OBL & Bush are both Illuminati agents

Well, here goes my own conspiracy theory on secrets surrounding the current events.

I believe that Bush may be an agent provocateur of the Illuminati. His goal is to act as a conservative person, take control of the conservative and religious people and to radicalize them. By doing this, he will deliberately create a military and economical catastrophe that will be blamed on religion and religious people and as a result public in general will hate religion. OBL has exactly the same mission, but on the Islamic side. Already some secularist and atheist circles started the "religion is evil" campaign both in the West and in the Islamic world and they cite the current problems as a proof for their arguments.

Existence of Illuminati and their influence on some of the leaders of world is undeniable. One of Illuminati's main objectives is to "free the manking from the bounds of religion". By doing this, they dream to create a godless society that can easily manipulated by so-called scientific truth which is a relative term that is easy to manipulate. In short, they want to manipulate the mankind as if they manipulate the stock exchange. This is simply another definition of "enslaving humanity".

No actually Bin Laden is just a scape goat


"The US has many enemies, they blame me for attacking them each time one of there many enemies strike at them"

Usama Bin Laden

Originally posted by outlier
Well, here goes my own conspiracy theory on secrets surrounding the current events.

I believe that Bush may be an agent provocateur of the Illuminati. His goal is to act as a conservative person, take control of the conservative and religious people and to radicalize them. By doing this, he will deliberately create a military and economical catastrophe that will be blamed on religion and religious people and as a result public in general will hate religion. OBL has exactly the same mission, but on the Islamic side. Already some secularist and atheist circles started the "religion is evil" campaign both in the West and in the Islamic world and they cite the current problems as a proof for their arguments.

Existence of Illuminati and their influence on some of the leaders of world is undeniable. One of Illuminati's main objectives is to "free the manking from the bounds of religion". By doing this, they dream to create a godless society that can easily manipulated by so-called scientific truth which is a relative term that is easy to manipulate. In short, they want to manipulate the mankind as if they manipulate the stock exchange. This is simply another definition of "enslaving humanity".

IMHO religion is just a tool of power, opium for the people which has enslaved mankind since the first century.
What the illuminatis real goal is im not yet sure.....

Originally posted by outlier
Existence of Illuminati and their influence on some of the leaders of world is undeniable. One of Illuminati's main objectives is to "free the manking from the bounds of religion". By doing this, they dream to create a godless society that can easily manipulated by so-called scientific truth which is a relative term that is easy to manipulate. In short, they want to manipulate the mankind as if they manipulate the stock exchange. This is simply another definition of "enslaving humanity".

How can you say that existance of the Illuminati is undeniable? Do you have undeniable proof?

Also, why do you think they want to enslave humanity? What would be the point of this?

I've got to second what sebatkerk said. I've yet to see anything resembling proof regarding the so-called Illuminati in today's world and their desire to take over the world.

I have however, seen quite bit regarding the real Illuminati, which were an irregular Masonic lodge in Germany that was demonized and destroyed by the power-elite of Europe quite some time ago. I think the most ironic thing regarding the Illuminati is that they were actually destroyed by the rich and powerful because they proved a threat to them with their then-radical ideas of equality.

I believe both Bush and UBL have their own individual goals regarding the world at large, and their goals are quite different. I believe that both men are evil, and are power hungry but I seriously doubt that they are working together. Their goals are totally incompatible.

As for the "enslavement of humanity" where does this come from? The world has become much much more free in the last 20 years. Representitive Republics, Democratic Socialisms and Democracy have made leaps and bounds. If anything we are moving away from enslavement with speed.

I also don't see the anti-religious bent, at least not in America. As we see in the news, the Religious Right is stronger than ever, which I am very much less than happy about, but also liberal and moderate religions are making a strong showing too. If there really was an anti-religious NWO out there do you think that the media (that they supposedly control) would be having round the clock coverage of the pope's death? And the cover stories in news magazines such as Time have been quite religious over the past few years.

I'm sorry man, but I really just don't see your agrument at all here. Throw us some evidence, then well have something to really debate.

~Astral

[edit on 4/3/2005 by The Astral City]

Originally posted by outlier
Well, here goes my own conspiracy theory on secrets surrounding the current events.

I believe that Bush may be an agent provocateur of the Illuminati. His goal is to act as a conservative person, take control of the conservative and religious people and to radicalize them. By doing this, he will deliberately create a military and economical catastrophe that will be blamed on religion and religious people and as a result public in general will hate religion. OBL has exactly the same mission, but on the Islamic side. Already some secularist and atheist circles started the "religion is evil" campaign both in the West and in the Islamic world and they cite the current problems as a proof for their arguments.

Existence of Illuminati and their influence on some of the leaders of world is undeniable. One of Illuminati's main objectives is to "free the manking from the bounds of religion". By doing this, they dream to create a godless society that can easily manipulated by so-called scientific truth which is a relative term that is easy to manipulate. In short, they want to manipulate the mankind as if they manipulate the stock exchange. This is simply another definition of "enslaving humanity".

First, what proof of this do you have? Second, no matter how many wars religion creates people will never abandon it, history has taught us that.