Did Someone Say Food Shortage?

originally posted by: PapagiorgioCZ
The €1300 per chicken sounds like BS. I dont believe it.

As far as I understood it, it's not €, it's $, that post was about the situation in the US, not in the Netherlands.

originally posted by: Asktheanimals
a reply to: JAGStorm
You are correct.
I should have said Western rather than modern.
Of course many in the 3rd world know hunger every day.

It's about making everyone equal.

Of course, it's too hard to make everyone equally first world, so we make everyone equally third world. Most of the world starves to death, and the elites keep a select group of serfs around.

originally posted by: ketsuko
The Netherlands is putting its own farmers out of work.

You read that right. As part of a climate change agreement via the WEF and EU, the government of the Netherlands has imposed strict carbon and nitrogen limits on its own farmers. It will put many out of work.

The farmers have been protesting and becoming more and more ungovernable for days now, but you haven't heard anything about it in the news, and you won't. It doesn't fit the agenda.

5 When the Lamb opened the third seal, I heard the third living creature say, “Come!” I looked, and there before me was a black horse! Its rider was holding a pair of scales in his hand. 6 Then I heard what sounded like a voice among the four living creatures, saying, “Two pounds[a] of wheat for a day’s wages, and six pounds[c] of barley for a day’s wages,[d] and do not damage the oil and the wine!”

Rev 6: 5-6

This is the verse for the third seal and the black rider, often interpreted as famine. Some feel it says that the common people will suffer as their food gets more and more expensive and scarce while the wealthy will not be harmed at all, oil and wine being luxury or wealthy goods.

And here we see something like it in action. The WEF and EU are actually imposing more food restrictions by creating rules that cut the food supply by putting farmers out of work in a time of already acknowledged scarcity.

You won’t see it on any of the alphabet networks, but a protest movement is exploding in the Netherlands after the government moved to shut down farms in order to “fight” climate change. The contentious move, pushed by the World Economic Forum, was enacted as part of an EU agreement that seeks to limit the release of nitrogen.

Farmers are generally acting like BLM over this, and I am generally conflicted. Their rising anger probably has to do with their own government's response:

The Dutch government said “The honest message... is that not all farmers can continue their business,”.

Basically, learn to code.

So the lesson that should be learned is that the elites have their vision and we don't figure into it.

Shut down coal and other power plants and get blackouts. Learn to code.

Shut down the farmers and starve. Learn to code.

Of all the aspects of the green agenda, none is more damaging and suicidal than putting in arbitrary provisions that limit the production of food across the globe. I’m not in support of targeting anything to “lower emissions” because I believe it’s spitting into the wind to make wealthy elites feel better about their lifestyles. Yet, even if I did support that agenda, the last place that should be targeted is the food sector. While European leaders are virtue signaling about the temperature possibly rising a few degrees over the next hundred years, they should be concerned about feeding their populations before their countries descend into apocalyptic chaos.

You want to know why your food costs so much and there isn't enough? It's stuff like this. It's not an accident; it's by design, and if you vote left, this is on your shoulders.

The situation is not cool globally, but why all the bible eschatology garbage.
If there were end times it surely was 1914-1945 . Great Depression , dust bowl , Spanish flu , ww1 & ww2 .
You end time doomers are just too much .
It is your narcissistic views that God will return in YOUR time of sorrow.
We are far far far from turmoil on Earth in 2022 compared to just 100 years ago … grow up ok

a reply to: MeatHookReality

Then ignore it. No one says you have to believe, but neither does anyone say you have to comment.

Of course, in order for the End of Days to be the End of Days, it has conclude, and clearly, it did not during WWII, so that was not the End of Days.

However, we are talking conspiracy. The grandest conspiracy of all is the idea that people at the top are working hard to bring the entire world under their select thumb - the New World Order. Such a thing would be a very specific fulfillment of prophecy, and it is no benevolent thing. Where humans are concerned, there is no possible benevolent dictatorship or even oligarchy. Ergo, we're talking an evil thing that is not good for more than a very small minority at the very top.

And when we talk about eschatology, you should realize that there is certain school of thought that holds that those working to bring in the NWO are doing so through attempting to counterfeit Biblical prophecy simply because of its power to control the masses. If they can convince us that their figurehead *is* Christ reborn, then they hold power through that. The movie "The Book of Eli" explains and explores that concept of the power of faith and religion very well.

So you don't even have to think this is a religious thing and actually a supernatural fulfillment in order to see the potential pattern at work to create famine on a global scale artificially for the purposes of forcing a fulfillment for the purposes of control.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MeatHookReality

Then ignore it. No one says you have to believe, but neither does anyone say you have to comment.

Of course, in order for the End of Days to be the End of Days, it has conclude, and clearly, it did not during WWII, so that was not the End of Days.

However, we are talking conspiracy. The grandest conspiracy of all is the idea that people at the top are working hard to bring the entire world under their select thumb - the New World Order. Such a thing would be a very specific fulfillment of prophecy, and it is no benevolent thing. Where humans are concerned, there is no possible benevolent dictatorship or even oligarchy. Ergo, we're talking an evil thing that is not good for more than a very small minority at the very top.

And when we talk about eschatology, you should realize that there is certain school of thought that holds that those working to bring in the NWO are doing so through attempting to counterfeit Biblical prophecy simply because of its power to control the masses. If they can convince us that their figurehead *is* Christ reborn, then they hold power through that. The movie "The Book of Eli" explains and explores that concept of the power of faith and religion very well.

So you don't even have to think this is a religious thing and actually a supernatural fulfillment in order to see the potential pattern at work to create famine on a global scale artificially for the purposes of forcing a fulfillment for the purposes of control.

First off , you are posting on a public forum & because you don’t like my response to your post , you resort to “ no one said you have to comment “ ?

If you start a field on fire & someone is yelling at you for it , do you tell them that no one said they should put the fire out ?
Rome & the Catholic Church were the original NWO & the church continued up until the 1990s to have an iron grip on much of the worlds thought & governance.
I believe that the world is now less involved in mass control by just a few & technology has allowed that freedom in truth.
Yet the very technologically that frees also enslaves.
People self surveil themselves by user agreements to apps & social media everyday.
No one is forcing people in the west to log into social media platforms, tell everyone their doings, whereabouts , ideas , politics & family life .
All those things are done willingly by people & the surveillance State knows that people have huge digital egos & will give up freedoms to satiate their ego’s.
The world is less likely to fall under oppressive rule such as Rome & the Catholics had for 100s & 100s of years over many countries.
The next paradigm shift will be wanted & accepted by people through increasing rights loss by one user agreement at a time .

"You will eat nothing and be hungry."

a reply to: DBCowboy

"The people have no bread "

"Then let them eat the cake (burnt crumb left in the oven after baking) " ...................

a reply to: BlackArrow

Why would you call me troll for not willing to read through 140 page bills
to find out if the $1500 tax on one chicken is real? Call me lazy but give me a good link.
How could this be a federal tax accepted by the states? I still dont believe it's a thing.

A thought here. A property tax is considered a direct tax. Direct taxes are reserved for the states. Therefore wouldn't a per head tax on livestock be a direct tax and then be unconstitutional?

Article 1 section 9 paragraph 4.
No Capitation, or other direct, Tax shall be laid, unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken.

So shouldn't the taxes in question be void unless taxed in proportion to all citizens of a state then?

a reply to: MeatHookReality

A problem to consider here, the John 2 prophecy.

19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21But he spake of the temple of his body.

There's a major problem here. Jesus Christ is the Lord. Therefore this as a prophecy may have dual meanings. Especially in light of 2nd Peter 3-8.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Those days are also talking about a 3000 year time period. So what happens in the distant future per Revelation 21?

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Indirectly Jesus Christ predicted how long until New Jerusalem descends to earth. 3000 years. So. Take off a thousand years for the reign of the saints and then you have the end of the Apocalypse/start of the reign of the saints. 2000 years after his death.

April of 2033 according to the internet.

So this food shortage C*** was predicted in the bible.

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: MeatHookReality

A problem to consider here, the John 2 prophecy.

19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21But he spake of the temple of his body.

There's a major problem here. Jesus Christ is the Lord. Therefore this as a prophecy may have dual meanings. Especially in light of 2nd Peter 3-8.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Those days are also talking about a 3000 year time period. So what happens in the distant future per Revelation 21?

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Indirectly Jesus Christ predicted how long until New Jerusalem descends to earth. 3000 years. So. Take off a thousand years for the reign of the saints and then you have the end of the Apocalypse/start of the reign of the saints. 2000 years after his death.

April of 2033 according to the internet.

So this food shortage C*** was predicted in the bible.

Jesus will find you in your doom porn bunker & be very displeased with you .
How are you even an adult & believe such nonsense ?

I think the time to start worrying is when we start getting reports of disease spreading through livestock.

Oh wait, just like this

Foot and mouth disease edges closer - Livestock outbreak in Bali

Race to stop deadly mite Bee hives destroyed

a reply to: MeatHookReality

Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

2 Peter 3: 3-7

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MeatHookReality

Above all, you must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. 4 They will say, “Where is this ‘coming’ he promised? Ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.” 5 But they deliberately forget that long ago by God’s word the heavens came into being and the earth was formed out of water and by water. 6 By these waters also the world of that time was deluged and destroyed. 7 By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

2 Peter 3: 3-7

Im a follower of Christ , but from a hermetic side .
Eschatology is foolish & serves no benefits to your walk back to God .
I mean no ill will , just tire of end times evangelism.
I was Eastern Orothodox for many years … Ive been away from religion, but not Christ or knowledge gained in my works … which transforms beginning faith into confidence.

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: incoserv

I learned to code, but when I do it, they call it conspiracy theory.

When they made me an Engineering Programmer back in 1988, it was called
[Maximizing Our Revenue] or MOR. Usually just for us because they got a C+
guy for 66% off and I kept the other hats. I even got my hands dirty with gage
audits in the afternoon... as if nothing ever happened. Lucky pants for 20 - Life.
Now I know why 54% of all handgun deaths are suicides.

a reply to: ketsuko

We (the US) need to immediately cease all food exports to nations who restrict their own food production.

originally posted by: MeatHookReality

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: MeatHookReality

A problem to consider here, the John 2 prophecy.

19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21But he spake of the temple of his body.

There's a major problem here. Jesus Christ is the Lord. Therefore this as a prophecy may have dual meanings. Especially in light of 2nd Peter 3-8.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Those days are also talking about a 3000 year time period. So what happens in the distant future per Revelation 21?

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Indirectly Jesus Christ predicted how long until New Jerusalem descends to earth. 3000 years. So. Take off a thousand years for the reign of the saints and then you have the end of the Apocalypse/start of the reign of the saints. 2000 years after his death.

April of 2033 according to the internet.

So this food shortage C*** was predicted in the bible.

Jesus will find you in your doom porn bunker & be very displeased with you .
How are you even an adult & believe such nonsense ?

I'll tell you. I experienced this.

Acts 2
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Apocalyptic visions and stigmata. So I needed to know.

a reply to: ketsuko

I am in the Netherlands and this is much much bigger than they portray in the media. I also doubt that much of this is shown in U.S media or anywhere else. It is turning violent now which is much needed now and before all the know-it-all-virtue barfing white knights come out to denounce violence, these people are literally fighting for everyone's survival.

After this apex china will invade tawain and all the progressives and progressive media will turn their attention to that and away form issues like this. Supporting the current thing.









The freedom convoy has nothing on this and this is a country with a population of just 18 million people.
Dont forget though. This country dies a lot of farming and just like building dame a world expect in it and produces boat loads. If this falls the rest will fall.

originally posted by: ntech

originally posted by: MeatHookReality

originally posted by: ntech
a reply to: MeatHookReality

A problem to consider here, the John 2 prophecy.

19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21But he spake of the temple of his body.

There's a major problem here. Jesus Christ is the Lord. Therefore this as a prophecy may have dual meanings. Especially in light of 2nd Peter 3-8.

But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Those days are also talking about a 3000 year time period. So what happens in the distant future per Revelation 21?

And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
22And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.
23And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.

Indirectly Jesus Christ predicted how long until New Jerusalem descends to earth. 3000 years. So. Take off a thousand years for the reign of the saints and then you have the end of the Apocalypse/start of the reign of the saints. 2000 years after his death.

April of 2033 according to the internet.

So this food shortage C*** was predicted in the bible.

Jesus will find you in your doom porn bunker & be very displeased with you .
How are you even an adult & believe such nonsense ?

I'll tell you. I experienced this.

Acts 2
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

Apocalyptic visions and stigmata. So I needed to know.

Ok cool for you . God returning , destroying non believers, fire & judgment is all blood debt garbage.. why do you Christians need justice & vengeance in god ?
God never left us & waiting for Jesus to return & raise hell is just silly .. man made control of a blood debt god of the Old Testament imo .

a reply to: ketsuko

The WEF and EU are actually imposing more food restrictions by creating rules that cut the food supply by putting farmers out of work in a time of already acknowledged scarcity.

Mass starvation is the standard operating procedure for commies.

Mao's Great leap Forward part deux.

And Wef Oligarchs aren't going to give up their gourmet food just like they still haven't given up their private jets.

We cant be so helpless. It's ridiculous. Someone has to try and prosecute them for some kind of treason, international conspiracy, having conflict of interest like being invested in the climate business and plant based fake meat. The judges may be sane and willing to do something. This isnt just politics