There is a SOUL NET around Earth designed to stop YOU from leaving the MATRIX after bodily death

originally posted by: jedi_hamster
here's a mental exercise: imagine that you're dreaming, and in your dream someone tells you that what you accept as your whole reality, is just your dream and you're a prisoner in it, and that there's a whole other world, you just have to wake up.

how can one prove it? you would have to experience it yourself, via OOBE or death. there are some workarounds, but things considered to be paranormal in nature are too easily dismissed (you have to have extremely controlled environment in which each experiment is being done, to eliminate the possibility of questioning the reality of the results).

There's that word again, "dismissed".

Assuming things will be dismissed is not a reason to avoid presenting the verifiable things.

Regarding the possibility of us living in a simulation, if some people think we are living in one simulation then it means the simulation was created in a way to make those people think that way. Either that or the simulation is not perfect.

'For those who believe, no proof is necessary.
For those who don't believe, no proof is possible.'
This information is for Souled Humans with an elevated consciousness that can see beyond the programming ie not you.

a reply to: SexySquirrel

So no evidence then?

Just your rantings and a couple of youtube vids?

And you can tell from my words on an internet forum that I have no soul?

You might want to stop with the puppet accounts as well......too obvious mate!

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: jedi_hamster
here's a mental exercise: imagine that you're dreaming, and in your dream someone tells you that what you accept as your whole reality, is just your dream and you're a prisoner in it, and that there's a whole other world, you just have to wake up.

how can one prove it? you would have to experience it yourself, via OOBE or death. there are some workarounds, but things considered to be paranormal in nature are too easily dismissed (you have to have extremely controlled environment in which each experiment is being done, to eliminate the possibility of questioning the reality of the results).

There's that word again, "dismissed".

Assuming things will be dismissed is not a reason to avoid presenting the verifiable things.

Regarding the possibility of us living in a simulation, if some people think we are living in one simulation then it means the simulation was created in a way to make those people think that way. Either that or the simulation is not perfect.

lack of verifiable things is not a reason to dismiss something.

as for simulation, it doesn't have to make people think that way. it may just allow it. or, as you say, maybe it's not perfect. what difference does it make, if it's a simulation either way?

originally posted by: starlahazelnut
a reply to: SexySquirrel

I have been looking into alternative stuff for awhile. I had read a bit of David Icke, I still listen to Alex Jones here and there. I found out abput Reptillians since my 20's, I have come across old Alex Collier videos, back when it was on youtube about the reptillians, and it was mind opening. I watched his videos over and over and just trying to understand what was going. It's interesting to truly wake up. It's also scary and then your little world comes crashing down and evrrything you once believed in was a complete lie. I am used to it now, but a lot of people would probably go insane or who knows what would.

I also think some people are not really meant to wake up or they are not ready. They don't want to because they don't want to shatter their illusion of what they think reality is. Does this make sense??

It makes perfect sense and that's exactly what it is.

David Icke is a living legend. He's responsible for waking up more people than anyone else in history. He's the reason I woke up to the true nature of reality.

the guy who invented scient0l0gy was a sci fi writer. he most likely studied ancient myths and religions.

he probably stumbled upon this concept.

all i know from scient0l0gy is what i see in the tv or movies.
and it seems they charge people to do stuff.
which sort of stinks.

if i had super knowledge, i would have ZERO problem teaching this to anyone for free.

so hubb0rd might have thought, quick way to get rich, ill steal this concept.
hubb0rd might have thought, here is the way to escape eaarth, quick way to get rich, to teach people how to do it.
or hubb0rd might have thought, its all a skam, quick way to get rich.

one AWESOME concept.
get in a space ship, an actual one, fly a one way mission. dye outside the f0rce field. wham, freeedom.

i went to DC when i was a kid, and i saw the moon mission space ships. i said to the tour guide, no way these went to the moon.

if it was real, then simple, use these EXACT SAME space ships to go back.

guess what? there are hundreds if not thousands of model t's still driving around today. if you need to go from point a to point b, they work still.

those moon space ships? they all claimed to work.
rebuild them, exact same specs, and fly to the moon then.

a reply to: SexySquirrel

David Icke is a living legend. He's responsible for waking up more people than anyone else in history. He's the reason I woke up to the true nature of reality.

That explains everything.

David Icke is a failed Coventry goalkeeper that to most people is a laughing stock here in the UK.

The guy isn't even a legend in his own lunch time.

Anyone demanding proof can watch the video and read the sources/links in the video description. If you have good-faith questions after reviewing the sources provided I will be happy to answer them.

Ultimately though, I'm not here to convince anyone of anything.

I'm simply here to disseminate information. That's it. You can take it or leave it.

"The truth is still the truth even in a minority of one."

This is all made up stuff. Entertaining though and good material for a video game or something. If you want to know about real simulation theory from a physicist who has been contracted by Nasa multiple times and who has actually been to the other side thousands of times, look up Tom Campbell. There is no silly soul net made by parasites to keep us cooped in like chickens.

a reply to: XipeTotex

As soon as you provide evidence that a mainstream archaeologist named Sergio Gomez has found "large quantities" of liquid mercury under the pyramids of Teotihuacan.

I have made no such claim, why would i do that?

See? This works both ways. Mainstream mumbo jumbo nonsense with zero evidence.

I think you may wish to research how the burden of proof works around these here parts, you make a claim then the onus is on you to provide facts and links that support your nonsense.

Ps, Good luck finding pictures of even a single drop of liquid mercury from a dig site... ANY dig site.

What a bunch of Disney humbug.

Im afraid you will be doing your own homework son pseudoscientific or otherwise. LoL

As to your daft "Disney humbug" comments, i don't think anyone gives a Donald Duck.

a reply to: SexySquirrel

Anyone demanding proof can watch the video and read the sources/links in the video description. If you have good-faith questions after reviewing the sources provided I will be happy to answer them.

You may wish to go read the TnC and understand what is required of you burden of proof wise.

If you make claims you are supposed to provide evidence that backs up your claim, else your credibility goes right out the window.

And if pseudoscientific YouTube video is all you are willing to provide, well that speaks volumes.

How's that for some truth.

a reply to: andy06shake
Can you quote and post the terms and conditions you are referring to please?

You may wish to go read the TnC and understand what is required of you burden of proof wise.

If you make claims you are supposed to provide evidence that backs up your claim, else your credibility goes right out the window.

This is what I found:

The Skunk Works Forum Rules

As mentioned, this forum is for your most outlandish and extreme speculative conspiracy theory ideas. The intent is for like-minded members to engage in collaborative discussions about these theories in an environment that embraces and encourages extreme thought.

However, we will be strict in managing the tone and style of such exchanges. Please keep your critical involvement to helpful focus on issues, facts, and analysis of possibilities, and do not engage in disruptive character attacks, snipes, and insults in any way. Any such activity will result in a warning and removal of your post.

While it's very important that ATS maintain it's reputation as a place where logic, critical analysis and even skeptical thought are applied to popular conspiracy theories, it's also important to embrace the ability to incubate new ideas and theories. The Skunk Works Forum is this incubator for your theories and ideas.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: Itisnowagain

I suppose it depends on the forum as to the rules.

I forgot we were in the "Skunk Works Forum" to be honest. LoL

Don't say much regarding the "burden of proof" or anything at all really.

Nonetheless, if people are going to suggest nonsense like soul nets around our Earth designed to trap us for all eternity, then others are going to require proof of such which extends to a bit more than YouTube videos and pseudoscience.

Incubating new ideas and theories is one thing, but this is just a rehash of Scientology with some Gnostic connotations thrown in for good measure far as i can establish.

Nonetheless, if people are going to suggest nonsense like soul nets around our Earth designed to trap us for all eternity, then others are going to require proof of such which extends to a bit more than YouTube videos and pseudoscience.

Read the rules:

The intent is for like-minded members to engage in collaborative discussions about these theories in an environment that embraces and encourages extreme thought.

I think you are in a forum that's really not for you...... according to t&c.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Could be right.

But by hook or by crook i seem to have landed here.

Like i suggest through people require facts and evidence to back up the claims they make.

Else you can simply say whatever you please and expect others to entertain all sorts of endless nonsense.

If that's the colour of the day or rule of thumb one can only imagine what kind of garden path we are headed along or where it ends.

a reply to: andy06shake
Take it up with whoever wrote the forum rules.

Where are the t&cs you mentioned....do you have a link?

You may wish to go read the TnC and understand what is required of you burden of proof wise.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Take it up with whoever wrote the forum rules.

Where are the t&cs you mentioned....do you have a link?

Im in a park Itisnowagain, same as i am most other Saturday afternoons when the Suns shining, so certainly not at hand.

Do you understand how the burden of proof works?

"It's a party's duty to produce sufficient evidence to support an allegation or argument."

Without such a system in place, people can simply claim whatever they please and expect to be entertained.

Some such as yourself my find that kind of environment handy or convenient, but others will see it for what it is, that being ramblings of hyperbole and nonsense.

The rule is if you talk crap around these here parts others are apt to know the reason why, and that's everywhere and anywhere not just in this forum, as far as i can establish.

a reply to: andy06shake

The rule is if you talk crap around these here parts others are apt to know the reason why, and that's everywhere and anywhere not just in this forum, as far as i can establish.

What is the reason why, in your opinion?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

What is the reason as to why people talk crap?

I imagine there is a multitude of reasons ranging from, but not limited to, attention-seeking, insecurity, lack of intelligence or knowledge, or just being plain wrong on a subject.

It's rather an expansive question i suppose.

Edit: I forgot, and also my favorite answer would have to be, that they are trying to sell you something.

So personal gain.

originally posted by: jedi_hamster
lack of verifiable things is not a reason to dismiss something.

I never said it is, in fact, I said the opposite.
I'm not the one assuming people with a different opinion dismiss things.

as for simulation, it doesn't have to make people think that way. it may just allow it. or, as you say, maybe it's not perfect. what difference does it make, if it's a simulation either way?

It doesn't, and that's my point: we cannot really know if we are in a simulation that allows us to think we are in a simulation or if we are in a simulation that was made to make us think we are in a simulation or if we are in a real world where we are allowed to think (wrongly) that we are in a simulation.

originally posted by: SexySquirrel
Anyone demanding proof can watch the video and read the sources/links in the video description. If you have good-faith questions after reviewing the sources provided I will be happy to answer them.

Ultimately though, I'm not here to convince anyone of anything.

I'm simply here to disseminate information. That's it. You can take it or leave it.

I don't have the time for that, so I suppose I will leave

"The truth is still the truth even in a minority of one."

True.