How did Hollywood go unholy woke?

Kinda feel like preaching to the converted, Anyway, we are all trying to find some causality for why things are just getting weirder.

Some statistics put most kids see about 10K killings just on tv by the time they are 18. Some more, some less, its a lot. Its usually does not show the blood and gore that comes with untimely death, A few events and videos do. With death one of the few things we can count on in this world, there is a big struggle going on in coming to terms with it.

While the capability to make a video is cheep as chips these days, it was not always that way. A lot of research, funding and distribution has helped it get to this stage. A lot of big government funding and oversight have been at the forefront in the public discourse.

I have been an actor in a few plays, it does leave a mark in taking on these personalities. Some more than others, for sure. Hollywood has gone through a lot of historical events. When comparing the old and new testament, this planet has been a mess for a while, gradually getting better. Still some room for improvement.

So to get to the point of this thread, Does exploring the history of mankind leave one a bit bent? Long history of savage behavior as war decides the winner.

The one post by Q that showed a turn of the tide was when about 30-50 Hollywood names where named. This was quickly scrubbed off the internet as any snuff movie is, but for a week or two it expanded some head scratching as to what is going on. If Q wants to keep playing, then finding the true target in this psychological war is tough. This battle is not against a few individuals, but a culture.

As with any war, many thousands on both sides. Hollywood is just the media arm of the umbrella corporation hell bent on mass depopulation. Is nothing new as these motivations fill the history books. For those that dive into the history books, lot of ghosts there.

Maybe some of the usual human failings has helped Hollywood fall into the hole it is in. It has done a lot of good work, but at what cost for those involved?

Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963.

Goals 20 -26.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. 25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963.

Goals 20 -26.

20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book-review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all forms of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings, substitute shapeless, awkward and meaningless forms."
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. "Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art."
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press. 25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Every American alive needs to see this , just unreal , it's right there black-on-white

It is very effective to introduce propaganda through entertainment.
This is done routinely, it is part of the psych war on the viewer.

Weaponizing entertainment.

For the past century, the Department of Defense’s Entertainment Media Office has provided Hollywood with equipment, personnel and technical expertise at taxpayer expense. In exchange, the military industrial complex has gotten a starring role in such blockbusters as Top Gun and its rebooted sequel Top Gun: Maverick, which translates to free advertising for the war hawks, recruitment of foot soldiers for the military empire, patriotic fervor by the taxpayers who have to foot the bill for the nation’s endless wars, and Hollywood visionaries working to churn out dystopian thrillers that make the war machine appear relevant, heroic and necessary.

As Elmer Davis, a CBS broadcaster who was appointed the head of the Office of War Information, observed, “The easiest way to inject a propaganda idea into most people’s minds is to let it go through the medium of an entertainment picture when they do not realize that they are being propagandized.”

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This is a perfect example why our government top to bottom does not advocate for teaching history objectively and honestly. If they did then more people, not all, not most, but maybe enough would come to realize that one of the most influential men in modern history has been vastly overlooked and underrated with what he taught in regards to the power the media truly has. That is the one and only Dr. Josef Goebbeles. Here are some simple quotes from him that people clearly did not read and understand in history class:

“...the rank and file are usually much more primitive than we imagine. Propaganda must therefore always be essentially simple and repetitious.”

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly - it must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over.”

“It would not be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition and a psychological understanding of the people concerned that a square is in fact a circle. They are mere words, and words can be molded until they clothe ideas and disguise.”

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”

“Propaganda works best when those who are being manipulated are confident they are acting on their own free will.”

“Everything is what you make of it, even yourself.”

To me the biggest winner of WWII is clearly Goebbeles and his ideas. They are now literally a part of our everyday lives. Propaganda right in our face laughing at us. He is 100% correct the rank and file who think themselves brilliant are nothing more than lemmings who have been told they're brilliant their whole lives.

We're a disgrace and a shame to history.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Thank you for that, what’s happening today is the result of letting our guard down. We knew the dangers in the past and allowed this to happen. I only hope it’s not too late for the America that I love.

This will be a pretty sad Fourth of July for those of us that are not living in denial I think.

Hollywood has always been "unholy," the woke part was just an inevitable next step.

originally posted by: dleeb


We're a disgrace and a shame to history.

I wish that I could dispute these words, but I can’t. So many lives lost to defend against this, all for nothing. I am ashamed of what we have become.

Walt Disney was the last bastion of decency in Hollywood. When he left the scene, things went downhill at Mach five.

a reply to: kwakakev
This woke agenda didn't happen overnight. Some Conservatives, "not RINOs" and liberals are slow on picking it or understanding why or how it happened.

The Infiltration took years.

a reply to: nugget1

Walt Disney was a brave person back in the early days of Disney to make those cartoons that most on the far left today would view or find it problematic if not offensive.

You know who it was that saved Disney, Walt Disney and his company from collapsing during WW2 and the economic crisis that they had?

the US army/US gov gave Disney millions to produce propaganda short films, movies, Cartoons agaisnt Nazis.

a reply to: nugget1

There was an interesting dark movie that Disney once produced called Dragonslayer.

Actually, Hollywood is NOT that woke. They are liberal to moderate granted on sex themes and liberalized social issues but in fact, the Military-Industrial Complex has practically ruled Hollywood since its inception in terms of propaganda about the military and related patriotic issues.

And no woke philosophy would defend the utter violence of Hollywood's output. So IMO the term Woke doesn't apply to Hollywood. Maybe somewhat in terms of some social issues.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: nugget1

There was an interesting dark movie that Disney once produced called Dragonslayer.

Yes, they did- in 1986. Walt died in 1967, bringing about a complete change in his morality standards.

My original comment stands. When Walt died, so did any moral integrity he gave his productions.

Simple. Woke ideology is a distraction for diddling kids.
Hollywood likes to diddle kids.
Therefore it is in their best interest to *insert thing here* to tow the line, so that nobody finds out they diddle kids.

Also propaganda.

a reply to: vNex92

What’s darker is that the boy wizard is the weird guy in Ghostbuster 2 possessed by Vigo the Carpathian.

originally posted by: vNex92
a reply to: nugget1

Walt Disney was a brave person back in the early days of Disney to make those cartoons that most on the far left today would view or find it problematic if not offensive.

You know who it was that saved Disney, Walt Disney and his company from collapsing during WW2 and the economic crisis that they had?

the US army/US gov gave Disney millions to produce propaganda short films, movies, Cartoons agaisnt Nazis.

Oddly enough, the entry of the United States into World War II in 1941 helped rescue Disney’s company from financial ruin. The day after Pearl Harbor, Walt Disney allowed the U.S. Army to “invade” his Burbank, California studios, making it the only Hollywood studio to ever be occupied by the military. Half of the studio functioned as anti-aircraft protection for a nearby Lockheed aircraft plant for the next eight months.
Walt Disney’s first government contract, executed right after Pearl Harbor, was with the U.S. Navy. The studio was asked to create twenty war-related animated shorts for a total cost of $90,000. At $4,500 per short, that was more money than Disney typically made for a short film. Naturally, the animation for which Disney Studios was so renowned became the centerpiece of government-funded training films and educational shorts.

Was he producing 'propaganda' or being patriotic? I guess it depends on what country you're judging form. He stood on the American side of the war, and did what he could for the war effort. Should he have refused payment for his work and let his company go under? I guess some would think so. lol

Irregardless, the abrupt change in moral standards in the movie industry happened right after his death.

[historyofyesterday.com...]

Some folks talking about Disney .
Here's a humorous true story .
Disney tried for years to get at least a PG rating on just one movie .
They went as far as to send a porn movie in a cartoon box to the Rating Association .
The Rating Association sent it back , unopened , with a G rating as it had the Disney name on the box .
They finally made it by including the word "damn" (one time) in their Black Hole movie .

Believe it , or not .

That's what I've always asked but got ridiculed or ignored. Hollywood went dark in the 00s when they went totally gross. From about the middle part of Harry Potter Hollywood went Hollyweird and never looked back at the rear view mirror!

They focused too much on gross monsters instead of the actual story and scenery and then went from that to comic books for a while just shoving one after another till we were blue in the face and now doing wokeness and comic book crap.