " ?


OP:
Sorry that you are going through that KL2.
Guess you'll see in a few weeks or so, if his anger subsides, and he mellows, or not.

Have lost a few "friends" since the beginning of the nonsense as well, but refuse to blame myself.
There has been my personal change, and theirs.
Unfortunately : the directions have been divergent.

Sad story, not nice to watch person you know starting act like that.


Anger can be caused also by body toxification , in many hospitals there is treatment protocols that include giving toxic coctails to patients .......it can then quite easely effect liver, and once enough crap flys to liver, person can become angry .

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

I'm really bad at trusting 3rd hand accounts of information and I want to say that it's all too convenient that doctors would be blaming the unvaccinated in the case of a person being 'turned' in terms of propaganda...

But it does come back to the conundrum of an actual immune system's defenses Vs those of an artificially inflated one. So I'm listening. I sarcastically mentioned early on with all this that inevitably we might start shooting the dirty mask-less coughers. I guess that finally extends to medical choices too!

Someone suggested new friends... Idk. I guess I'd go a bit mental if I nearly died too? Totally off topic but I was watching a documentary on JP Morgan the other day, say what you will about him but the man was never dishonest or anything but 100% upfront... Most can't live like that, in the drastic times or even the peaceful times.

So I'd say potentially be easy on him for potentially being highly dishonest and taking things totally too far when they clearly needn't be.

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2

He said that 'several' doctors explained to him that the unvaccinated carry the virus but they don't get sick from it anymore, then they give it to the vaccinated and they do get sick. So everyone should be vaccinated to protect each other. Otherwise, the unvaccinated person can considered to be a murderer.

This is such a telling statement... so the unvaccinated don't get sick huh? Almost like they developed a natural immunity huh? And why would the vaccinated be getting sick if the vaccine works so well huh? I have to say, I have noticed an unusual amount of people getting ill lately. I wasn't sure if it was just my imagination, but after hearing what these doctors said, I'm starting to think the vaccine really has weakened peoples immune system in some way.

It reminds me of what the paramedics said when I had to call an ambulance for my father shortly after his last Covid shot. They said it can be normal to have a reaction after the vaccine, that tells you the vaccine is working because it has triggered an immune response. Except the immune response my father had almost killed him. And the shot he had before that put him in bed for a week. These health "experts" are so brainwashed or in such a deep state of denial it's not even funny anymore. They need to wake up and think carefully about whether they want to help or hurt people.

Knowing that I'm likely to get sick more often if I have constant injections, why on Earth would I subject myself to that? That knowledge only makes me much less inclined to get the vaccine. I rarely get sick, I've been sick with a flu once throughout the entire pandemic. I decided from the beginning I would never give into their peer pressure and fearmongering, regardless of how intense it got, because I could clearly see how authoritative figures were manipulating science for political reasons. I've been studying conspiracies and propaganda for far too long not to see it plain as day.

a reply to: Nothin

Great reasoning, but it doesn't explain why the wife flip-flopped as well.

Stand by your man?

It's usually coming from a place of what you have and not of great loyalty... The huge health scare cements the necessity to support feeling?

I'm not a doctor or marriage counselor.
Seen it enough to say it's somewhat unsurprising though.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

In some perverse way it is true that the unvaxed is dangerous to the vaxed, anyone with a poor immune system has to watch normal random bugs. But they are going to pick them up in the air and on things anyway. The bio flora on a healthy person.Could be dangerous to them.A couple of generations watching the TV to find out what to think, sort of makes me think it's pretty much over anyway.

a reply to: RAY1990

LoL !! You had me singing that old Tammy Wynette song, He-he-he.

Could be that for sure.
Support your teammates, no matter what.

Perhaps the OP : KL2 will follow-up on how that evolves ?

Maybe in a couple of weeks, they'll be able to have a semi-normal convo ?

On another level : where in the hell are all of the Human-rights lawyers, advocacy-groups, unions, etc..., on allowing a portion of society to be lowered to #ing leper-status ?

a reply to: Nothin

Great reasoning, but it doesn't explain why the wife flip-flopped as well.

When living with an angry husband, the wife has been pressured to submit. Most likely receives a lot of his emotional outbursts around this topic and not in a position to fight it. I don't know this man, sounds like a good person in general. As for the covid issue it is just easier to go along with it and beyond her capability to resolve it.

a reply to: kwakakev

Yeah : can reason your rhyme.
Worth consideration.

Have met many couples, who will back each other up, no matter what.

Many have White-Coat-Syndrome™ : where they believe, and worship, every word that comes-out of a supposedly authoritative mouth.

A few months ago, an old friend who used to be anti-authority every which way : has turned into an MSM™ junkie, who, similar to the OP, blew-up in anger when he was questioned about all of this insanity.

Hopefully the anger will subside, and the good man from the OP finds better health soon, and my old bud will be able to listen to reason.

One thing also which has had huge impact to peoples mind...fear .

When fear take`s the mind, people act different way ...

Osho Quotes on Fear

Fear Is a Passive Form of Anger

“Life should be surrounded by love, not by fear. It is fear that creates anger. It is fear that ultimately creates violence. Have you watched? Fear is only a feminine form of anger and anger is a masculine form of fear. Fear is a passive form of anger and anger is an active form of fear. So you can change fear into anger very easily, and anger into fear – very easily. “I say, ‘You just try!’ And it becomes a revelation even to them. If they can beat the pillow in real, hot anger, immediately fear disappears, because the same energy turns and becomes active. It was inactive, then it was fear. Fear is the root cause of hate, anger, violence.”

Fear: Understanding and Accepting the Insecurities of Life by Osho

a reply to: Noth

On another level : where in the hell are all of the Human-rights lawyers, advocacy-groups, unions, etc..., on allowing a portion of society to be lowered to #ing leper-status ?

in

Quietly wondering if anyone ever cared? Their book is filled unfortunately. Learn this sh#t yourself, especially the Americans... I'd imagine they'd say.

Considering y'all are the embodiment of living freedom. Come show us we need it 😁

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder

originally posted by: KindraLabelle2

He said that 'several' doctors explained to him that the unvaccinated carry the virus but they don't get sick from it anymore, then they give it to the vaccinated and they do get sick. So everyone should be vaccinated to protect each other. Otherwise, the unvaccinated person can considered to be a murderer.

This is such a telling statement... so the unvaccinated don't get sick huh? Almost like they developed a natural immunity huh? And why would the vaccinated be getting sick if the vaccine works so well huh? I have to say, I have noticed an unusual amount of people getting ill lately. I wasn't sure if it was just my imagination, but after hearing what these doctors said, I'm starting to think the vaccine really has weakened peoples immune system in some way.

Isn't that what people have been saying here since the beginning? That the jab will kill our natural immune system?
I do know of unvaxed who got covid, most of them feel either nothing or they describe it as a mild flu. The virus is getting milder, those who end up in the hospital mostly had underlying health issues, being vaxed doesn't make the difference here.

It just blew my mind how a doctor, who is considered to be a smart person, still says such things.... Does this proof that none of them knows the truth behind the jabs? Last year when they wanted to make the jab mandatory, half of people that worked in healthcare opposed it, half was for it...
Either way, they can have their opinion, but convincing their patients is wrong

a reply to: RAY1990

I know people on ATS don't like a 3rd hand account, I can only hope that those who know me here also know that I don't make stuff up

The thing is, over here the entire covid/jab discussion seemed over, no one is talking about it anymore and most people say that they are not taking the fall jab because they don't believe in it anymore. Our covid wards in the hospitals are as good as empty.
My friend had health issues for years and it was almost a certainty that getting covid on top of that would land him in the hospital. He knew that as well! So why deny that fact now?

I know he went through hell and back, and it takes time to get over that experience. But his wife, in a way she's even worse, mentally, and completely traumatized by it all. They both need time...

Last time I was on the phone with him he talked about the coma and how he thinks he remembers things, like some sort of awareness. He now feels it gave him some kind of spiritual awakening and he says he's no longer afraid to die.

I'm not angry at them at all, I just hope they will come to realize that those doctors were giving them an opinion and not a fact. I'll know when I tell him I'm unvaccinated. It feels wrong not to tell him, knowing how he feels about it.

Next time I speak to either of them, I want to know how the media got a hold of him, if they published his exact words, etc....

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: Nothin

Great reasoning, but it doesn't explain why the wife flip-flopped as well.

When living with an angry husband, the wife has been pressured to submit. Most likely receives a lot of his emotional outbursts around this topic and not in a position to fight it. I don't know this man, sounds like a good person in general. As for the covid issue it is just easier to go along with it and beyond her capability to resolve it.

All I can say is that C caries his wife on a golden platter, so to speak. She does exactly what she wants, when she wants it and I've never known him to 'pressure' her in any way.

But, as I said in a post above, she is also very traumatized by all that happened and is emotionally doing worse then he is. So why did she 'flip flop'? No idea... when he was in a coma she talked to those doctors daily, who knows what they told her.... she's not really talking about it

As for C, he is telling his story to anyone who wants to hear it, over and over again, that's when you hear the anger towards the unvaxed . I don't know how and if they talk about it towards each other.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

I know people on ATS don't like a 3rd hand account, I can only hope that those who know me here also know that I don't make stuff up

I believe you and the story all adds up really.

Last time I was on the phone with him he talked about the coma and how he thinks he remembers things, like some sort of awareness. He now feels it gave him some kind of spiritual awakening and he says he's no longer afraid to die.

It's easy for me to say from a distance yet I would say he has some sort of fear for life if he's willing to go head first into the covid-propaganda pool. That said idk, it's rare to meet people in those circumstances and from what I've seen some become as cool and calm as stone whilst others hear the callings so to speak. Being spiritually rocked ain't easy!

Covid has been such a strange infection, I'm unvaccinated and haven't been able to catch despite 5 extremely close infections (same house) on 3 different occasions and technically I might be at higher risk due to some undiagnosed/hard to pin issues. Again covid is weird... I suspect the tricky diagnosis is a result of a covid infection just before the pandemic which would somewhat explain my reluctance to catch it again!

For most the threat of death was highly avoidable and the rest was a roll of the die. I didn't want to roll again with the vaccine.

a reply to: KindraLabelle2

Yeah, well when he buys into the whole " the unvaccinated are getting the vaccinated sick" and then threatening to murder unvaccinated people he has shown that he's irrational, believes his doctor's BS and is a POS. You might want to consider telling him to cool and take a step back. Why you choose to be friends with him is your perogative, but I wouldn't be friends with him if that's how he is.

a reply to: Kenzo

I only get with women who have enough of a backbone to tell me when I'm acting like an ahole. If I was threatening to kill people I would hope my partner would tell me to quit being an idiot.

Can agree with this. Will have more to say about this soon