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carewemust
Since elections began, EVERY election has had irregularities of one kind or another. In most elections after all is done those irregularities are
corrected at the state level and done quietly, so as not to destroy confidence in the election process. Remember the 'hanging chads' during
Bush/Gore? Did we see those happen this election" No, that irregularity was fixed, as most are.
In this election, Trump, long before the first ballot was ever cast, declared that 'The only way Democrats can win is if they rig the election" and
he repeated this lie at every rally until it became the mantra that erupted into a
juggernaut of rage on January 6, 2021. The question one
must ask is why Trump did this? No prior candidate in history ever accused the opposition of rigging the election before the first ballot was cast,
not that I can recall, and my memory goes back to Nixon/JFK election.
What Trump did was hype those irregularities, knowing that his base is gullible as hell, to say 'see, I told you so' without any evidence. His base
with then take these irregularities, the kind of which are common to all elections, as 'proof' that Democrats stole the election. Yes, folks, this is
the big lie and he is still telling in and many of you are still believing it.
He and his surrogates sought redress in over 60 court cases, and in all but one, he lost. Many of those judges were conservative judges and a number
of them were appointed by Trump. Every time Trump hollers that the judges are democrats, you'd think that if being a party member affected how one
judges, that some of those republican chosen judges would rule along the party line, as well. Apparently all judges, liberals and conservatives
alike, don't give a damn about politics, and just go by the evidence, but don't tell that to Donald Trump.
Now, if any one had evidence, including Mike Lindell, you'd think they would produce it.
But, alas, no evidence has ever been produced.
Only allegations, and allegations are not evidence. Evidence occurs when it survives cross examination in a court of law and a competent attorney
persuades a Jury of the facts.
This has never happened. And there is only one reason, no evidence exists that proves Trump's allegation that 'Democrats Stole The Election".
None. Allegations are not evidence. Affidavits are not evidence.
Mike Lindell never produced one iota of evidence (but he did sell a lot of stuff during his 'symposiums' ).
Trump never produced one iota of evidence.
Raffensperger said there was no evidence.
Barr said there was no evidence.
Former Trump campaign manager Bill Stepien said there was no evidence.
Ivanka Trump said there was no evidence.
Former acting deputy attorney general Richard Donoghue said there was no evidence
Trump campaign data expert Matt Oczkowski said there was no evidence.
Trump campaign lawyer Alex Cannon said there was no evidence.
Trump counselor Kellyanne Conway said there was no evidence ( a staunch Trump defendere, if there ever were one)
There is no evidence supporting the charges against Dominion, and they are suing for defamation.
No one on this forum or any forum has dever produced evidence. If so, let's see it.
Oh they might think they have, but when it is subject to forensic scrutiny, in a court of law, it never survives.
As to the argument, 'the courts never allowed evidence, they shot it down on standing'. Some courts tossed the suit on standing, some looked at the
evidence and tossed it out for not actually being evidence. You'd think that if Trump has something strong, out of 60 or so lawsuits he'd have won
more than one, and he just didn't, and the one he won on was a minor thing. As tor the lack of standing , why is Trump hiring incompetent lawyers
who don't know how to file a case in the proper court?
Writ large, apparently many on the right do not have a clue what actually constitutes evidence. That's what it seems like, to me.
I'm not talking about irregularities, there are plenty of those and none of them changed the outcome of the election and none of them prove that
'Democrats stole the election" almost all of them are innocent mistakes of one kind or another. yes there have been a few cases of fraud, only a
handful, and a number of them were by republicans.
So, if you have evidence, let's see it.
You might think it is evidence, but I doubt it will survive forensic scrutiny by experts.
And, if you really think you have evidence, the time to do something about it is right after the election, not two years later.
Oh, there will be accountability, a Grand Jury is asking key Trump personnel some tough questions, Cipollone, et al, are soon to testify.
Oh, and Trump was instructed to not communicate with Meadows. Hmmm, is Meadows about to flip? Ya think?
www.newsweek.com...
The plot thickens.
edit on 6-8-2022 by Patricio because: grammar, spelling, etc.