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Hitler's watch was sold in the USA

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posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 07:17 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Where does it say it is state level ? There are multiple museums and auctions in US which are more often owned by inviduals and groups, in Russia these are usually owned by governments.



Alexander Historical Auctions LLC is a leading auctioneer of fine historic autographs, documents, and photographs, militaria from all conflicts, and important historical relics. Based in Chesapeake City, Maryland, we have been in continuous operation since 1991 providing superior service to consignors and bidders alike.


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posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 07:24 AM
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a reply to: Kenzo

Waste not, want not.

One of my close relatives was actually tasked with repurposing captured German facility so that our army could use them.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 07:31 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Yes, I will say the same to anyone who gets upset about statues or flags, or street names, or any symbol of the past like this.

We give too much power to symbols, and we use them as a stand in for the people who they relate to.

The guy is dead, and thus beyond reach, so people are directing their anger at his watch instead. It's a proxy, and the only reason that it is even noteworthy is because the person who owned it three generations ago is noteworthy.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 07:34 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: alldaylong

Museums preserve historical facts, and the auction sells them.

You don't know the things that every schoolboy in civilized countries knows.


Some museum exhibits can be regarded as " tasteless "

At least these Russian know what is right or wrong.



After 50 years of being locked up in a basement, Hitler’s uniform and boots went on display Friday _ but only after some officials argued they should be treated like old rags.
Some Russians, particularly war veterans, are unhappy about the new exhibit.
``Personally, I don’t think it’s the proper thing to do,″ said Sergei Sorokin, a member of a veteran’s group who entered Berlin in 1945 as a Red Army captain. ``Hitler was our enemy.


apnews.com...



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 07:34 AM
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Sounds desperate if one needs the auction of trinkets to push a narrative.

Because thats what thread is.

Nazi watch sold on US soil , so everyone must be nazi right ?

No where did it state the nationality of the person who purchased the watch

Could even be a Russian.





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edit on 31-7-2022 by TheGreazel because: (no reason given)



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 07:35 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: dollukka

In Russia, public display and sale of Nazi paraphernalia is a criminal offense.


Which isn't something to boast about.

In Russia the state has a state sanctioned version of history. Not all of which is accurate.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 07:35 AM
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originally posted by: TheGreazel
Sounds desperate if one needs the auction of trinkets to push a narrative.

Because thats what thread is.

Nazi watch sold on US soil , so everyone must be nazi right ?

No where did it state the nationality of the person who purchased the watch

Could even be a Russian.




Or maybe this is purely about the money.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 07:44 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Lots of Russians buy and keep Nazi memorabilia....as do people from many countries.

Where does it say anything about this being somehow 'state level', could you clarify please?

The biggest surprise about this is that this piece of 'memorabilia' was sourced in the US considering the huge amounts of Nazi loot, trophies and souvenirs that were taken back to Russia after the end of the war.
Sure, lots of similar items found their way to various countries in 'the West' but Russia really was at the forefront of such things.

Personally I never really thought much wrong with that; Russia suffered a lot at the hands of Nazi Germany, I can understand why people would do that.

I don't understand why you are trying to make an issue out of something that in the grand scheme of things is really trivial.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Weird that the clock at Buchenwald is set to the time, 1515, that the American military liberated the camp then.

If the Red Army liberated the camp prior to the Americans, why didn't they assist the prisoners in any way? Why is there no, as you called it, "scientific historical reference" to your words?



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:29 AM
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a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

Thank you, about the American military who liberated Buchenwald, I laughed for a very long time. This is the third epic "scientific fact" after the "Liberation of Berlin by American troops" and the victory of the Americans in the Battle of Gaugamela.
Continue to delight us with your "historical facts".))))))
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posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:33 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

You didn't answer the simple questions. This is a recurring theme in your posts. Here they are again, in the event that you somehow missed them.



If the Red Army liberated the camp prior to the Americans, why didn't they assist the prisoners in any way? Why is there no, as you called it, "scientific historical reference" to your words?



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:34 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Wasn't it the Russians who first came upon AH's bunker and body?
Wouldn't that mean Russians owned the watch first.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:39 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Here is the story of another Hitler watch.

Il était une fois la montre perdue d’Adolf Hitler

I doubt that Hitler always carried all his watches with him.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:44 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: IAMTAT



I doubt that Hitler always carried all his watches with him.


You must know how weak your argument sounds.
Men keep their favorite watches with them.
I, myself, still have all my favorite timepieces with me.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:47 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Hitler probably had a lot of watches, and only carried the ones that matched whatever outfit he was going to wear,



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: RussianTroll

Worth adding on with an additional reply instead of an edit.

I used Yandex for your benefit. These were on the first page of results.


On April 13, 1945, American troops freed the surviving prisoners. History has preserved the words of the commander-in-chief: "Nothing has ever shocked me like this spectacle." The event was preceded by an uprising of prisoners who managed to seize control from the SS.


Buchenwald


When the Americans reach Buchenwald and its subcamps in April 1945, the supreme commander of the Allied Forces, Dwight D. Eisenhower, writes: "Nothing has ever shocked me as much as that sight."


Buchenwald Concentration Camp, 1937–1945


April 11, 1945
American forces liberate Buchenwald camp
US forces liberate the Buchenwald concentration camp near Weimar, Germany, in April 1945, a few days after the Nazis began evacuating the camp. On the day of liberation, an underground prisoner resistance organization seizes control of Buchenwald to prevent atrocities by the retreating camp guards. American forces liberate more than 20,000 prisoners at Buchenwald.


Holocaust Encyclopedia - LIBERATION

I hope these are "scientific historical reference" for you. Where are yours?

Also, back on topic, Hitler was not known to wear a wrist watch, as already ignored. In addition to that, there here is some more "scientific historical reference" of Hitler using a watch.


Hitler was known to wear a gold-cased pocket watch of unknown origin. He seldom consulted it, as he was constantly surrounded by men who were more than willing to tell him the time.

Click here and look at this clip. It’s the only known image of Hitler consulting a watch. He pulls it from his top pocket.

Note the embarrassment of the officer talking to Hitler; the subaltern is unable to reach for his wristwatch quickly enough to tell his Führer the time. The Swastika-wearing follower to Hitler’s right also automatically consults his watch.


Where is Hitler’s Watch?



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 08:58 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

And why did you decide that this watch was Hitler's favorite.
His corpse was burned beyond recognition. It is unlikely that the watch would have remained intact if it had been with him.



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 09:03 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: IAMTAT

And why did you decide that this watch was Hitler's favorite.
His corpse was burned beyond recognition. It is unlikely that the watch would have remained intact if it had been with him.


His bunker didn't contain his and Eva Braun's personal belongings?



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 09:06 AM
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originally posted by: RussianTroll
a reply to: IAMTAT

And why did you decide that this watch was Hitler's favorite.


And why did you decide that this watch was NOT one of Hitler's favorite?



posted on Jul, 31 2022 @ 09:08 AM
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a reply to: IAMTAT

Or maybe this watch was in one of his residences?




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