There are now Many CONFIRMED Nov 2020 Election Illegalities and Irregularities.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: UpThenDown

I won't click on any mother jones links, I dont need any propaganda thanks

What, and yet you post something from JustTheNews?

Media-Bias-Fact-Check - Just-The-News

But for balance, here:

Media-Bias-Fact-Check - Mother-Jones

Here's a concept: perhaps there are some really biased news sites on both sides of this stuff?

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: nugget1
I would LOVE to see some accountability, but am afraid to get my hopes up too high. Having it actually reported on MSM-although briefly- without an 'Orange Man Bad' spin is encouraging.

I think it's far too late to do anything about the last election, but going forward it could make a big difference for future election integrity....or they'll just find a better way to subvert the process.

Many states began making changes for the 2022 mid-term elections after these election violations and cheatings started coming to light last year.

This is long, but look under each state (Enactments by State) for what's being done, and it's easier to digest: www.ncsl.org...

It's like here in Georgia

one one hand the officials say the election was secure and no irregularities

but since the elections

big changes for voting in Georgia

The most important thing to remember about that is how the Democrats and the media lied and said it would stop minorities from voting. That didn't happen. There is no longer any serious reason to oppose such laws for federal elections. Anyone who claims it will hurt minorities, you can just point them to Georgia. Anyone who still tries to pretend that is blatantly lying. That has been absolutely and completely debunked. The ONLY reason left to oppose it is if you support voter fraud. That is the only possible reason anyone can be against securing federal elections.

Don't you have any legit sources? Why do you always use fake news websites?

a reply to: RazorV66

Numerous People in Todays Democrat Party Suffer from Pants On Fire Syndrome . The Ones who Still Love their Polyester Suits are All 3RD Degree Losers......

a reply to: face23785

Voter suppression but there was the highest turnout ever....hmmm....

7-16-2022

NEW from Pennsylvania

Effective immediately, the state has banned election officials from accepting money from entities like Facebook, George Soros, etc..

Source: thefederalist.com...

a reply to: network dude

China-Obama were smart. They knew that surgical cheating was all that was needed. The operating room was prepared over a 60 day period before 11/3/2020. The actual surgery was carried out at 3am that night in Wisconsin and Michigan. Over a number of days in PA/GA/AZ.

originally posted by: xuenchen
My God if the mass cheating is ever revealed, the whole Damn system falls !!!!!! Way too many "new" Constitutional decisions would have to be court tested !!!!! Recalls !! Reversals of invalidated laws !! Precedents declared struck !! State and Federal certifications rendered fake !!😀

But isn't that EXACTLY what is needed? Shouldn't such criminal actions be punished severely? Certainly the most severe penalties would match the crimes that were committed. These people subverted and corrupted the presumed voting integrity of the people of the USA. A voting system that presumed to promise that everyone has a voice in the government based on their ability to vote out people not fit for the job, and vote in those people most voters believe would be best for the job. What this cheating did was to tell everyone that their vote just does not count. Period. You have been wasting your time and effort in pursuit of what you felt was your right to have a say in who represents you in government.

Arrests, convictions, and even hanging the people who perpetrated this fraud would not be out of line to restore the honor and credibility of those people WE have entrusted with enforcing the rule of law in this country. Their failure to act only makes matters seemingly more corrupted and more subverted, and undermines any credibility that WE THE PEOPLE should have in the judicial branch of our government. For them to turn a blind eye certainly makes them bonafide accessories to those criminal acts perpetrated against every single solitary voter in this country, whether they voted for the person who "won" by cheating, or the one who "lost" by cheating. It is all the same. You have been hoodwinked. You are just puppets on strings marched to the voting booths on election day.

And unless you are totally brain dead, certainly the thought SHOULD have crossed your mind to question every other election in this country as to the validity of the counts that took place.

IMHO.

a reply to: UpThenDown

Bannon knew that Trump couldn't lose unless American had gone full-retard.

Like many of us, Steve Bannon and Donald Trump refused to believe that Americans would choose a big spending dementia patient, because the incumbent sends out "mean Tweets".

To this day, we still do not believe a man who couldn't fill a gymnasium, LEGALLY won the 2020 election.

To the dismay of the Jan 6th committee of loons, Patrick Byrne (former CEO of Overstock) proudly testified last week that he does not believe Joe Biden is the legitimate President to this very day, and has seen nothing to convince him that Americans were stupid enough to elect him President.

Way to go Patrick. Tell is like it is, with no fear and no shame!

Elections have consequences.

Fraudulent Elections give you this!: twitter.com...

originally posted by: carewemust
Friday, July 15, 2022

As investigations into how a man who couldn't fill a gynasium (Joe Biden) won the Presidency continues, the illegally cast ballots and illegal processes that delivered those ballots across GA-WI-MI-PA-AZ are coming to light. States where Joe Biden barely beat President Donald Trump, putting Joe Biden in the White House.

There are (so far) nearly two dozen credible confirmations of wrongdoing, irregularities and illegalities that undercut the claims of bureaucrats, journalists and Democrats that the November 2020 general election was flawless.

Democrats and their allies in the traditional news media have coined the term the "Big Lie" to dismiss anyone who questions the conduct of the 2020 election.

But with each passing day, new irregularities, security vulnerabilities and illegalities are being unmasked by bombshell revelations from courts, legislators, and other investigative bodies, like the FBI and Homeland Security Department.

The latest came last week when the Wisconsin Supreme Court declared that state election regulators had no legal authority to allow voters to cast ballots in mobile drop boxes, a jaw-dropping decision that invalidated the way tens of thousands of voters -- many of them Democrats -- cast their ballots.

Here are a few of the 21 confirmed illegalities or irregularities...

1.) Illegal ballot drop boxes.

2.) A Foreign Intrusion.

3.) The Laptop Lie.

4.) Alleged Bribery.

5.) Illegal ballot harvesting.

6.) 50,000 Arizona ballots called into question.

7.) See Article...

See details of each "issue" and the remainder of the list here: justthenews.com...

The "Big Lie" as Democrats call it, has now been shifted over to them for ownership.

Their statement that there, "were no significant 2020 Election illegalities and irregularities", is now "The Big Lie".

As the various investigations across swing-states (and others) continue, the current list will continue to grow...and be reported here in this thread.

-CareWeMust

I agree that there were strange goings on with all the mail in ballots , but imo not enough to change the outcome of the election.
I voted for Trump the first time as did many , because Hillary is very much hated by most Americans on both sides & having Hillary & Bill back on the throne would have been way worse than what we have now.
Trump had a real outsider feel & many moderate people like myself see Hillary as one of the most vicious gangsters to ever hold public office.

The moderate & undecided are the votes that make or break most Presidential campaigns for office.
Our Country is made up of a 40/40/20 % voting ratio.
40% of registered Democrats will vote for Dracula if he was running & 40% of Republicans would vote for
Ted Bundy if he was running. 80% of voting Americans historically vote straight party lines .
The votes from the moderate/ undecided historically vote just a bit to the right or majority one way based on current events surrounding either side.

Moderates by in large voted for Trump over Hillary & the largest upset happened.. Trump won !!!
Then came Trump for 4 years , all is childish name calling & teenage petty behavior on Twitter.
By the time Trump was up for reelection against Biden , the middle with me included moved away from Trump . Trump was the first big party person I voted for in years . Biden nor Trump got my vote the next time around.
Trump could have really been cool for America had he not started with the $hit hole countries & Mexican Rapers coming to America racist crap . That type of racist stuff & his petty Twitter wars were just the thing the alt-right flocked to . The increasingly fervor that White Boomers were being disenfranchised by liberal Blacks & Gays went full steam ahead .

Then came Biden who has had a very moderate to right leaning stance in Washington for decades & appealed to the moderate undecided of America. The White good ole boys supporting Trump were to far right for the middle just as Hillary had a to far left career for the middle in 2016 to be President.

In think most Trump fans have zero ideas as to how hated Trump is by the middle , and that is what cost Donny the seat in 2020 .. not massive election fraud.

Just like if Biden runs in 2024 , the middle/undecided will vote him down in the millions, because he went to far left since his victory.
Biden for years was like what Manchin is today . Biden crossed lines for Republican ideas many times.
Biden’s crime bill he authored years ago made Republicans jump for joy & imo many many conservatives voted for Joe over Trump thinking they would be getting a Republican light President over the Alt-Right MAGA Q crowd that was chasing Trump around like teen girls after the Beatles.

Accept the fact that Trump lost his re-election by tapping the extreme side just as Biden will lose if he runs in 2024 , because he tapped the lunatic left extremists to push agendas .
Presidents pick myopic polarized VP’s as shields from impeachment from the other side’s attacks .
The problem is that those extreme VP’s bring their lunatics with them .
Mike Pence is a nut bag Evangelical Free Baptist that secured the right & white Christian votes for Trump, but those backwards White Nationalist Evangelicals sank Trump in 2020 .
Just as Harris is Biden’s lunatic Left California shield that brought Biden the militant woke lbgqt , feminist & Black radical votes. Yet it is those Alt-Left nuts who are running the Biden camp .. Biden cares for Blacks & Gays as much as he cares about integrity.. He doesn’t …!
Just like Trump cares about Religious Right wing White people as much as he cares about giving away his money… He does not .
Wake up & realize that Trump & Biden are the same people… they will do anything just as long as they get to be the show pony with 100% of the ticket sales for the Circus .
Mike Pence & his looney Christian Nationalists sank Trump , not voter fraud .
Biden’s worst approval ratings of any President is , because of Heels Up Harris & her merry band of fruitcake extremists.
We cant have extremists on either side dictating 80% of America, and that is what happens in straight party voting.
Us 20% moderates control who becomes President. Not you MAGA hat wearing people or the BLM t-shirt crowds, because you extremists vote one way only even if your candidate is horrible.
Welcome to America & the out of control histogram that you extremists create from both sides.
Every 4 years we will have increasingly radical Presidents with even more radical VPs .
You are not part of the solution, just as a pink haired transgender is not part of the solution.
Thanks for helping to ruin any chance of a decent ruling class in America & that goes the same for the fruits on the left .
In want to have a real open discussion here with you & explain how it was impossible for Biden to beat Trump ? here is a hint .. it was Pence & the Christian Right that sank Donny boy … thats why Trump pressured Pence to blow his horn & summon the Alt-Right Evangelicals to tear down the walls of our Capital imo .
Im not looking to fight with you .. these are my brutality honest opinions from the middle .

originally posted by: network dude
this cannot come to light. It really needs to be stopped here and now before it gets out of hand.

Just think, if it were proven that indeed there was massive fraud in the election of 2020, "the big lie" would be that everything Trump did was correct, even thought it was the wrong way to go about it. The Jan 6th committee would be seen as a joke. (I kid, they already are) Just about everyone in government would look foolish, as most have adopted the idea that "there was no fraud", and all facts to the contrary are ignored.

Rather than hand Trump another win, it's best for the country, and the world, if this just stays hidden away. Plus, that one guy would have to admit to being wrong at the top of his lungs and I don't think he could do it.

Funny sarcasm

But outside of humor, i hope it DOES get overturned and it will…

Nothing will come of this. It's all for show. We were outsmarted last election and if we don't fix it by the next election, we will lose again. Dems now know what they did wrong because we're telling them.

VERY Simple Solution

Paper ballots, ID required, thumb in purple ink, only voting on election day in person.

Period.

So sorry if you can not make it.

But this is all too easy to fix, and how would they ever steal it?

Oh I forgot

TRUMP WON!

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: carewemust

Is there an validiaty to Steve Bannons recent 'hot mic' or is he a known liar?

Steve Bannon touting Trump's plan to declare victory on election night even if he LOST

'What Trump's gonna do is just declare victory, right. He’s gonna declare victory. But that doesn’t mean he’s the winner, he’s just gonna say he’s a winner,' Bannon laughed on the tape.

At 10 or 11 o’clock Trump’s gonna walk in the Oval, tweet out, "I’m the winner. Game over. Suck on that,"' Bannon said. And if Biden was somehow up in the polls late on Tuesday evening, Bannon told his associates that Trump would simply claim election fraud - which he also did in his infamous speech. 'It's going to be even crazier,' Bannon said, with the crowd laughing again. 'Because he's going to sit there and say they stole it.'

it seems both sides were willing to/did bend the rules, ALL politicians are bent, crooked and vile, sorry if you have a favorite but I cant stand ANY of them.

That didn't sound like Obannon to me. Besides even though I am 100% certain the election was stolen, we actually can't say anyone won other than the declared winner. At least as far as officially claiming it so until those states rescind the votes they claimed initially and declare the election Void/Trump wins now matter why either way. The reasons for kicking this thing down the road until 2024 is to keep the official narrative as Biden won. Semantics that are just a word game. The Dems cheat most every major election and probably the RINO's do too. They are making sure the Cabal is supported and not the citizens of the district they supposedly represent.

800,000 votes appearing after the polls closed in PA that happened to push Biden ahead was completely legit. Republicans would never use a drop box, it's so pedestrian.

Well, take it to the Supreme Court.

originally posted by: UpThenDown
a reply to: carewemust

it seems both sides were willing to/did bend the rules, ALL politicians are bent, crooked and vile, sorry if you have a favorite but I cant stand ANY of them.

Yes it does seem like both sides have a problem.

On one side you have Trump willing to declare himself the winner even if he is not the winner.

On the other side you have a Big Tech, Democrats and Establishment Republicans constructing a easily manipulated 2020 voting process that would have never been allowed to stand if not for the exploitation of covid.

Both sides are equally guilty.

a reply to: carewemust

That link of 21 issues with the election forgot a BIG one...

The Secret History of the Shadow Campaign That Saved the 2020 Election
time.com...

The Time article that took a victory lap rubbing honest amaericans noses in how they all worked together to "fortify democracy".

You know, because nothing says democracy like manipulating the system to "protect democracy from itself"...