Mars Australia a bunch of liars.

More than 3 years ago mars Australia offshored the manufacturing of Snickers bars to China.

Mars Australia have said they are upgrading the Ballarat plant for the past 3 years.

And supposedly will bring these back to local production.

Really does it take almost 2 years to upgrade a production line?


www.perthnow.com.au... g-b881887246z.amp


bakingbusiness.com.au...

Also it is sneaky on how they hide the place of manufacture under the seal flap and unless you roll it over you’d have no clue


Same as nobbys’s Salted beer nuts were 100% Australian grown, no longer, another import.

Considering once all nuts were grown in Kingaroy Queensland, quality.

Both are on my boycott list.

a reply to: robsmith

Hershey PA is right next door to me, they started doing the same 💩 years ago. It’s crazy the difference too if I go to Hershey and buy a bar of chocolate there and then buy a bar of chocolate from a gas station 20 miles away in a blindfolded taste test any retard would be able to tell there’s a difference between the two.

Their outsourcing cost 1000s of jobs in my local area too.

a reply to: Brotherman
It’s sad, that makers only see the dollar signs. These overseas Snickers taste terrible.

I live the Hershey’s hot fudge sauce, though it’s pretty hard to find it in Australia at times.

like the United Kingdom made Cadbury’s, tastes better than the Australian made stuff.

Wispa bars are so bloody good.

originally posted by: robsmith
a reply to: Brotherman
It’s sad, that makers only see the dollar signs. These overseas Snickers taste terrible.

I live the Hershey’s hot fudge sauce, though it’s pretty hard to find it in Australia at times.

like the United Kingdom made Cadbury’s, tastes better than the Australian made stuff.

Wispa bars are so bloody good.

You should seek help for your wispa bar addiction. I'd rather see you waste your money on beer and hookers. jus sayin

a reply to: Brotherman

Lol, wine women and song my other 3 favourites.

a reply to: Brotherman

Lol, wine women and song my other 3 favourites.

a reply to: robsmith

Really does it take almost 2 years to upgrade a production line?

Yes, and sometimes more. R&D, studies, engineering, more studies, corporate often moves at a snails pace, and so on. Corporate politics are worse than government politics.

a reply to: Klassified

Yep and the current state of supply chain and production issues worldwide they may be lucky to open in another 3 years. My current job works heavily in automation controls, PLCs, etc and for some of our basic stuff the backlog is almost a year. Something like a production plant of that scale would involve a ton of moving parts and specialized equipment.

Plus like it was already mentioned with the lockdowns for items that need to have engineering drawings etc the people working from home and communicating back and forth is not ideal and prolongs the process.

a reply to: Charliebrowndog
Exactly. Add the internal politics and you have a real clusterf**k.

originally posted by: Brotherman
a reply to: robsmith

Hershey PA is right next door to me, they started doing the same 💩 years ago. It’s crazy the difference too if I go to Hershey and buy a bar of chocolate there and then buy a bar of chocolate from a gas station 20 miles away in a blindfolded taste test any retard would be able to tell there’s a difference between the two.

Their outsourcing cost 1000s of jobs in my local area too.

I've got family in Hershey and have been there several times to visit them. Love the area and considered moving there but just can't leave the South. You're exactly right about the chocolate. When my family comes to visit, I ask them to bring along some chocolate because the taste difference is undeniable.

This shift of chocolate production is just another thing that will ultimately bite us in the @ss.

bugger that, they're making snags at bunnings more expensive !

doomed i tells ya, doomed...

snags increase

All these companies selling out are run by middle class leftists, they see no dangers creating a totalitarian communist superpower until their kids and grandchildren are in treadmills living in a 3rd world they helped create with their greed and unrealistic world views

They honestly think, because they grew up in safe wealthy bubbles, everybody is inherently good on face value, and political ideology or patriotism Doesn’t exist and that once these people have got you in their jaws they’ll continue to be nice

It’s like a mental disorder of the middle class and above, an unrealistic fictions reality

a reply to: jerich0

3.50 for a snag, I am happy to support local fundraising, though I feel it’s a bit of a hike.

I, rather would give a couple of bucks, and fore go the snag.

Though with Bunnings still running their facial recognition and monitoring, wouldn’t be suprised if they have meta data capture devices to gain more of your personal data.

I haven been into a Bunnings store for over six months, and an likely to never visit a store again.

a reply to: robsmith

I'm hearing you Rob.

Snickers used to be my go to chocolate until I found out that they were made in China, I haven't eaten once since I found out 2 years ago. I even asked a mars rep in woolies once when they were going to start making them back in Australia, and even she didn't know that they weren't.

As for the upgrade of their production lines. Yes to me 3 years is a long time. I too work in process control/PLC automation and generally large companies outsource large scale upgrades to external contractors who specialise in the type of equipment they need. They supply the equipment, and installation engineers (and local contractors for the grunt work). Basically its a turn key operation.

Coca cola have their own engineers at their bottling plants in Australia, but you don't see them designing entirely new blow fill lines. They know how to fix, maintain and do improvements, but they leave the big stuff to the specialists in their field.

I can only see the continual delay as money grab for profit. Its obviously cheaper getting them made over there.

originally posted by: robsmith
a reply to: Brotherman
It’s sad, that makers only see the dollar signs. These overseas Snickers taste terrible.

I live the Hershey’s hot fudge sauce, though it’s pretty hard to find it in Australia at times.

like the United Kingdom made Cadbury’s, tastes better than the Australian made stuff.

Wispa bars are so bloody good.

Cadbury's is not really Cadbury's any longer since they were bought out by Kraft or as we call them in the UK the Plastic Cheese Company.

Cadbury's used to be one of the best chocolatiers in Europe after the swiss that is and it was always a matter of taste there but once Kraft bought them out there quality went down significantly and the taste is just not the same, the Chocolate is also significantly softer than it used to be and more oily to my taste probably due to the swapping out of quality ingredient's for lower cost alternatives after Kraft bought them out.

Wispa are great but remember you are paying for a bar of bubbles and there is a lot less chocolate in them than there size AND price would suggest, still the texture makes the chocolate taste better for some daft reason even though it is not as nice as it used to be before Cadbury's were bought out (Before the Cadbury family were backstabbed by the other shareholders I might add as they did not want to sell to Kraft - AKA Mondelez International).

Sadly you will be hard pressed to find REAL English Chocolate any longer even if you live in the UK.

I am far from alone in my opinion about Cadbury's after Kraft bought them out, others say it tastes greasy or oily and far less satisfying for example.

But that is what you get when you let multinational conglomerates buy out traditionalist company's that once refused to compromise on there quality but then suddenly do and all in the interests of distant share holders that never even eat the stuff.

a reply to: jamesthegreat
I have friends who work in manufacturing, and if a full line or a component needs to be replaced or upgraded, the manufacturer would have vonsultants come in months in advance to determine what is needed.

Go away design and manufacture the equipment and on a set date shur the line down for 48 hours or more depending what needs to be done replace old or worn components and re-commission in the shortest time to continue production.

The way mars have done this soeakscthat they have no intention to re start production in Australia.

There are so many forums critical of them, they more or less have stopped updating their Facebook page, which says a lot.

a reply to: LABTECH767

Agreed Mondelez are scum as much as unilever and also nestle.

It’s all about the money,

i been in china for 20 yrs and the most disappointment i've had is the mars bars suck!

i stopped trying to find one.

they stopped adding the caramel layer under the top choc coating.

and they are smaller.

next time i order from amazon, i'll look them up. see if i can get some from the usa.

i can get all kinds of choc here. Godiva is nice but $$$ lots of other choc stores too.

i only eat dark, milk choc is not great for you.

ichi ban stores which closed all their stores use to have bins of candies you mixed and paid by weight.

my fav was milk choc covered brazil nuts!

stuffed marshmallows, awesome. whole candied baby crabs. spicy duck tongues, chicken gizzards.

it was a great chain store.

originally posted by: sarahvital
i been in china for 20 yrs and the most disappointment i've had is the mars bars suck!

i stopped trying to find one.

they stopped adding the caramel layer under the top choc coating.

and they are smaller.

next time i order from amazon, i'll look them up. see if i can get some from the usa.

i can get all kinds of choc here. Godiva is nice but $$$ lots of other choc stores too.

i only eat dark, milk choc is not great for you.

ichi ban stores which closed all their stores use to have bins of candies you mixed and paid by weight.

my fav was milk choc covered brazil nuts!

stuffed marshmallows, awesome. whole candied baby crabs. spicy duck tongues, chicken gizzards.

it was a great chain store.

too late for edit but i meant Milkyway bar!

sorry bout that chief .

a reply to: sarahvital

Good point about the dark Chocolate, it is actually good for you if you don't overdo it though of course the sugar used to sweeten it is not, remember also the cocoa bean's health benefits have been known for a long time by the natives of south America though through greed most of the world's chocolate these days is grown in Africa and very often using child slave labour, little kids that never get to taste a chocolate bar in there lives.

Cocoa is often used as a savoury rather than a sweet ingredient in south America and there are any number of recipes for it's use.

In some ways we have been misusing the ingredient all along.