Question about quantum entanglement

Thank you everybody for great answers!

There is research that is examining the possibility that spacetime itself emerges from entanglement. If that is the case it would explain why the speed of entanglement is not be limited by spacetime. Its all far beyond my veggie math educated mind unfortunately....

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String theory is basically a cult science now, the OCDers can't figure Einstein's junk out, the problem here arises with Plancks fudge solution to the ultraviolet catastrophe, but they have a disorder that needs to be fed.

let em play...

a reply to: CyberBuddha

If you try, you can consciously communicate beyond what your have been programmed.

Do you own personal experiments, reach out consciously, it may surprise you.

Don't reach out externally, reach out internally.

originally posted by: CyberBuddha

A layman would like to know. If I misstated anything, please correct me to better understand the subject.

Planck's (solution) is an "assumption" always keep that in mind... and assumptions are not "facts" in science... assumptions require the scientific method called experiment to be confirmed. Science is objective, you either know something or we don't.

Reductionism is a very linear one-dimensional view (pun intended) string theory is the cult of nothing and you can't use mathematical trickery to feed one's own psychosis.
Foundation of Mathematics

Einstein was very young in his early and mid 20s when he showed these old fuddy duddies how to think and exactly how broken their obsessive chalkboard equations are. Einstein was a doer who actually had to work for a living, a thinker, visionary, a layman...

Einstein was like the auto mechanic who changes your oil or the carpenter who built your home that showed these elitist how to think and they had a hard time accepting that, even still they can't think like him, surely not using a pen and paper.

a reply to: iamthevirus

Additionally...

Planck through what was mostly guesswork, he came up with this little constant that made all the numbers add up.  After doing some black body experiments, his equations appeared to work across the entire spectrum.  Its significance would not be made apparent, however, until he was forced to come up with a "theoretical" basis for it.

Note that Einstein threw out his cosmological constant, he knew it was self-serving.

Also note that when you hear/read the word "experiment" as relating to Quantum Physics that just simply means "another equation" or "more math" it does not mean the same thing in the context of the Scientific Method which states that you need a real "hardware" experiment (you have to demonstrate it)

Planck had a pretty intuitive hack that's for sure, but it's all scribble on the chalkboard... it hasn't been demonstrated to us yet.

I have a question that I have never found an answer to, and I suspect someone on this thread will probably have the answer.

Is it possible to entangle more than 2 particles?

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: CyberBuddha

If you try, you can consciously communicate beyond what your have been programmed.

Do you own personal experiments, reach out consciously, it may surprise you.

Don't reach out externally, reach out internally.

Would one rather know the universe as a single atom, quark, photon or "nothing" at all... or would one rather travel outside of it and see its face, to know it as the whole?

That's for each individual to decide, I personally prefer the holistic approach. A flower is more beautiful than the nothing at all it consists of.

originally posted by: whiteboyrick
I have a question that I have never found an answer to, and I suspect someone on this thread will probably have the answer.

Is it possible to entangle more than 2 particles?

Yes it's possible, but most explanations you will find about entangled particles refer to the unique behavior of an entangled pair.

Here's a case where the scientists claim to have entangled 15 trillion atoms in an interesting experiment:

Physicists entangle 15 trillion hot atoms

Physicists set a new record by linking together a hot soup of 15 trillion atoms in a bizarre phenomenon called quantum entanglement...

The atoms were in what physicists call a macroscopic spin singlet state, a collection of pairs of entangled particles' total spin sums to zero. The initially entangled atoms pass their entanglement to each other via collisions in a game of quantum tag, exchanging their spins but keeping the total spin at zero, and allowing the collective entanglement state to persist for at least a millisecond. For instance, particle A is entangled with particle B, but when particle B hits particle C, it links both particles with particle C, and so on.

This "means that 1,000 times per second, a new batch of 15 trillion atoms is being entangled," Kong said in a statement. One millisecond "is a very long time for the atoms, long enough for about 50 random collisions to occur. This clearly shows that the entanglement is not destroyed by these random events. This is maybe the most surprising result of the work."

a reply to: Arbitrageur

So where is this experiment and the camera which took the image?

Or does this "experiment" exist on a blackboard and the image an artists representation?

They've been trying to get people to believe/have faith in unseen things for thousands of years... that doesn't go over too well in the scientific objective mind.

100+ years of "hope" (and twice as many Einsteins now) from QM, where's the beef?

originally posted by: pheonix358
Einstein led us down the garden path to nowhere ... deliberately.

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Actually that's quite the opposite, QM is the conspiracy... Einstein got/takes us places... in the "real" he showed us the path.

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: Arbitrageur

So where is this experiment and the camera which took the image?

Or does this "experiment" exist on a blackboard and the image an artists representation?

They've been trying to get people to believe/have faith in unseen things for thousands of years... that doesn't go over too well in the scientific objective mind.

100+ years of "hope" (and twice as many Einsteins now) from QM, where's the beef?

You seem to lack familirity with how science works.

I can't show you a "picture" of the electrons powering a vacuum cleaner, but I can use instruments to infer their existence and show solid models with accurate predictions of how the vacuum cleaner motor works using electricity to power it. I can see the evidence of electrons if I fire them out of a certain apparatus onto a screen.

Likewise the scientists use instrumentation to infer certain aspects of their experimental setup, and don't forget they are not working in isolation but are building on centuries of previous experiments and knowledge development.

Here's their paper describing the experimental setup and results:

Measurement-induced nonlocal entanglement in a hot, strongly-interacting atomic system

That said, scientists are a skeptical bunch and they like to say they don't trust other scientists, but they do trust science. Individual science claims can be and sometimes have been wrong, but science is self-correcting in that claims aren't accepted at face value, but are subjected to scrutiny, such as repitition of experiment to see if the results claimed can be reproduced.

One example that comes to mind was the first gravitational wave experiments, where the researcher claimed to detect gravitational waves. Nobody else believed him, and he really didn't have the proper apparatus to detect them. But eventually, the proper detectors were built, and really did detect gravitational waves. In one famous detection, astronomers pointed their telescopes at the region of the sky where the waves emanated from, and in fact were able to take pictures! That was a truly astounding confirmation that we really are measuring gravitational waves this time, but unfortunately not everything lends itself to being photographed like that.

First Glimpse of Colliding Neutron Stars Yields Stunning Pics

Telescopes all over the world and in space were busy on Aug. 17, when scientists made the first-ever observations of both light and gravitational waves from a single cosmic event. Here are some of the stunning images of the event, including some from the Hubble Space Telescope...

So in that example we had a scientist who was wrong, but overall, science self-corrected, and now we have an exciting new field of gravitational astronomy.

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: iamthevirus
a reply to: Arbitrageur

So where is this experiment and the camera which took the image?

Or does this "experiment" exist on a blackboard and the image an artists representation?

They've been trying to get people to believe/have faith in unseen things for thousands of years... that doesn't go over too well in the scientific objective mind.

100+ years of "hope" (and twice as many Einsteins now) from QM, where's the beef?

You seem to lack familirity with how science works.

One should probably have a better pretense and presumption of others if they expect someone else to read their posts.

I find this lack of refinement rather insulting.

QM | GR is yet but another left/right paradigm, it all boils down to how one was trained to think and views the world.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: drongosrevenge

Oppenhiemer created the bomb.

Not Einstein.

Get your facts straight.

Given the possibility that the Germans developed nuclear energy technology to build the atomic bomb, Einstein was asked to write a letter to President Roosevelt. In this letter Einstein recommended to the US president that the United States pay attention and devote himself to his own investigation of nuclear weapons.

The letter is believed to be "possibly the key stimulus for the adoption by the United States of serious investigations into nuclear weapons on the eve of the entry of the United States into World War II." In addition to the letter, Einstein used his connections with the Belgian royal family and the Belgian queen mother to gain access with a personal envoy to the White House Oval Office. Some say that as a result of Einstein's letter and his meetings with Roosevelt, the United States entered the "race" to develop the bomb, taking advantage of its "immense material, financial and scientific resources" to start the Manhattan Project.

In 1939 his most important participation in world issues takes place. The Smyth Report, although with subtle cuts and omissions, tells the story of how physicists tried, unsuccessfully, to interest the Navy and the Army in the nuclear energy project. But Einstein's famous letter to Roosevelt written on August 2 was the one that broke the rigidity of the military mentality. However, EINSTEIN, who feels contempt for violence and wars, IS CONSIDERED THE FATHER OF THE ATOMIC BOMB. In the middle of World War II he supported an initiative by Robert Oppenheimer to begin the nuclear weapons development program known as the Manhattan Project.

Subsequently, Einstein promoted the well-known Russell-Einstein Manifesto, an appeal to scientists to unite in favor of the disappearance of nuclear weapons. This document served as inspiration for the subsequent foundation of the Pugwash Conferences, which in 1995 were awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.

The Manhattan Project
The Manhattan project was the project to develop the first nuclear weapon (popularly known as the atomic bomb) during World War II by the United States, the United Kingdom and Canada. What was officially called the Manhattan Engineering District refers to the period 1941-1946, when the project was under the control of the US Army Genie Corps., Under the administration of Major General Leslie R. Groves. The scientific research was conducted by the American physicist J. Robert Oppenheimer.

The project was successful in the development and detonation of three nuclear weapons in 1945

nuclear-energy.net...

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: drongosrevenge

Oppenhiemer created the bomb.

Not Einstein.

Get your facts straight.

And it echoes loud and clear...

"I Am Become Death"

Spoken in true form of the Hegelian dialectic.

(the Become)

a reply to: iamthevirus

I Have Become Death, Destroyer of Worlds.

originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: iamthevirus

I Have Become Death, Destroyer of Worlds.

The mathematical concept of "nothing" (the number 0) came from there also (eastern philosophy)

coincidence? ...I think not

/dig deep

a reply to: GENERAL EYES

"Nothing" should be "Infinity"

(forever, not oblivion)

imo of course

Not the way we think of the number 0 now

Here lies the confusion and why mathematicians have such a hard time dealing with Infinity.

There is nothing at rest in the universe,

There is no 0, it's a mathematical construct.