God forbid.

There were religions God condemned. Not all religions are to the benefit of mankind. Were they conspiring? Probably not, they were just bad in their own way with wrong values like child sacrifices and what not!

I think these religions are unknown nowadays, hidden, unmentioned or underground. A religion that needs to remain secret cannot be to the benefit of mankind. We humans need to be happy and free.

Conspiracies in religions mostly have origin in the fantasies of man. Bluntly, made up or satire of something unreal based on delusion in fantasies.

Lies are being spread, misinformations, deceptions. Do not contribute, they yell! You won't burn in hell though, cause it is a place that doesn't exist. What's the use of it all?

Really, what of it is real!? Whatever which conspires cannot be of a religion approved by the wise of the land.

Talking about these suspicious religions.. Do religions really have to have a god? They just need an object of worship, it can even be a fool! They don't teach what is right, nor what is wrong. They do not work with your true nature. Everybody is unique but that is neglected, personal growth is not achieved. You need to follow the herd like a blind wolf left over to your wolf nature. It's only turning a blind eye.

a reply to: Untun

Didn't your god sacrifice its child?

Double standards - who could have predicted that?

originally posted by: TerraLiga
a reply to: Untun

Didn't your god sacrifice its child?

Double standards - who could have predicted that?

If the one and only creator sacrificed its child and it's my god then it's your god too!

Correct: "hell" is a 404. Beginning with "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." No mention of the creation of "hell" here. Finishing with the Lake of Fire, which even the KJV fails to ID as "hell."

I did manage to find "Hel" in pagan Norse mythology - she was a goddess/ogress who was thought to rule over her afterlife realm of "Helheim" or "House of Hel." It was thought to be the place you went after death if you did not rate going to Valhalla.

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Correct: "hell" is a 404. Beginning with "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth." No mention of the creation of "hell" here. Finishing with the Lake of Fire, which even the KJV fails to ID as "hell."

I did manage to find "Hel" in pagan Norse mythology - she was a goddess/ogress who was thought to rule over her afterlife realm of "Helheim" or "House of Hel." It was thought to be the place you went after death if you did not rate going to Valhalla.

If you're trying to defend what is written in the Bible about hell you should check on the words of Jesus referring to it in it.

a reply to: Untun

Do religions really have to have a god?

No and God doesn't have to have a religion.


“Don’t fear those who kill the body,” Jesus said, “rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell” (Matt 10:28; see also 5:29-30; 23:15,33; Luke

Bad translations (such as the KJV) put the wrong words in the mouth of Jesus - for instance the mentions He "made" about hell translated from Gehenna, really referred to the town dump of Jerusalem, a place you can still visit today...hardly a place of eternal conscious torment. If you like, I can play "hell isn't real" ping-pong all day.

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Bad translations (such as the KJV) put the wrong words in the mouth of Jesus - for instance the mentions He "made" about hell translated from Gehenna, really referred to the town dump of Jerusalem, a place you can still visit today...hardly a place of eternal conscious torment. If you like, I can play "hell isn't real" ping-pong all day.

I'll spare you the struggle, I don't play ping-pong.

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Untun

Do religions really have to have a god?

No and God doesn't have to have a religion.

Obviously, God is alknowing and doesn't need to be taught anything.

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Bad translations (such as the KJV) put the wrong words in the mouth of Jesus - for instance the mentions He "made" about hell translated from Gehenna, really referred to the town dump of Jerusalem, a place you can still visit today...hardly a place of eternal conscious torment. If you like, I can play "hell isn't real" ping-pong all day.

I'll spare you the struggle, I don't play ping-pong.

Luke 16;14-31 The Rich Man And Lazarus

a reply to: Untun

" Religion Is The Opiate Of The Masses "

Karl Marx


" Belief in a Supreme Being ( God ) is a Distinct Individual Personal Experience "

The Homeless Guy Living in a Cardboard Box Behind a McDonalds Restaurant in Boise Idaho

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Untun

" Religion Is The Opiate Of The Masses "

Karl Marx


" Belief in a Supreme Being ( God ) is a Distinct Individual Personal Experience "

The Homeless Guy Living in a Cardboard Box Behind a McDonalds Restaurant in Boise Idaho

Marx is saying that religion's purpose is to create illusory fantasies for the poor.

There is this supernatural deity here and most places, which has grown to religion like thing phenomenon.


Statism: The Most Dangerous Religion (feat. Larken Rose)


Not my religion...i am disgusted about it. Hence they can label me as the enemy of this religion. ( here`s my midle finger) The newest incarnation of this religion will be WEF / New World Order at least here in the West. Oh and the child sacrify things are allready going on as we speak, as are adults also. They just inject those lethal needles , and say they are from the goverment ,and helping us ....

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Bad translations (such as the KJV) put the wrong words in the mouth of Jesus - for instance the mentions He "made" about hell translated from Gehenna, really referred to the town dump of Jerusalem, a place you can still visit today...hardly a place of eternal conscious torment. If you like, I can play "hell isn't real" ping-pong all day.

I'll spare you the struggle, I don't play ping-pong.

Luke 16;14-31 The Rich Man And Lazarus

Sometimes, it's bad interpretation. In this case, it's all about the nation of Judah (Rich Man) and the nations around it (Lazarus )...and their eventual fates. We know the rich man is Judah because the man Judah had five brothers, but there are other clues as well. A parable is hardly the solid rock to found doctrine on, and I have yet to find solid rock of any kind for the "hell" doctrine. Yes, I have tried. Hell is still a 404.

originally posted by: Lazarus Short

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Bad translations (such as the KJV) put the wrong words in the mouth of Jesus - for instance the mentions He "made" about hell translated from Gehenna, really referred to the town dump of Jerusalem, a place you can still visit today...hardly a place of eternal conscious torment. If you like, I can play "hell isn't real" ping-pong all day.

I'll spare you the struggle, I don't play ping-pong.

Luke 16;14-31 The Rich Man And Lazarus

Sometimes, it's bad interpretation. In this case, it's all about the nation of Judah (Rich Man) and the nations around it (Lazarus )...and their eventual fates. We know the rich man is Judah because the man Judah had five brothers, but there are other clues as well. A parable is hardly the solid rock to found doctrine on, and I have yet to find solid rock of any kind for the "hell" doctrine. Yes, I have tried. Hell is still a 404.

Ok, but they seem to die and go to places, a place where it's good and a place of torment.

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Lazarus Short

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Bad translations (such as the KJV) put the wrong words in the mouth of Jesus - for instance the mentions He "made" about hell translated from Gehenna, really referred to the town dump of Jerusalem, a place you can still visit today...hardly a place of eternal conscious torment. If you like, I can play "hell isn't real" ping-pong all day.

I'll spare you the struggle, I don't play ping-pong.

Luke 16;14-31 The Rich Man And Lazarus

Sometimes, it's bad interpretation. In this case, it's all about the nation of Judah (Rich Man) and the nations around it (Lazarus )...and their eventual fates. We know the rich man is Judah because the man Judah had five brothers, but there are other clues as well. A parable is hardly the solid rock to found doctrine on, and I have yet to find solid rock of any kind for the "hell" doctrine. Yes, I have tried. Hell is still a 404.

Ok, but they seem to die and go to places, a place where it's good and a place of torment.

Yes, they did - the gentiles/nations/Lazarus received the blessings of the Good News. The Rich Man/Judah on the other hand, got Jerusalem in 70 AD, which Jesus the Christ would have saved them from...but they were not willing. Really, is a parable the best "proof" of "hell" you can come up with?

originally posted by: Lazarus Short
Really, is a parable the best "proof" of "hell" you can come up with?

I don't see the problem.

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Untun

Do religions really have to have a god?

No and God doesn't have to have a religion.

Obviously, God is alknowing and doesn't need to be taught anything.

Yeah, like he knew were Adam was hiding in the Garden of Eden...oh, wait a minute...

originally posted by: fromtheskydown

originally posted by: Untun

originally posted by: Randyvine2
a reply to: Untun

Do religions really have to have a god?

No and God doesn't have to have a religion.

Obviously, God is alknowing and doesn't need to be taught anything.

Yeah, like he knew were Adam was hiding in the Garden of Eden...oh, wait a minute...

Are you saying he didn't know? I can know where you are and still ask where you are. Just because you ask doesn't mean you don't know. You guys act so ignorant when you try and make fun of God.

Let's say you have a child named Betsy and it ate all the chocolate you said it wasn't allowed to. You know she's behind the closet, you say, hi Betsy, where are you? and she is instantly remined about the chocolate and will either lie it all off, but she will know she did wrong. Ofcourse from eating chocolate you will not die.