Where's coverage this. Russian and Chinese Navy ships and subs surround Japan in joint exercise

Title: Where's the coverage of this. Russian and Chinese Navy ships and subs surround Japan in joint exercise

Maybe this isn't being covered so much, but a little known thing is this... Biden is NOT in charge of the military any longer after the Afghan failure.
Why am I saying this? The US military is now sending I think 8 drones to Japan today along with 200 service men to service the planes. The service men have arrived yesterday. The location is at a Japanese military base. This is the first time that I know of that the Japanese have allow US military to be stationed on their bases here and the locals here are pissed off about this situation.

But the above was for info only, the thread is about this.

1. Japan went on high alert earlier this week after numerous warships spotted south of Tokyo indicated an increased presence of Russian and Chinese forces near the country's territory.

2. China-Russia military cooperation a concern, ministry says of Japan.

3. Japan has started to explore the deployment of U.S. military drones to a southwestern base to increase the allies' eyes in the sky in the region, Defense Minister Nobuo Kishi said Friday.

American MQ-9 drones would be stationed at the Maritime Self-Defense Force's Kanoya Air Base in Kagoshima Prefecture on a temporary basis, Kishi told reporters.

Also note and the US has these also. The Japanese Navy are dropping sensitive sub sounding devices into the ocean that WILL pick up sub noises. It is now known that the Chinese and Russians have subs in the area.

Yesterdays report was that Russia (maybe I got this wrong ) ships were following the Chinese ships and are 11 days behind their path.

Question is this... Japan said they will help Taiwan if China invades. Looks like Japan may have 2nd thoughts.

Too bad we have the US military in charge now of the WH instead of a competent CinC in the Oval Office.

Is war on the horizon?

Maybe, too much tension now here on Japanese military bases. American bases here, sorry I don't know.

Knowing this administration, I am not surprised at all of this. Nope, not at all.

a reply to: musicismagic

According to Wiki-

June 5, 2022 - As of 2013, there are approximately 50,000 U.S. military personnel stationed in Japan, along with approximately 40,000 dependents of military personnel and another 5,500 American civilians employed there by the United States Department of Defense.
Under the Treaty of Mutual Cooperation and Security between the United States and Japan, the United States is obliged to provide Japan in close cooperation with the Japan Self-Defense Forces, with maritime defense, ballistic missile defense, domestic air control, communications security, and disaster response.

There still seems to be a heavy US presence.

Okinawa residents have spent decades protesting the constant presence of the U.S. military in their daily lives. There are now 31 U.S. military installations on the island prefecture of Okinawa, which accounts for 70 percent of all U.S. military bases in Japan.

[thediplomat.com...]

In the spirit of conspiracy, many long-time politicians are stepping down and fading into the sunset. Perhaps it's time to watch where they go, and who joins them?

If nuclear war breaks out, the planet will be plunged into a nuclear winter. You'd need access to an underground base if you hoped to survive. The seed bank is fully stocked and waiting for sunnier days.

From what you have said, it is also possible that Russia is warning China by following the Chinese Navy around.

World affairs are changing and we will not be the first to know what those changes mean.

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a reply to: pheonix358

From what you have said, it is also possible that Russia is warning China by following the Chinese Navy around

nah their just tagging along so they can get a tow back when they brake down.

a reply to: musicismagic

All of the US military forces stationed in Japan are stationed on Japanese bases.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: musicismagic

All of the US military forces stationed in Japan are stationed on Japanese bases.

So all American bases there are NOW considered Japanese bases. I was stationed at Kadena and Yokota and at the time Japanese were allowed to work on base but there were NO Japanese MP's on those bases at the entry way.

Like I mentioned I didn't know Americans can be stationed on Japanese bases and I don't live far from the Japanese Air Base in Yamaguchi.
Learn something new everyday on ATS.

Thanks for telling me.

What happened last time?

www.cnn.com...

Russian Defense Ministry/Reuters
Hong Kong
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A joint Chinese and Russian naval exercise, in which a flotilla of 10 warships completed a near circle around Japan’s main island, has been touted by the two countries as a means of ensuring stability in a volatile region.

But analysts say the drills are likely to have the opposite effect, potentially reigniting regional tensions and enhancing claims by the Japanese government that it needs to increase military spending to counter Chinese aggression.

The voyage, billed as the first joint China-Russia naval patrol in the western Pacific, saw the vessels sail through the Tsugaru Strait that separates Japan’s main island and its northern island of Hokkaido, before heading down the nation’s eastern coast and then back toward China through the Osumi Strait off the southern Japanese island of Kyushu.

a reply to: putnam6

Japan has no warship that can counter the monstrous Type 055 destroyers which are the biggest and most capable warships in the Pacific other than aircraft carriers.

a reply to: BernnieJGato


(Lada) dee (Lada) dah.

originally posted by: yongpengsuntastaufen
a reply to: putnam6

Japan has no warship that can counter the monstrous Type 055 destroyers which are the biggest and most capable warships in the Pacific other than aircraft carriers.

So what, do you really think this is the opening gambit on amove on Japan or Taiwan for that matter? If that's the case we are already out of position as we are sending everything but the kitchen sink to Ukraine

Are they blockaded Japan from shipping commerce? and again what happened in October when they basically did the same thing.

Besides you can't throw billions in Russia's backyard and expect them to not sell out to get the Chinese on their side, which isn't difficult when our Speaker threatens to go to Taiwan over and over. Geo politics and all, let Russia and China do this
more than anything they want to provoke a response. As well it wasn't that long ago when the US and South Korea and the US and Japan held joint exercises.

Putting the Japanese on high alert is not something to take lightly either.

originally posted by: musicismagic

1. Japan went on high alert earlier this week after numerous warships spotted south of Tokyo indicated an increased presence of Russian and Chinese forces near the country's territory.

I would like to know some details of this.

There is no information on the website of the Russian Ministry of Defense about any actions of large groups of ships of the Navy.

originally posted by: yongpengsuntastaufen
a reply to: putnam6

Of course, Kurils is red line for China. If Japan invades Kurils then China goes to war. The humiliation of Nanjing massacre is something Chinese will not forget for a thousand years. That is not to say Japan is in any shape capable of carrying out an invasion. Japan has a shrinking and aging population which is not fit for combat. Not to mention Chinese outnumber Japanese more than 10 to 1.

Now isn't the time to channel the famous Japanese expansionist aspirations

and why exactly would Japan invade the Kurils now? Especially since Russia has held those since 1945, FWIW Japan is lucky they didn't have to deal with what Germany had to do.

China's misfortune is that they have not yet understood there is a difference between floating warships and having a blue water navy.

A big difference.

Cheers

originally posted by: musicismagic
Putting the Japanese on high alert is not something to take lightly either.

I can't find anywhere that says Japan is on high alert these 3 sites are usually on top of it

www.oslint.org.../asia-news-alerts-intel-releases/

www.defconlevel.com...

twitter.com...

Don't you find it ironic, that Japan started bitching right after Russia invaded Ukraine? It's pretty obvious since Russia used the Ukraine used to be our territory, either Japan decided by itself or was prodded by America. don't you also find it ironic that Japanese corporations are still participating in the Russian Sakhalin-2 project?

BTW what were Shinto Abe's thoughts on the Kurils

asiatimes.com...

Russia-Japan tensions flare anew over the Kurils
Some in Moscow believe the US is pressing Japan to more firmly assert its claim to the long-contested strategic islands

Formally, Russia is not at war with Ukraine, where it claims to be conducting a so-called “special military operation.” But with Japan, given that Moscow and Tokyo never signed a peace treaty officially ending World War II, the two Asian neighbors remain technically at war.

And after Japan recently described four Kuril islands whose ownership it disputes with Moscow as “illegally occupied by Russia”, old tensions are building anew in the Pacific region.

Ever since the Soviet Union conquered the Kuril Islands in 1945, the ownership of Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan Islands and the Habomai Islands has been challenged by Tokyo.

The chain of some 50 volcanic islands, stretching between the northern Japanese island of Hokkaido at the southern end and the Russian Kamchatka Peninsula in the north, has been an integral part of Russia since 1945 but Japan still sees them as its Northern Territories.

At the same time, Japanese corporations Mitsui and Mitsubishi have announced plans to continue participating in the Russian Sakhalin-2 project – an integrated oil and gas development business whose four investors are Mitsubishi Corporation, Russian state-owned gas company Gazprom, Shell and Mitsui & Co.