In Defense Of God

a reply to: Peeple

How does that answer my question?
Are you afraid to have a normal conversation with me?

Cheese and rice and lady it's not a trick question.

I'll even keep it on the first page for you.

K so Jesus died they put him in a grave. How do you know that?

Or if you like just say pass.

a reply to: Randyvine2

That

Right everything about the story is true but the realistic parts. Is that your position?

is my answer.
It means the only part that is probably true about Jesus is he died a horrible death. So I was asking if that is really the position you want to take?
Flabbergasted as #

a reply to: Peeple

It means the only part that is probably true about Jesus is he died a horrible death.

Part of what? How do you know Jesus died a horrible death? Don't answer with a question.

Sweet lady you are so stubborn lol just give me an answer so we can move on please?

Mat 10:34

and not just any sword, it's a double-edged sword which comes from his mouth and cuts both ways.

a reply to: Raggedyman

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Randyvine2

but he left behind a pretty large group and a power void

Both the Romans and the Jews wanted to kill Christians. Having the state and religious leaders at the time vehemently against the beginning of your movement is the opposite of a power void.

They wouldn't continue speaking about Christ if it was a lie they made up, because their only reward was inevitable martyrdom. Now of they truly believed what they saw, then it makes sense they would martyr.

No need to do all the fluffy man-made rules, but in the end know Christ is real

a reply to: Randyvine2

That's not a question.
Story. Part of the story about Jesus.

a reply to: cooperton

Or they grew up with a story about the ultimate martyr and wanted to be 'immortal' as he is.
Because none of them saw Jesus after his death. In a dream maybe. But that's the utmost extent.
They claimed they did because one of the witnesses started it and the others had to jump on to avoid becoming irrelevant.
And my problem is not only with Jesus, but also with the greater messianic religious meme.
Christians just took it that one step too far when they declared an agent of God, for the 'god'.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Randyvine2

That's not a question.
Story. Part of the story about Jesus.

The answer is you don't know anything in regards to the story
of Yeshua Jesus Christ. And how did you come to believe only
that part of the story?

And why would who ever penned the part of the story you choose
to believe (Cherry pick)?

Why would the author take the story from such believable
mundane events as you perceive them.

(Jesus died a horrible death)

How does the author writing a story he wants you to believe.
Suddenly just take the whole story off in to the weeds
And start 4Xing the story in the most unbelievable way? A way
he knows full well people are going to read slowly raising an
eye brow. As it suddenly takes the reader over rocks and bushes
and unlevel terrain to what ultimately gets described? And he
wants you to believe it?

See it doesn't surprise anyone that you look at the story and say
this is believable and that's not. But what's recorded there in, is
far more complicated than that. The Bible exists because God
got involved. And when God gets involved you gotta be ready
to go off road.

Thanks for answering my question and being a great OP.

a reply to: cooperton

No one would die for a lie.
And no one would tell a story that way and expect it
to be believed. Unless it was the truth.

a reply to: Randyvine2

It's a huge part of the story, they made it the symbol of their religion, the crucifixation Jesus on the cross, have you ever seen that?
God didn't get involved. He let the Romans win.

a reply to: Peeple

He let the Romans win.

How do you know?

a reply to: Randyvine2

Jesus died on the cross. That's how I know.
The Roman state institutionalised Christianity. Everything you think you know was edited and decided by Romans.
That's how I know.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Randyvine2

Well Jesus died they put ihm in a grave. Nothing he promised had come true, but he left behind a pretty large group and a power void, in order to fill it they told the story how he had come to them and that it wasn't over yet.
The proof is in my opinion in the story itself. And the fact that 2000 years later people are still waiting and it just ain't happening.

At some point if you make It to the tribulation period you will see things that will change your mind

For your sake let's hope we are the end time generation.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Hoping for the end time... the mind boggles.
You know Jesus wasn't the first or last messiah? None of them delivered.

a reply to: Peeple

You see God loves you so much that He doesn't want heaven without you.

That's why so many will get a second chance....and why Jesus is taking his time....

Yes I hope hope for this world to end in the way it exists now.....

But for the believer it is not the end......it's redemption and a new beginning in a new body

Yes I am looking forward to this....

Also it'll be a happy day here and in heaven the day you turn to Christ ❤

a reply to: GoShredAK

Moloch will appreciate your sacrifice.

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: GoShredAK

Moloch will appreciate your sacrifice.

No, this moloch will have great trouble getting to me here where my spirit dwells, under the shadow of God's wings, in the secret place of the Most High......

Nothing will benefit from my translation except for Me no sacrifice.

then through this Armor of God where underneath my helmet of Salvation on my forehead is the seal of God.........

which is the name of the Most High which no devils can break.

That's multi layers of protection backed by angels and the favor of God......

All free gifts available to everybody

This is what I was shown once in a vision that lasted 20 minutes earth time but felt like ages.

Planet Earth is a special place created for our body, soul and spirit. We, which are eternal, agree to be born here without the knowledge of God for His purpose and ours. God wants to see if our soul, through free will, is good and fruitful or bad and demonic. Non-believers are just going along with the program not knowing about God and doing whatever their hearts desire. Just like Lucifer, now satan, deciding he will do whatever his heart desired, exalted himself as good or better than (YHWH) God.

God did not show mercy to Lucifer and to 1/3 of the Angles, now called demons, that followed satan, whom He cast all down to earth first, then to the Lake of Fire at Judgement day. God came in the flesh, Jesus, so we can be united as our Brother and Sister so He would be familiar with mankind, unlike His Angels, If you can humble yourself towards God and His Word and accept the free salvation that He provides in His Son, Jesus Christ, within your heart, God the Father will accept you into His realm (Heaven). If not, then you are as useful as the Demons He sent to the Lake of Fire.

Take this as just 1 of many puzzle pieces that make up the unseen dimensions and worlds around us.

a reply to: GoShredAK

Right, because for the believer it's not the end, # the rest. The majority.
I couldn't think of a scenario where hoping and praying for the eternal deletion of friends, family, coworker, the mail lady, ... would be considered as anything other than a slaughter festival. How is that good? How does wanting this make you superior to every other butcher?

a reply to: Peeple

Everything I think I know is nothing.

But I do believe