Has WWIII already begun...? And is it the forces of globalization vs. militant Islam...?

Looking ay current world events... I have to ask was 9/11 the new Pearl Harbor...?

So, is the "War on Terrorism" just another name for the #rd world war...??

IF this is World War III this has got to be the most pathetic World War ever. A giant near-invincible western military force that has so far went in and knocked over two Middle Eastern countries that had little to no actual military defense and handfuls of rebels that have only the basics of weaponry.

When this war becomes a nuclear exchange between global military powers, then you can call it WWIV (Or III if you prefer to not consider the Cold War WWIII).

9/11 was more like the burning of the Reichstag than Pearl Harbor.

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Yes World WarIII has started.

Its just waiting to esculate. Things will get worse depending on how our next President is. We can't have a push over or a overly confident cocky one either he's got to be right in the middle and strong when its comes to issues that involve the US.

I believe that the insurgents in Iraq will never end and that goes for every where else in the World. This is a guerilla warfare and it won't end as long as someone supports them and they have a place to go for safety, and fresh bodies.

Id like to remind everybody who reads this that the last time the US was attacked on such a scale it ended with us nuking people. We may as well have been nuked on 9/11. It did that much damage. No matter what happens to end it, the US will once again come out on top. How it will end wil be hell on earth no matter which way you theorize it. The most likely scenario is that we nuke Iran.

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The whole point behind the Iraq war was to get onto Irans doorstep. They are now completely surrounded. With forces in Afghanistan in the north to forces in the south in Iraq. The nearly undefeatable US navy covers the east and west. The single largest proprieter of fundamentalist extremist Islam is and has been Iran. We have been fighting an Iranian funded and supplied insurgency. This is no secret.

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My personal view of how it will go down is this. Iran continues to fail to meet UN security coucil deadlines one after another. The US manages to get actual real physical evidence of a nuclear weapons program. Millions of Iranian civilians begin the exodus out of Iran into Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq etc. They and the rest of the world know whats coming next. More physical evidence of a nuclear weapons program is coraborated with evidence found by other nations intel as well.

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The UN gives Iran one last chance and is issued an ultimatum like was issued to Iraq. They of course dont comply. US forces in Afghanistan swell to 200.000 and likewise in Iraq. All over the course of a month. The mullahs in Iran start some pretty seroius sabre rattling at the now truly multinational forces at their borders. With real evidence an Iranian invasion is a much easier sell. At this point the US has had specops in Iran for a year mapping out targets.

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It comes down to another 48 hour ultimatum issued by Bush. Instead of complying the mullahs make the claim of having nuke armed missiles ready to fire. Having seen this coming for quit a while Bush orders the first wave of airstrikes as soon as the mullahs have finished claiming that they have nukes pointed at everybody and this is before the ultimatum is up.

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Having had specops forces in country for so long the US knows exactly where there secret nuke sites are. B-2 stealth bombers drop the new bunker busting nukes at all suspected nuke facilities destroying them completely. Israeli planes take out the Natanz plant. One very big risk is that Iran has a hidden scud somewhere with a nuke on it pointed at Israel. If it comes down to they only have a couple of nuclear missiles and their backs are to the wall they will launch them at Israel instead of coalition forces. It has been stated many many times that Irans sole purpose is the destruction of Israel and they mean it.

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Wether they nuke Israel or not Tehran falls in less than a month. Damascus shortly thereafter. Seeing that hes last on a very short list Kim Jong Il sends a half a million men screaming through the DMZ. NK opens up on Seoul with over five thousand artillery pieces. Keep in mind that they are using bio chem warheads as first offense weapons. The half million men sent through the DMZ dont make it more than 20 to 50 miles past the DMZ. Its an absolute bloodbath not seen on such a scale since WW2. Nearly all the five thousand plus artillery pieces are vaporized by once again bunker busting nukes dropped by the B-2 Spirit. Possibly US nuclear artillery shells as well. Remaining NK forces attempt to launch their crude nuclear missiles at the rapidly advancing US/South Korean forces which most likely will number around 600,000 combined. At least one NK nuclear missile will go off on/in its launcher/silo? wiping out the NK nuclear threat. What is left of the NK forces retreats into Russia. Some high ranking officers are allowed to escape into China. China will not back NK in case of war. Morally yes but militarily no.

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The NK forces that have retreated into Russia manage to hold territory in one way or another for at least a year. The US repeatedly offers assistance but the Russians are to proud to ask for help and dont want US forces crossing their border. It takes at least six months for the proper Russian forces to assemble and coordinate. The other six months sees the remaning NK forces turned into a peanut butter like substance by Russian forces. In all no less than 2 million people are dead possibly on the Korean peninsula alone. Let alone Iran.

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It will truly take a miracle not to end up without the wholesale annihilation of Iran and North Korea. They have been the two biggest thorns in the side of the world since Nazi Germany and Japan. Not to just the US either. This has all been coming for a very long time. This will all go down over the course of the next 24-36 months. North Korea may very well get some kind of missile(s) through to the US west coast. Russia will become even poorer due to the costs of having to clean out their countrysides of truly mad fight to the death North Koreans. You know, the ones that actually think that Kim Jong Ill invented the car and landed on the moon.

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The war becomes the biggest economical and technological boom ever for the US. The war will see the dawn of the next generation of science fiction like US weaponry that has been rumored for so long. Things like the Aurora plane(s) and the unveiling of SDI which has been operational since 1990. Haarp plays a role in weather modifiactions in favor of coalition troops. The F-22 shows how superior it really is and takes out anything put up against it prompting congress to order hundereds more. The M-8 is now fully fielded in five different interchangable calibers. 9mm,5.56,6.5Grendel,6.8Remington and 7.62 Nato. Of course Im sure some would like to argue. Youre thoughts please. Thank You....

Interesting theory SonofSpy, but it is only a theory, and I feel the actual situation will be played out much much differently. Perhaps if you were to offer some evidence in support of some of your claims you theory would be more valid.

Israel will not hesitate to destroy Irans Nuclear facilities. When will Russia start sending in the fuel? Whats happens next will depend on Russia.

When Israel destroyed Iraq's nuclear facilities there was no massive Arab backlash but will Iran be different? Will conservative regimes and monarchies want to retaliate against Israel for destroying a very liberal revolutionary regimes nuclear ambitions.

The Arabs are not as united as you think. The Saudi Royal family is as afraid of the Islamic revolution in Iran as democracy in Iraq. I don't believe there will be an Arab attack on Israel. Of course the leaders of Arab countries will condemn Israel to avoid getting capped by some etremist.

Who will be there to help Iran. Russia. Russia invested a lot of money into Iran and now it is gone. What will Russia do to Israel? Syria may be a base for Russia as Syro-Russo relations are as high as ever.

Kim is a maniac who is capable of anything. Whatever Kim does I think China will be on the rightside.

Personally I think it could be considered WW3 if there was a clear conflict. Since you don't know who really did the 9/11 attack, you can't really state there is a purpose.

All major wars tend to have purposes and I don't believe terrorism is a purpose. Who's the fight against? An idealogy? Anarchism? Anyone who disagrees or doesn't like America?

The common assumption would be a pro-active attack against fundamentalists who may strike later. Well, you create more fundamentalists when you do that. So I don't see it as a war or a world war.

I see it as a convenient plan to turn 3rd world countries around which should have occured a long time ago.

Here we are in a civilized world and you have people living in mud huts. I think the real war is on the old world. No more living in caves, or hating a new world mindset.

They've just been taken over by the NWO. Which is what people don't realize. You are the NWO. And they are the OWO.

With your Starbucks and McDonalds on every corner leaving everyone wired and sick. But you keep spending, feeding the hungry companies.

And now those same hungry companies are going overseas. To bomb and then charge to rebuild. And while they are rebuilding, why not add a mall. Maybe a store, and some restaraunts. Create an economy, put them on the Euro perhaps. And get more access to their oil.

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Although I don't think a war with Iran will happen I think Iran will be attack though via massive air strikes. I don't think that will be the start of WWII it will just be another war.

The war on terrorism has already went global a long time ago. It is not a world war like WWI or WWII.

I think the term Cold War II is more applicable. As in the first Cold War, it may turn into a new world war: the third.

Blobber

...I guess I'm more pessimistic. I think forces are building toward an armed
global conflict. I think the war on terrorism is a way to ursher in "a new
world order". Which would be a homoginized, westernized world. Kind of
like "Pax Americana".

Awesome theorizations SoS. I voted you way above. So many people like to yap about this and that but you laid out a very clear prediction and I liked a lot of it. You obviously have great faith in military hardware.

I have a question though. Wouldn't Israel be nuked? At least then, Muslims could say that their religion meant something (before it's removed from the political/military board). If they destroy the political results of Isaac's offspring (Israel) then they win, in a way. Why do you think they won't? I'd suspect a ground blast in a truck, myself. No patriots to deal with, etc.

Also, wouldn't that cause Israel's "Ultimate Defense" to be enacted? They have dozens of warheads and plenty of muscle to distribute them to whomever they wish. What happens next?

I have friends in Sweden, Holland, Germany and they are all saying the same thing. Muslim immigration is the major problem. This is a clash of cultures and yes, I do think this is the big showdown of our age. I do not think it will be as bright as SoS paints it. Nuclear use raises the game to a new level. Once a city gets hit, the question of retaliation becomes one of body-count. If we lose 30 million people in a single ICBM attack, musn't we kill 30 million of our enemies' people? Deterrence theory says we must.





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that is a very "patriotic" view you have there SoS but all kidding aside ,with all due respect for the american war might you seem to have forgotten countries like china, russia and to a lesser extent india and pakistan , if it were to happen as you predict dont you think that this emerging powers might want to flex their millitary muscle to take a peice of the world pie, and it isn't as if they dont have their own super freaky science whizes working on their own super weapons (around 1/2 of the techies and engineers graduating from top teir colleges are from that part of the world and dont forget all the computer prograammers they have ) .
The same thing happened during WW2, russia was an ally but when all the dust had settled and the pie had been shared they ended up on the other side of the iron curtain. so you see as history shows, the world isn't so black and white, every one has their own agenda and some one is always waiting to take advantage of the situation.

I want to make a comment about the title of this post. Militant Islam also wants globalization. They believe ALL people on the world should be Muslims. It’s stated right in the Koran and its what Bin Laden himelf is all about.

So a better title for this thread would be:

"Has WWIII already begun...? And is it the forces of globalization vs. Islamic globalization?"

Originally posted by verfed
Israel will not hesitate to destroy Irans Nuclear facilities. When will Russia start sending in the fuel? Whats happens next will depend on Russia.

When Israel destroyed Iraq's nuclear facilities there was no massive Arab backlash but will Iran be different? Will conservative regimes and monarchies want to retaliate against Israel for destroying a very liberal revolutionary regimes nuclear ambitions.

The Arabs are not as united as you think. The Saudi Royal family is as afraid of the Islamic revolution in Iran as democracy in Iraq. I don't believe there will be an Arab attack on Israel. Of course the leaders of Arab countries will condemn Israel to avoid getting capped by some etremist.

Who will be there to help Iran. Russia. Russia invested a lot of money into Iran and now it is gone. What will Russia do to Israel? Syria may be a base for Russia as Syro-Russo relations are as high as ever.

Kim is a maniac who is capable of anything. Whatever Kim does I think China will be on the rightside.

Israel is not worth the crap of a cockroach! Who the hell do you think Israel is? This tiny little country, not much larger than monaco, and with a population of a couple million orange-growing settlers thinks that it has become a super power which can threaten to bomb any country it wants just because it doesn't want them to have certain weapons or whatever.... Israel better find its rightful place in the world before it will regret that it ever came into existence some 50 years ago.

This is not quite WW III, but far from a cold war. We have over 1500 troops dead...thats not cold anymore.

SonofSpy...thats well said. I don't think NK would go into Russia, but the rest of it makes alot of sense. Iran is surounded and we all know...America is NOT leaving the Middle-East until we take down Irans government.

I would hope that Israel has a decent ABM systems set up to take down incoming RV's. Siroos, your statement about Israel is so screwed up, Im not sure where to begin.

Maximu§

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What we are seeing is not WWIII, but it is what will lead to WWIII. America is preparing the fertile grounds for an ever increasing hatred for the U.S. all over the world, but in particular the Muslim world and the developing countries. This hatred is growing more and more intense by the hour. The agressors in this world war are the U.S. and Israel, and the ultimate loosers will be the U.S. and Israel more than anyone else. America's and Israel's hostilities and threats directed against Islam, the Muslims and the Muslim world, will backfire on them. Currently the vast majority of Muslims are tolerant, patient and peaceful, but as the Islam-bashing led by the U.S. and Israel keeps gaining more and more momentum, the patience and tolerance of the vast majority of Muslims will wear thin. The third world war will be a battle for: 1) the quest of the U.S. to control the world 2) A crusade against Islam by an unholy alliance of corrupt zionists and fanatic and racially motivated evangelic Christian fundamentalists 3) Natural resources and energy resources which the U.S. will want to secure for itself 4) Passify any contry who defies the U.S. and poses as an obstacle to the U.S. agenda.

Originally posted by demosthenes
Yes World WarIII has started.

Its just waiting to esculate. Things will get worse depending on how our next President is. We can't have a push over or a overly confident cocky one either he's got to be right in the middle and strong when its comes to issues that involve the US.

I believe that the insurgents in Iraq will never end and that goes for every where else in the World. This is a guerilla warfare and it won't end as long as someone supports them and they have a place to go for safety, and fresh bodies.

You're damn right that the "insurgents" won't end, but it's not because some people support them. It's because the U.S. has no business in other peoples' countries. Would you like if Iraq came and invaded your country because it didn't approve of your government, and of the fact that you have nuclear weapons? That's how these Iraqis see the situation in their country. As long as the U.S. continues its expansionist and imperialist policies and victimizes the poor and defenseless countries of the world, the hatred against the U.S. will grow stronger and more intense by the minute.

I read somewhere (i wish i could remember where) that Israel has a stanglehold on the US economically.
No real evidence i saw with those allegations, but it would explain why the US seems to support Israel.
I do think something is going on, but it is very difficult to work out what.
definately some US+Israel V Iran plotting going on.
Can it really come down to a simple religious war in the making? Jews V Arabs?

Here is an article i found
www.thetruthseeker.co.uk...


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Originally posted by SonofSpy
Id like to remind everybody who reads this that the last time the US was attacked on such a scale it ended with us nuking people. We may as well have been nuked on 9/11. It did that much damage. No matter what happens to end it, the US will once again come out on top. How it will end wil be hell on earth no matter which way you theorize it. The most likely scenario is that we nuke Iran.

Are you psychologically disturbed? Why in the world would you want to nuke Iran? What has Iran done to you? Wasn't it the U.S. who staged a coup in Iran against its popular nationalist premier and reinstalled a repressive puppet regime his place? Why should you nuke Iran? I don't get it? Unless you're an evil s.. of a &%(#", why would you want to eliminate a peaceful nation which has not done anything to you? Unless you're sick and evil, it doesn't make any sense!

The whole point behind the Iraq war was to get onto Irans doorstep. They are now completely surrounded. With forces in Afghanistan in the north to forces in the south in Iraq.

OK..... But why? Why Iran? What has Iran done that it deserves to be invaded by the U.S.? Just because it dares to critisize the U.S.? Is that a good enough reason to invade it or nuke it? I know the real answer which is that the corrupt, evil, criminal capitalist, zionist crooks of the U.S. want their hands on the energy resources of the Persian Gulf, Caspian Sea, and Central Asia, and Iran is the major regional power in that whole vast area, and the historically dominant power in the region. And Iran is determined to not ever again become dependent on the U.S. for anything, and has succeeded to become a self-reliant and totally independent country ambitiously and successfully working towards becoming the first developed, industrialized and technologically and scientifically advanced nation of that whole region. And this is a pain in the neck for the U.S. and its zionist masters.

You should know though that Iran is referred to as the "Eternal Empire" because it has existed for 3000 years, and survived invasion after invasion. And no other country has resurfaced as many times as a super power and world power as Iran has. Empires come and go, and when they have turned greedy, arrogant and abusive, or when they have attacked one country too many that they fall! The U.S. has gone too far already - The U.S. today is the master of greed, arrogance, abuse (Did you see the 5-year old girl who was hand-cuffed by police? That's abuse - and the U.S. has the guts to admonish other countries about human rights!) The U.S. has bombarded 24 countries after 1945.

If the U.S. or its zionist master Israel so much as touch one inch of Iran's territory, hell will break loose! You don't know what Iran is capable of! Iran is not Afghanistan or Iraq. It took the U.S. more than a month to invade Iraq, but what you have to consider is that Saddam Hussein's military was first exhausted by a devastating 8 year long war with Iran. Then it was immediately after that devastated by the Gulf war ("Desert Storm") Following that there was an embargo imposed on Iraq which lasted for 11 years - The embargo and the control of Iraq by "coalition forces" prevented Iraq from rebuilding its armed forces in any significant way. So the U.S. attacked an extremely weak Iraq in 2003, and yet it took them one whole month to reach baghdad, and the war is continuing today... Iran has an army of 850,000 regular armed forces, 7 million basiij and pasdaran troops, suicide squads, and Iran manufactures its own weapons - tanks, fighter jets, missiles, subs, etc. It would really take a nuke for the U.S. to win a war against Iran. But are you really so arrogant and ignorant to think that the U.S. could get away with that? Have you forgotten that the rest of the world would never accept such an barbaric act - the most criminal, inhuman and barbaric act in all of mankind's history. Do you really think that China, Russia, India, Pakistan, the Muslim World, France, Germany and others would just sit idle and allow something like that?

I think it is the wishful thinking of a sick and evil mind. And I really think you should volounteer to visit a shrink and explain the situation for him/her, and maybe they will persuade you to accept being locked up in some mental institution for the sake of the safety of the public!

The nearly undefeatable US navy covers the east and west. The single largest proprieter of fundamentalist extremist Islam is and has been Iran. We have been fighting an Iranian funded and supplied insurgency. This is no secret.

What a buch of crap!!!!!!!!! The U.S. navy is not undefeatable. It's just that you have so far not engaged in wars with any other countries than the smallest and weakest ones!

Iran is not the proprieter of fundamentalist extremist Islam - Saudi Arabia and Taliban's Afghanistan are, and both of them were supported by the U.S. What Extremist Islam are you talking about in Iran??? Iran is a democracy where the people elect their government - Saudi Arabia doesn't even have an elected parliament. Iran's women are progressive, active particiapants in society. They serve in the military, police, parliament (Iran has more women in the parliament than the U.S. congress does) 63% of all higher education students in Iran are women - Women students are the majority in the medical and engineering fields. Iran has entire fire stations run by only women.

In Saudi Arabia women cannot drive - Iran has some 17 female racer drivers, and about 50% of all drivers in the traffic are women. In Saudi Arabia women cannot vote, in Iran they both can vote and run for political office. In Saudi Arabia women are not allowed to work - In Iran women are seen in large numbers in all professions - Police, military, firemen, engineers, cab drivers, truck drivers, lawyers, etc, etc.....

Saudi Arabia is the extremist fundamentalist Islamic state, not Iran. Iran is one of the most if not the most progressive Islamic nations. It still has some laws that it needs to reform, but compared with most other Muslim nations it has a lot which they don't when it comes to being progressive. So what you say is a bunch of crap! you jsut don't know what you're talking about! You haven't been to Iran or Saudi Arabia, or anywhere close by I suspect! You seem to be one of those brainwashed American zombies glued to the screen watching FOX TV and getting an orgasm all day long from doing so.

My personal view of how it will go down is this.

Sorry, but your "personal view" isn't worth more than the fungus of a foot.


[quotes]Iran continues to fail to meet UN security coucil deadlines one after another.
[/quotes] What UN security deadlines? If it would get to the security council, at least one country would veto it - Iran's closest ally, CHINA! And remember that Iran has not violated any IAEA agreement. Iran has fully complied with all the regulations. According to the nuclear treaty which Iran has signed, Iran has all rights to enrich uranium. It is only if it can be proven that Iran is working towards creating nuclear weapons that the U.S. and Israel will have a case to bring to the security council. No proof or evidence has been presented so far that shows that Iran has any such plans.

The US manages to get actual real physical evidence of a nuclear weapons program.

Yeah, like they did in Iraq, huh?

Millions of Iranian civilians begin the exodus out of Iran into Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq etc. They and the rest of the world know whats coming next.

Where are you from? Some remote area in the Apalachins? Why would millions of Iranians begin an exodus to Afghanistan, Syria, etc....? Iranians didn't leave Iran when they were bombed with thousands of Iraqi scud missiles and the bombs supplied to Saddam Hussein by the U.S. - There will be no exodus of Iranians going anywhere!

More physical evidence of a nuclear weapons program is coraborated with evidence found by other nations intel as well.

Yeah, like in Iraq, right?

The UN gives Iran one last chance and is issued an ultimatum like was issued to Iraq.

Why do you fabricate your own version of history? The UN was not done with Iraq - it never issued a last ultimatum to Iraq. The UN wanted to work with Iraq and opposed the U.S. military action there because they thought that all venues were far from exhausted!

They of course dont comply. US forces in Afghanistan swell to 200.000 and likewise in Iraq.

The U.S. military with some 18,000 troops in Afghanistan, and another 140,000, is already strained and so is the U.S. economy. The U.S. has only 499,000 active duty soldiers, and you want to drag 400,000 of them to the Middle East - Not a very smart move? And who's going to pay for it? With what money? The U.S. risks running bankrupt as it is unless it will rob Iraq dry of its oil, which I'm sure was part of the plan.

All over the course of a month. The mullahs in Iran start some pretty seroius sabre rattling at the now truly multinational forces at their borders. With real evidence an Iranian invasion is a much easier sell. At this point the US has had specops in Iran for a year mapping out targets.

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It comes down to another 48 hour ultimatum issued by Bush. Instead of complying the mullahs make the claim of having nuke armed missiles ready to fire. Having seen this coming for quit a while Bush orders the first wave of airstrikes as soon as the mullahs have finished claiming that they have nukes pointed at everybody and this is before the ultimatum is up.

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Having had specops forces in country for so long the US knows exactly where there secret nuke sites are. B-2 stealth bombers drop the new bunker busting nukes at all suspected nuke facilities destroying them completely. Israeli planes take out the Natanz plant. One very big risk is that Iran has a hidden scud somewhere with a nuke on it pointed at Israel. If it comes down to they only have a couple of nuclear missiles and their backs are to the wall they will launch them at Israel instead of coalition forces. It has been stated many many times that Irans sole purpose is the destruction of Israel and they mean it.

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Wether they nuke Israel or not Tehran falls in less than a month. Damascus shortly thereafter. Seeing that hes last on a very short list Kim Jong Il sends a half a million men screaming through the DMZ. NK opens up on Seoul with over five thousand artillery pieces. Keep in mind that they are using bio chem warheads as first offense weapons. The half million men sent through the DMZ dont make it more than 20 to 50 miles past the DMZ. Its an absolute bloodbath not seen on such a scale since WW2. Nearly all the five thousand plus artillery pieces are vaporized by once again bunker busting nukes dropped by the B-2 Spirit. Possibly US nuclear artillery shells as well. Remaining NK forces attempt to launch their crude nuclear missiles at the rapidly advancing US/South Korean forces which most likely will number around 600,000 combined. At least one NK nuclear missile will go off on/in its launcher/silo? wiping out the NK nuclear threat. What is left of the NK forces retreats into Russia. Some high ranking officers are allowed to escape into China. China will not back NK in case of war. Morally yes but militarily no.

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The NK forces that have retreated into Russia manage to hold territory in one way or another for at least a year. The US repeatedly offers assistance but the Russians are to proud to ask for help and dont want US forces crossing their border. It takes at least six months for the proper Russian forces to assemble and coordinate. The other six months sees the remaning NK forces turned into a peanut butter like substance by Russian forces. In all no less than 2 million people are dead possibly on the Korean peninsula alone. Let alone Iran.

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It will truly take a miracle not to end up without the wholesale annihilation of Iran and North Korea. They have been the two biggest thorns in the side of the world since Nazi Germany and Japan. Not to just the US either. This has all been coming for a very long time. This will all go down over the course of the next 24-36 months. North Korea may very well get some kind of missile(s) through to the US west coast. Russia will become even poorer due to the costs of having to clean out their countrysides of truly mad fight to the death North Koreans. You know, the ones that actually think that Kim Jong Ill invented the car and landed on the moon.

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The war becomes the biggest economical and technological boom ever for the US. The war will see the dawn of the next generation of science fiction like US weaponry that has been rumored for so long. Things like the Aurora plane(s) and the unveiling of SDI which has been operational since 1990. Haarp plays a role in weather modifiactions in favor of coalition troops. The F-22 shows how superior it really is and takes out anything put up against it prompting congress to order hundereds more. The M-8 is now fully fielded in five different interchangable calibers. 9mm,5.56,6.5Grendel,6.8Remington and 7.62 Nato. Of course Im sure some would like to argue. Youre thoughts please. Thank You....

You know what? I was going to respond to your entire post, but you're just too naive and childish - to use a nice word without insulting you. You don't know what the hell you're talking about, so why should I waste my precious time on someone like you......

Good luck and hope you will have some nice wet dreams of a Middle East devastated by nukes..... Lol!!! And then try to get a life when you wake up!

I read alot about how Americas going to walk across the goble kicking ass of all who defy but what makes you think that the reast of the world is going to let this happen do you have enough planes and bombs to hit every country who stands against you. Also if i remember corectly China has a war pack with North Korea so they will have no choice but to fight, the Chinese will not lose face or show weakness.