Immortality is it true?

Ummm, wouldn't a Masonic heaven be a men only heaven?

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

Actually, women are allowed into some lodges, although I think it happens mostly in the UK. The highest Freemason that I am aware of, is a woman, the Queen of England.

I'm a Rosicrucian, which is similar to Freemasonry, but focuses more on mystical realities and knowledge. We not only allow women, but we have a pretty even mix if men and women. We owe no direct allegiance to any leader of any government. We consider ourselves citizens of the world (not to be confused by globalist), although currently, I have no desire to step foot out of Florida.

Oh, and heaven is such a limited view of an afterlife. It also neglects the possibility of being able to come back and live more lives as other people.

a reply to: IndieA

Admitedly, I was seeing if AugustusMasonicus would bite.

Interestingly I wasn't aware that women were Masons. I had heard that women were demanding entry on an equal opportunity thing. Surely the Q of E is figure only? I'm not a Mason, but find it difficult to understand how a woman would fit the masonic men only mysteries. I would think there is probably a very sensible reason why women are excluded.

I'm a Rosicrucian, which is similar to Freemasonry, but focuses more on mystical realities and knowledge.

The Rosicrucians I know.

Out of curiosity I've 'watched' a Masonic Lodge here in Australia. I would stand across the street. There is a nice green round glow from a point somewhere inside. The lodge doesn't seem to be used physically anymore, yet the deceased(?) and sleepers(?) still go there. I can't tell the dead from sleepers, both look the same to me.

Masons generally leave me alone, I like that in them.

Oh, and heaven is such a limited view of an afterlife. It also neglects the possibility of being able to come back and live more lives as other people.

Some folks like their limited view, the safe places. Desires will eventually bring some of them back into incarnation. One must realise though that some of them commited such crimes in the name of god while alive that they are too frightened to incarnate.

a reply to: NobodySpecial268

What are sleepers? Dead? Am I missing a nuance here???

..... is this a Democrat county?🤣

a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

What are sleepers? Dead? Am I missing a nuance here???

Sorry : (

I was refering to the unseen folks who still attend that Lodge on a regular basis.

"Dead" means deceased folks.
"Sleepers" means living people who are asleep at the time.

I think the term "astral travelers' might be a way of saying it. Dreamers would be more accurate.

originally posted by: NobodySpecial268
Admitedly, I was seeing if AugustusMasonicus would bite.

I posted the actual ritual.

Pretty much everything the non-Masons have posted is incorrect on all accounts.

originally posted by: Substracto
Do psychedelic drugs and find out.

Not all psychedelic drugs are the same. Some take you to a hellish dark dangerous realm that only the experienced psychonaut should explore. Others flood you with knowledge and enlightenment, which for the intellectually/emotionally constipated can also be very dangerous. Most are recreational tantric exploratory experiences, that also are very dangerous for the intellectually and emotionally constipated.

For anyone opening the doors of perception; be armed with the shield of knowledge/experience and sword of faith. Buy the ticket, take the ride....

Lick the frog if you got the guts. This isn't a metaphor....it's illegal in OZ!!

originally posted by: NobodySpecial268
a reply to: ManBehindTheMask

What are sleepers? Dead? Am I missing a nuance here???

Sorry : (

I was refering to the unseen folks who still attend that Lodge on a regular basis.

"Dead" means deceased folks.
"Sleepers" means living people who are asleep at the time.

I think the term "astral travelers' might be a way of saying it. Dreamers would be more accurate.

I knew what you were talking about, although I had never heard back the term sleepers used, I got the point and figured that you were an astra traveler.

I'm under the impression that some of my super vivid dreams are travels.

I once had a super vivid dream of an elite occult ceremony in which very graphic and unspeakable things occurred.

I've also had several dreams of traveling about 1,000 miles to my future home, well before I moved here or even visited. When I finally saw this place in real life, it was startling how accurate the details in my dream were. The only explanation, outside of the mystical, I could come up with is that maybe memories from my mom or her parents visiting this place were passed down to me similarly to how elephants transfer memories.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Since you just said that:
I would be curious if you Masons also still have documented somewhere somehow why you do the things you do? What makes you think you guys got it right? And aren't just preserving the traditions of the mysteries? I mean as far as I can tell your stuff is just as outdated as every other spiritual school and religion.
I mean I don't know if it's true but I heard the aim of freemasonry once was to create a better world, right? Capable men helping eachother to change society from the inside. How do current events make you feel?
Or have you been infiltrated by revelation-fanatics and those weird Christian fraternity folks like The Family?
Also how do you guys interact with other 'secret-ish' societies and fraternities? Is there something like a club-apalooza where all those groups meet for a stack-exchange how your stuff works?
Don't you think it's kind of mean with the sub-masonic groups like Propaganda Due that they basically made it public knowledge these clubs exist and you originals are the ones that got screwed while those actually doing the shady-networking still remain hidden and unknown?

...you know since we're talking, would be nice if you could answer those few questions.

originally posted by: Peeple
I would be curious if you Masons also still have documented somewhere somehow why you do the things you do? What makes you think you guys got it right?

It's documented in the ritual which is close to 400 years old and we don't think we have anything right, it's not about that.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: NorthOfStuff

I can't seem to find a ritual, unless this is what you speak of.

a reply to: IndieA

That's directly out of my ritual cipher.

a reply to: Peeple

Augustus and I belong to different fraternities, tend to not get along, and frequently disagree.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus
a reply to: IndieA

That's directly out of my ritual cipher.

Oh, when you said you posted the ritual, I assumed you meant the whole thing.

a reply to: olaru12

Bamm! Dude you're on fire
Tantric experience you say... Dude not saying you know, but I was thinking about how Crowley got his weird SM # from tantric experience?
I couldn't find an answer, so I'm putting it out there maybe someone knows.
Because I think I had a tantric experience once he in UK, I'm home and take a bath and he was on my mind you know in a girly 'oh he's so awesome, he's the best, he's king of the world' and I was doing some experiments at the time I was so intuned with the world* and I felt him thinking about me and had an orgasm without any physical stimulation.
How did that nutjob Crowley go from that mind-meld Tantra should be to what he did?

*It was a very fun time. In the morning I could hear the cats come down from the forest to the house, I walked to the telephone before it rang and a lot more mostly without any drugs at all, a tiny bit 420 because I was in such a hyper alert state I had to calm a little.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

And you don't want to answer the others?
How about a quick statement of intention? Of the Club not you.

originally posted by: IndieA
Oh, when you said you posted the ritual, I assumed you meant the whole thing.

That's the relevant part to the discussion. There's another paragraph or two but it's in actual cipher which I won't post.

originally posted by: Peeple
How about a quick statement of intention? Of the Club not you.

The motto is 'making good men better'. I think it's pretty self explanatory.

originally posted by: eitea
Take freemasonry lodges as little different religious cults. Their general narrative is very similar with similar rituals, but they all have their little quirky differences and their own leaders who tell others what is what.
The main attraction of freemasonry is about being part of "the elite" and knowing something "that others don't know". That is how people are enticed into cults where they are blinded by their desires to be better then other people. Money is a big part in freemasonry that will determine who is more and who is less "elite". So, lodges with less wealth tend to obey to richer lodges and this can make one assume that there is some global rigid organizational structure. Same is with lodges that have members with better imagination and who can come up with more intriguing narratives that entice people better. I don't think so that promising immortality would be the best to entice people. Generally freemasonry is based on classical mysticism that every cult uses, where members are enticed by their curiosity and the need to feel important and are put to work for people who know the game better

what level are you and when did you join?

originally posted by: network dude
what level are you and when did you join?

Cut that **** out, Porch Mason.